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OOC and Interest Uiric War of Independence (1963-1975|Open)

Postby Uiri » Sun May 31, 2009 9:03 am

OOC: Well, here's a brief overview of the history of my nation up until the point of this proposed war.

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The Uiric Archipelago was uninhabited until the Portuguese found it in 1472. As a way point in between Portugal and future colonies, it was populated well and treated better than Portugal's other colonies. It was happy this way until the Estado Novo, a dictatorship regime in Portugal which ruled from 1926 up until 1974. In the late '50s the literate population of Uiri was well aware that colonial empires were letting go of their colonial possessions while Portuguese dictator Salazar was still holding on. At first the Frente Nacional de Libertação de Uiri (FNLU) tried peaceful protests against Salazar's colonial regime. When the Police came and massacred the protest, the FNLU knew that this was not going to won bloodlessly.

The War lasted 12 long years, but with the death of Salazar in 1970 and the Carnation Revolution in Portugal in 1974, many international commentators said the Portuguese Third Republic handed over independence because of the principles of democracy instead of superior guerrilla warfare tactics although both contributed to the winning of independence on July 8th 1975. Anyone interested?
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Re: OOC and Interest Uiric War of Independence (1963-1975|Open)

Postby The Macabees » Sun May 31, 2009 1:27 pm

What are you looking for other RPers to do? That is, what roles need to be filled?
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Re: OOC and Interest Uiric War of Independence (1963-1975|Open)

Postby Uiri » Sun May 31, 2009 2:15 pm

Well, at the suggestion of Faxanavia, I need a former colonial master.

I need armaments suppliers, any form of support on either side really. Post-war would be another RP which would involve my nation receiving lots of aid from other nations in order to become more technologically advanced. Perhaps foreign companies coming in during the post-war period as well.

As for you specifically, I was assuming you'd be my former (at the time of the RP it would be debatable whether or not the term should be present) colonial master.
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Re: OOC and Interest Uiric War of Independence (1963-1975|Open)

Postby Cukarica » Sun May 31, 2009 2:50 pm

Uiri,i'm pretty interested to join as an International Volunteer Brigade,something like Abraham Linkoln Brigade in the Spanish Civil war.
So if that would be possible count me in.
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Postby Lizardiar » Sun May 31, 2009 2:54 pm

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Re: OOC and Interest Uiric War of Independence (1963-1975|Open)

Postby The Macabees » Sun May 31, 2009 3:16 pm

Uiri wrote:As for you specifically, I was assuming you'd be my former (at the time of the RP it would be debatable whether or not the term should be present) colonial master.


Okay, so the dates could make sense with the historical background I've already developed for my nation. Between ~1900 (the exact beginning was chronicled somewhere, but I don't remember it) and 2005, the former First Empire of the Golden Throne went through what is called the "Great Civil War". The empire basically fractured into many different states, with the old monarchy centered in the region of Macabea (after the dynasty's name; now it's known as Díenstad). The civil war was just a collection of smaller wars between these independent states.

It could be that Uiri began its fight for independence against Macabea (the post-Empire state which would retain any colonies of the First Empire) due to its wars on the "mainland", and it was taking advantage of its current weakness. I have role-played similar break-off states in the past, although I have let them die off as the story didn't develop (and just ignored it ever happened).
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Postby Ursava » Sun May 31, 2009 3:23 pm

What type of government are we talking her for the dictatorship? Fascist, socialist, or something else entirely? I need to know because around this time the 'Democratically Free Nation' of Ursava was actually 'The People's Soviet Nation' of Ursava if you get my drift. They were ruled by the Soviet Union and I need to know so I can know which side to take.

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Postby Uiri » Sun May 31, 2009 3:48 pm

Lizardiar - could I get a sample of these (preferably) non-RL arms?

Cukarica - I assume you'd be helping my rebels?

The Macabees - That is actually quite perfect. I suppose your hopes for Uiri to help in the war by improving life in the colony basically backfired? :P

Ursava - I think we are looking at all around anti-communists so you're out of luck here. You could always try to breed your own communist rebels inside as a third faction I suppose.
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Postby Ursava » Sun May 31, 2009 3:50 pm

Yeah, Ursavian Spetsnaz could infiltrate the country and try to incite rebellion undercover...or maybe the Ursavian branch of the KGB.

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Postby Uiri » Sun May 31, 2009 3:56 pm

Ursava wrote:Yeah, Ursavian Spetsnaz could infiltrate the country and try to incite rebellion undercover...or maybe the Ursavian branch of the KGB.


Sounds good to me. After the independence of Ursava I assume it would be easy to eradicate the resulting post-war communist party?

I'd RP the resulting communist rebels but you'd supply them and tell me about their Communist doctrine.

So far we have:

Uiri - Nationalist Rebels
The Macabees - Present-Former Colonial Masters
Ursava - Communist Rebels Supplier
Cukarica - International Volunteers (helping one of the Rebel sides)
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Postby Ursava » Sun May 31, 2009 3:59 pm

Yeah, just send in a few KGB operatives as 'advisors' to train and teach willing, young, futureless (though we'd tell them they had one) men and women the ways of glorious communism. Also, it would be annihalated without too much Ursavian assistance later because they are coming under a new government which is soon tossed in to rebellion so...

Otherwise, after that you'd have no problem wiping them out.

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Postby The Macabees » Sun May 31, 2009 5:24 pm

Here is the new map of Greater Díenstad, with Uiri. Uiri is the island archipelago located northwest of The Macabees.

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i291/ ... /GDmap.jpg

I tried matching it to the size of Cuba (the long island), more or less. It might be slightly longer.
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Postby Ursava » Sun May 31, 2009 6:00 pm

Can't wait to start. Also, how could the KGB agents infiltrate the country? Should I RP them as having already been in-country before hand or crossing the border.

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Postby Uiri » Sun May 31, 2009 6:57 pm

Ursava wrote:Can't wait to start. Also, how could the KGB agents infiltrate the country? Should I RP them as having already been in-country before hand or crossing the border.


I would think that they should land in when news of the strike come in as a worker's strike is the Uiric first move at independence which is going to be forcibly squashed by The Macabees as we have discussed.
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Postby The Macabees » Sun May 31, 2009 7:00 pm

A possibility is:

The agents immigrate into Uiri in an effort to build some sort of Communist-syndicalist worker's brigade, or something like that, to turn what looks like an inevitable uprising against the Macabea Kingdom (the name of the "civil war" state which colonized Uiri) into a Communist type uprising.
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Postby Uiri » Mon Jun 01, 2009 2:52 pm

Bump for any more interest
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Postby Uiri » Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:11 pm

My apologies for the double post but the IC thread is up here.
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Postby The Macabees » Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:15 pm

Ursava, Uiri is an island. Here is a map. Immigration is entirely seaborne.
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Postby Uiri » Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:33 pm

Ursava, two things. I am an island. No borders. At all. You would probably enter a month after the riot as you would only really become aware because of the riot and you need some time to prepare. At least that's my opinion as the struggle would be suppressed as much as possible by the Macabean Government
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Postby Ursava » Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:51 pm

Oh...yeah.

Shows how much I remember

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Re: OOC and Interest Uiric War of Independence (1963-1975|Open)

Postby Dunczton » Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:56 pm

i will support the dictatorship, but nt with troops but supplies.

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Postby Uiri » Tue Jun 02, 2009 6:19 pm

Dunczton wrote:i will support the dictatorship, but nt with troops but supplies.


What dictatorship? Definitely shows you read about how a Monarchy is my [former] colonial master.

Please use a spell check.

And:
Dunczton wrote:I am sending 75,000 marines,25,000 paratroopes and an airstrike consisting of 12 fighters and 5 bombers to combat the rebels.


From the South East Europe Civil War Thread.

That is not RP. Read the first two posts of the IC thread. That's RP.

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Re: OOC and Interest Uiric War of Independence (1963-1975|Open)

Postby Vetalia » Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:15 pm

When it comes to civilian economic and technological aid, it doesn't get much better than what we can offer. During the 1960's and 1970's, not only we were at the height of the post-Revolution economic miracle and the "thirty glorious years" of Vetalian economic prosperity, but our country had a particular distaste for monarchic governments given our own experiences under the Empire.

So, following the Revolution we would no doubt be the primary source of economic and technological aid (not to mention, of course, underhandedly guaranteeing us a market in the country).
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Re: OOC and Interest Uiric War of Independence (1963-1975|Open)

Postby Uiri » Wed Jun 03, 2009 4:11 am

Vetalia - I do believe that we could come to an arrangement. This is exactly what I wanted to do post-war. Invite huge amounts of aid in exchange for guaranteeing a foreign market. However, at this point in the RP (1963), the war is only just beginning and thus the only thing the nationalist rebels need is basic supplies (food, water, toilet paper come to mind) and arms for our guerrilla war.

Luxuries are out of the question for the next 12 years of history in my country.
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Re: OOC and Interest Uiric War of Independence (1963-1975|Open)

Postby Ursava » Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:09 am

Look to Ursava then! We've got the ugliest looking Russian gear you've ever seen but it can only stop by running it over with a tank, or pouring cement down the barrel!


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