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Does the world need nuclear weapons

Postby Cozanne » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:11 pm

Does the world really need nuclear weapons. Scientist and researchers has prove that the power of the nuclear bombs does more damage than the hydrogen bomb, which itself is like 50 Hiroshima bombs. Does any nation needs these weapons of mass destruction and if not how are they to be disposes of. Studies suggested sending them to space but that was later dismiss do to the fact that if the spacecraft explode before leaving atmosphere it will poison the earth. :?:

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Postby Foguk » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:16 pm

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Postby Leanore » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:16 pm

I think we do need them, but not to use them. For security purposes only, that sort of thing. If the RL country you live in right now has nuclear weapons, and they were magically taken away, what would you do for your last option? People like North Korea don't give a crap about your country, they want to take it over because their mad at the US for helping South Korea in the 1950's.


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Postby Bordurian » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:17 pm

No, innocent people die when nukes are used.
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Postby Dissant Machine Empire » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:17 pm

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Postby Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:20 pm

Yes, we need them.

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Postby Sathera » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:25 pm

No, Nuclear weapons have caused War to become empty threats and boring exchanges of "I'll nuke you!" "Not If I nuke you first!" If we were absent of such annoying weapons, war would become much more exciting.
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Postby Zathganastan » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:27 pm

No, the only up side to having nukes threw out history has simply been the claim that by having nukes we're protecting ourselves from attacks by other nations who have them.It's a pointless cycle that would be better off broken.
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Postby Bordurian » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:33 pm

Think of it this way, what if a psychotic dictator were to get a nuke? It would cause a global crisis that might end up with millions dead.
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Postby Dissant Machine Empire » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:37 pm

You mean like you Bordurian?
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Postby Zathganastan » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:37 pm

Bordurian wrote:Think of it this way, what if a psychotic dictator were to get a nuke? It would cause a global crisis that might end up with millions dead.

Try billions, the Blast would kill millions but the radiation left over would kill off whole countries and make large area's of land uninhabitable.
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Postby Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:41 pm

Bordurian wrote:Think of it this way, what if a psychotic dictator were to get a nuke? It would cause a global crisis that might end up with millions dead.


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Postby Bordurian » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:55 pm

Zathganastan wrote:
Bordurian wrote:Think of it this way, what if a psychotic dictator were to get a nuke? It would cause a global crisis that might end up with millions dead.

Try billions, the Blast would kill millions but the radiation left over would kill off whole countries and make large area's of land uninhabitable.


No. Only two countries have million plus populations. Let's say the nuke landed on NY. About 20 million would die. The army would quarantine the city to prevent more deaths.
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Postby Bordurian » Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:56 pm

Dissant Machine Empire wrote:You mean like you Bordurian?


If I were from North Korea.
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Postby Dissant Machine Empire » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:02 pm

From The Council of International Affairs
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If I am not mistaken, you are ran by a big daddy dictator. Unfortunatly, you are exactly the countries that shouldn't pocess these weapons.
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Postby Bordurian » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:09 pm

Dissant Machine Empire wrote:From The Council of International Affairs
To Bordurian

If I am not mistaken, you are ran by a big daddy dictator. Unfortunatly, you are exactly the countries that shouldn't pocess these weapons.


From Bordurian to the Council of International affairs:

We have no weapons of mass destruction. We are a peace loving monarchy. Not a North Korea.
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Postby Zathganastan » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:18 pm

Bordurian wrote:
Zathganastan wrote:Try billions, the Blast would kill millions but the radiation left over would kill off whole countries and make large area's of land uninhabitable.


No. Only two countries have million plus populations. Let's say the nuke landed on NY. About 20 million would die. The army would quarantine the city to prevent more deaths.

Your joking right? a single warhead would level a city the size of LA in the first blast with the radiation left over killing off anyone unlucky enough to survive that.You can't Quarantine a nuclear blast sigh due to the fact that Radiation is air born and has a high area of effect that has been known to black whole regions.
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Postby Dissant Machine Empire » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:22 pm

Zathganastan..Radiation is energy, not some kind of disease that spreads through the air. It would not kill billions of people, that would be 1 or 2 out of every 7 people on the entire Earth. Radiation does not travel, it is intense energy left over from such massive explosions and yes, it can be quarentined. Just look at the Chernobyl incident in Russia, that was contained. Please think logicaly before you say things like that. There isn't even a billion people living in America.
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Postby Zathganastan » Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:35 pm

Dissant Machine Empire wrote:Zathganastan..Radiation is energy, not some kind of disease that spreads through the air. It would not kill billions of people, that would be 1 or 2 out of every 7 people on the entire Earth. Radiation does not travel, it is intense energy left over from such massive explosions and yes, it can be quarentined. Just look at the Chernobyl incident in Russia, that was contained. Please think logicaly before you say things like that. There isn't even a billion people living in America.

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You mean that disaster that had Radiation traveling as far as the United States from the Soviet union.

Second that was a reactor melt down not a nuclear missile, which is far less deadly then it's missile counterpart.The reason you can't quarantine a nuclear blast sight is due to the fact that area in which it hit would be a massive carter that contains enough radiation to last for year's after it's release, the Area would be a dead zone in which very few creatures would be able to survive making it both unnecessary and hopeless to try and contain a blast sight.
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Postby Dissant Machine Empire » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:09 pm

Well obviously random people wouldn't be wandering through the crater waiting to be killed so afterdeath is much less than a billion, in fact it would never reach a billion becuase once again, not even a billion people live in America. :clap:
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Postby Zathganastan » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:12 pm

Dissant Machine Empire wrote:Well obviously random people wouldn't be wandering through the crater waiting to be killed so afterdeath is much less than a billion, in fact it would never reach a billion becuase once again, not even a billion people live in America. :clap:

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And when did I ever say there was.
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Postby Dissant Machine Empire » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:18 pm

Zathganastan wrote:
Bordurian wrote:Think of it this way, what if a psychotic dictator were to get a nuke? It would cause a global crisis that might end up with millions dead.

Try billions, the Blast would kill millions but the radiation left over would kill off whole countries and make large area's of land uninhabitable.


Right there. If a nuke killed one billion people, 1 out of every 7 people in the entire world would die. That would be one powerful nuke. Case in point. :P
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Does the world need nuclear weapons

Postby Tarabynistan » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:20 pm

let's face the fact that sooner or later , a rogue dictator somewhere in the world will launch one of those bad boys, so we believe itz necessary to possess these devices for national security reasons

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Postby Zathganastan » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:23 pm

Dissant Machine Empire wrote:
Zathganastan wrote:Try billions, the Blast would kill millions but the radiation left over would kill off whole countries and make large area's of land uninhabitable.


Right there. If a nuke killed one billion people, 1 out of every 7 people in the entire world would die. That would be one powerful nuke. Case in point. :P

Once again were did I say there are 1 billion people in America, second if one nuke is launched then everyone else who has them will launch them as well.
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Postby Dissant Machine Empire » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:27 pm

You were specificly talking about one nuke strike. You also continued off your statement talking about America's cities suffering a billion casualties since u were argueing about your previous statement. What I simply said is that there are not even a billion people living in America.
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