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Postby Treko » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:12 pm

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Treko wrote:No, I don't want some agency saying what I can and can't do with my nuclear supply.


What he said.

Hey, you gotta have nukes sometimes.

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Postby New American Union » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:13 pm

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What he said.

Hey, you gotta have nukes sometimes.


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Postby Sjovenia » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:30 pm

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Sjovenia wrote:Hey so I was researching. Do you guys think we should have an IAEA for those of us going nuclear? That includes nuclear energy, nuclear science and studies, and nuclear weapons...possibly idk IAEA is mainly energy and science. IAEA stands for International Atomic Energy Agency. And I figure after my first nuclear meltdown probably spreading to the west...don't worry it will be on the border of Italy so not much is gunna happen...but after that meltdown we could create the agency. What do you guys think? Oh and the nuclear meltdown will be a minor one. Nothing compared to Chernobyl or Fukushima although, the area around the power plant i had the accodent at ,will be unliveable for 20 years. I will hold the same standards as Chernobyl after the accident before it closed down. Workers have shifts of 8 hours a day and then go on break for 2 months. I made it two months since they are working 8 hour shifts where as Chernobyl was 5 hour shifts and break for a month.

No, I don't want some agency saying what I can and can't do with my nuclear supply.

Alright. And how many of us are there going nuclear? Sjov, trek, NAU I think...anybody else?
And no it won't be for nuclear weapons or supply...just regulations on nuclear warfare should this rp come to it orrrr a newbie is godmodding so we blow him off the face of this earth. It Willa Also be rules and or regulations regarding safety of power plants or something. Idk just a thought but I could care less if we have it or not.
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Postby Bordurian » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:30 pm

Sjovenia wrote:Hey so I was researching. Do you guys think we should have an IAEA for those of us going nuclear? That includes nuclear energy, nuclear science and studies, and nuclear weapons...possibly idk IAEA is mainly energy and science. IAEA stands for International Atomic Energy Agency. And I figure after my first nuclear meltdown probably spreading to the west...don't worry it will be on the border of Italy so not much is gunna happen...but after that meltdown we could create the agency. What do you guys think? Oh and the nuclear meltdown will be a minor one. Nothing compared to Chernobyl or Fukushima although, the area around the power plant i had the accodent at ,will be unliveable for 20 years. I will hold the same standards as Chernobyl after the accident before it closed down. Workers have shifts of 8 hours a day and then go on break for 2 months. I made it two months since they are working 8
hour shifts where as Chernobyl was 5 hour shifts and break for a month.

Sounds like a good idea.
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Postby Corporate Councils » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:42 pm

Sjovenia wrote:Alright. And how many of us are there going nuclear? Sjov, trek, NAU I think...anybody else?
And no it won't be for nuclear weapons or supply...just regulations on nuclear warfare should this rp come to it orrrr a newbie is godmodding so we blow him off the face of this earth. It Willa Also be rules and or regulations regarding safety of power plants or something. Idk just a thought but I could care less if we have it or not.


Well if people are going nuclear, those of us that can afford it might as well join the party.

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Postby Sjovenia » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:44 pm

Corporate Councils wrote:
Sjovenia wrote:Alright. And how many of us are there going nuclear? Sjov, trek, NAU I think...anybody else?
And no it won't be for nuclear weapons or supply...just regulations on nuclear warfare should this rp come to it orrrr a newbie is godmodding so we blow him off the face of this earth. It Willa Also be rules and or regulations regarding safety of power plants or something. Idk just a thought but I could care less if we have it or not.


Well if people are going nuclear, those of us that can afford it might as well join the party.

Well..it's not based in money...it's based on wether your a hippy tree hugger or not.

Okay these past misspelled words are because I'm on the iPad so either big fingers or autocorrect and no I'm not fat. We all know how those dang apple product keyboards are. Atleast the product itself is good.
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Postby Treko » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:48 pm

Sjovenia wrote:
Corporate Councils wrote:
Well if people are going nuclear, those of us that can afford it might as well join the party.

Well..it's not based in money...it's based on wether your a hippy tree hugger or not.

Okay these past misspelled words are because I'm on the iPad so either big fingers or autocorrect and no I'm not fat. We all know how those dang apple product keyboards are. Atleast the product itself is good.

Damn hippies.

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Postby Bordurian » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:05 pm

Sjovenia wrote:
Corporate Councils wrote:
Well if people are going nuclear, those of us that can afford it might as well join the party.

Well..it's not based in money...it's based on wether your a hippy tree hugger or not.

Okay these past misspelled words are because I'm on the iPad so either big fingers or autocorrect and no I'm not fat. We all know how those dang apple product keyboards are. Atleast the product itself is good.

I do all my posts on my IPad.
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Postby Sjovenia » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:14 pm

Bordurian wrote:
Sjovenia wrote:Well..it's not based in money...it's based on wether your a hippy tree hugger or not.

Okay these past misspelled words are because I'm on the iPad so either big fingers or autocorrect and no I'm not fat. We all know how those dang apple product keyboards are. Atleast the product itself is good.

I do all my posts on my IPad.

I can't because then I start seeming like a ghetto black guy is posting lmao
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Postby Corporate Councils » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:25 pm

Sjovenia wrote:Well..it's not based in money...it's based on wether your a hippy tree hugger or not.


As well as a disgusting amount of money and technological know-how. I say we restrict each bloc to one nuclear weapon holder, that way it dosen't get too insane with the number of people that have the weapons. That leaves us with one capitalist, one communist, and one unaligned nuclear power. I suppose if you want to be a rogue state, then go for it, just understand that being an international pariah isn't a good thing.

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Postby Sjovenia » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:29 pm

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Sjovenia wrote:Well..it's not based in money...it's based on wether your a hippy tree hugger or not.


As well as a disgusting amount of money and technological know-how. I say we restrict each bloc to one nuclear weapon holder, that way it dosen't get too insane with the number of people that have the weapons. That leaves us with one capitalist, one communist, and one unaligned nuclear power. I suppose if you want to be a rogue state, then go for it, just understand that being an international pariah isn't a good thing.

I shall have as many as I can make....I think every one should. Just to have them. Not that number matters. Well kind of. And like I said a while back I claim or atleast want to be the one with the technological know how on radiation. Besides end of wwII atleast for me, I made a post about the beginning of research on a nuclear reactor. I don't care if others have the know how. After all I'm not really big into claiming things.
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Postby Corporate Councils » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:34 pm

If every single player has nuclear weapons, it kinda breaks down the international order and removes any influence that the leaders of the respective blocs might have over their follower nations. If you'd like nuclear weapons, then you should look to become a leader in the international order, or convince your leader that you should be the one to possess nuclear weapons.

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Postby Treko » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:35 pm

Sjovenia wrote:
Corporate Councils wrote:
As well as a disgusting amount of money and technological know-how. I say we restrict each bloc to one nuclear weapon holder, that way it dosen't get too insane with the number of people that have the weapons. That leaves us with one capitalist, one communist, and one unaligned nuclear power. I suppose if you want to be a rogue state, then go for it, just understand that being an international pariah isn't a good thing.

I shall have as many as I can make....I think every one should. Just to have them. Not that number matters. Well kind of. And like I said a while back I claim or atleast want to be the one with the technological know how on radiation. Besides end of wwII atleast for me, I made a post about the beginning of research on a nuclear reactor. I don't care if others have the know how. After all I'm not really big into claiming things.

I claim firearms and nothing else, if you want to have as many nukes as you want go ahead. Just remember everybody is going to have an eye on you. Also, one nuke to each block is completely full of shit, I'm mean come on. One nuke, when did the U.S. and Russia ever have one nuke during the cold wars.

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Postby Sjovenia » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:39 pm

Treko wrote:
Sjovenia wrote:I shall have as many as I can make....I think every one should. Just to have them. Not that number matters. Well kind of. And like I said a while back I claim or atleast want to be the one with the technological know how on radiation. Besides end of wwII atleast for me, I made a post about the beginning of research on a nuclear reactor. I don't care if others have the know how. After all I'm not really big into claiming things.

I claim firearms and nothing else, if you want to have as many nukes as you want go ahead. Just remember everybody is going to have an eye on you. Also, one nuke to each block is completely full of shit, I'm mean come on. One nuke, when did the U.S. and Russia ever have one nuke during the cold wars.

Exactly! And honestly I'm not gunna use how ever many nukes I have. Few for testing and the rest to keep an eye on the world. But I agree one nuke per bloc is stupid. How about...however many countries are in that bloc...that's how many nukes you have. Sounds reasonable? One nuke per country....x amount of nukes per bloc?

Also could we throw in some tension in the Cold War? Like some one opening silos and another doing the same and it's like a check mate for both and no one fires but tensions rise. And some how the crisis is averted via special ops team or leader changing mind or something?
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Postby Corporate Councils » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:40 pm

Not one nuclear weapon, but only one state with nuclear weapons. Yes, I know that the UK and France also had nuclear weapons since the US didn't exercise nearly the amount of control over its allies that the USSR did, but neither country was too keen on their followers gaining weapons. It's also interesting with the rise of China and India as nuclear powers, as each country could be seen as bloc leaders. China as the leader of the dissident communists, and India as the leader of the Unaligned movement.

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Postby Treko » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:40 pm

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Treko wrote:I claim firearms and nothing else, if you want to have as many nukes as you want go ahead. Just remember everybody is going to have an eye on you. Also, one nuke to each block is completely full of shit, I'm mean come on. One nuke, when did the U.S. and Russia ever have one nuke during the cold wars.

Exactly! And honestly I'm not gunna use how ever many nukes I have. Few for testing and the rest to keep an eye on the world. But I agree one nuke per bloc is stupid. How about...however many countries are in that bloc...that's how many nukes you have. Sounds reasonable? One nuke per country....x amount of nukes per bloc?


See that. That shouldn't be in there.

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Postby Sjovenia » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:44 pm

Treko wrote:
Sjovenia wrote:Exactly! And honestly I'm not gunna use how ever many nukes I have. Few for testing and the rest to keep an eye on the world. But I agree one nuke per bloc is stupid. How about...however many countries are in that bloc...that's how many nukes you have. Sounds reasonable? One nuke per country....x amount of nukes per bloc?


See that. That shouldn't be in there.

How? Need me to explain?

You and three others in one bloc. One nuke per country. But 4 nukes per bloc. Make sense?
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Postby Treko » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:45 pm

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See that. That shouldn't be in there.

How? Need me to explain?

You and three others in one bloc. One nuke per country. But 4 nukes per bloc. Make sense?

No, I don't want to be limited to the number of nukes i have.
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Postby Corporate Councils » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:47 pm

The problem with a small limited number of nuclear weapons is that they become a viable weapon at that point. The idea is that you have so many that you will completely destroy your enemy for using them. MAD, Mutually Assured Destruction, for those of you who don't know. That's why I say that each bloc has a metric shit-ton of nukes, but only one country per bloc has them in order to keep things sane.

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Postby Sjovenia » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:51 pm

Treko wrote:
Sjovenia wrote:How? Need me to explain?

You and three others in one bloc. One nuke per country. But 4 nukes per bloc. Make sense?

No, I don't want to be limited to the number of nukes i have.



Well I can't please your or Ccc both now can I? Well I don't want my nukes limited either but I'm trying to compromise with you two.

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Postby Treko » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:52 pm

Corporate Councils wrote:The problem with a small limited number of nuclear weapons is that they become a viable weapon at that point. The idea is that you have so many that you will completely destroy your enemy for using them. MAD, Mutually Assured Destruction, for those of you who don't know. That's why I say that each bloc has a metric shit-ton of nukes, but only one country per bloc has them in order to keep things sane.

Then what am I going to do with the rest of the uranium. I'm definitely not going to sell it and there won't be any Chernobyl going on in my country.

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Postby Corporate Councils » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:53 pm

Treko wrote:Then what am I going to do with the rest of the uranium. I'm definitely not going to sell it and there won't be any Chernobyl going on in my country.


Leave it in the ground? Make beautiful yellow glass? Weigh down the prow of antique wooden ships?

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Postby Treko » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:54 pm

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Treko wrote:Then what am I going to do with the rest of the uranium. I'm definitely not going to sell it and there won't be any Chernobyl going on in my country.


Leave it in the ground? Make beautiful yellow glass? Weigh down the prow of antique wooden ships?

Make more nukes?

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Postby Sjovenia » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:56 pm

Treko wrote:
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Leave it in the ground? Make beautiful yellow glass? Weigh down the prow of antique wooden ships?

Make more nukes?

Da comrade....makes more sense. Now let us drink vodka to the sound of our woes burning from our nuclear bombs dahahaha
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Postby Zumreed » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:57 pm

Maybe I should be the Unlaigned Super power with nukes....Hmmm
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