Dh'arconian Thought - A New NS Ideology [ Open / OOC ]

[Tarler]

I gotta talk to some people about details but this is largely how I see it.

» Nation Name: The People's Combine of Tarler, sometimes called the Eden of Ellorea
» Population: 143,450,000
» Region: Ellorea
» Brief History of Dh'arconianism in your nation: Following the Famine of 1954 and Solmian withdrawal from Tarler the first Dh'arconian missionaries reached Tarler in the late 50s, with the movement reaching it's zenith in the Government of 1979, which lasted just 16 months before a joint Solmian-Trescottian-Yohannese led international task force removed the tyrannical government from power.

Almost overnight Dh'arconianism became a dirty word, taboo for two decades before the Millennium Scandal brought down the government of President Simeon Shep, who's Cabinet was found to be planning to enact wide-ranging repeals of environmental legislature at the request of foreign corporations. Dh'arconian academics, including charismatic orator and current Chairman of the Advisory Committee on Legislative Affairs Tal Akeem, the Tarlan legislature's scheduling body, played a large part in exposing the scandal and leading the subsequent protests.

Tarlan Dh'arconianism today (also known as Akeem-Dh'arconianism), varying from the classical ideology in it's focus on the environment and sustainable use of it rather than just self-sufficency, is gaining in popularity, with Akeem's book Tarler and the Dh'arconist: An Eden's Solution to a World Problem becoming a best seller. Akeem-Dh'arconianism also differs as it completely dispenses with ideas of Eugenics and ideal ethnicity, recognising that Tarler is a so-called 'melting-pot' of races. The focus on eugenics is retained by the more extremist Real Dh'arconist Movement, formed by classical Dh'arconists who split from Akeem's Unified Dh'arconist Movement (since renamed the Dh'arcon Edenist Party when the UDM entered the legislative elections of 2003, gaining 7% of the national vote).

The RDM is classified as a borderline terrorist organisation, with it's leading members monitored by police, and they are thought to be responsible for as many as 30 serious crimes in the last 7 years.

[Katyuscha]

Nation Name: Katyuscha
Population: 971 million
Region: Alliance of Dictators
Brief History of Dh'arconianism in your nation: To this day, Katyuscha still enforces Dh' arconian ( or as it's called in Katyuscha, Kroanism) beliefs and practices. Katyuschas history is filled with an inumerable amount of civil wars that erupted mainly between the Slavic East and the Germanic West, Katyuscha has developed a strong hatred and dis-trust of foreigners. These civil wars went on for centuries until the most recent which was 28 years ago.

Katyuscha has recently come into a state of peace as the East anWest had come to friendly agreements, but this new found pewce has not changed how the Katyuschans feel about outsiders. The Katyuschan borders have been closed off for almost 80 years now and border police, along with urban police forces are constantly on the lookout for anyone suspected of being out of country. Foreigners who are caught are ether jailed, deported or in some cases executed. While some products are still imported from other countries, most products are made within the nation.

The Katyuschan Dh' arconianism or Kroanist - Dh' arconianism, differs from classic Dh' arconianism in that ethnic purity is more important than keeping foreign goods out of the country. While its is next to impossible to become a citizen of Katyuscha without being a native, acquiring forein goods is much easier. As said above not all products are made within the country, but there's a high terrif on imported goods.

To be unable to speak Katyuschan is illegal, and anyone caught speaking a foreign language is often seen as being suspicious. While Katyuscha tries to grant as many civil liberties as possible to its citizens, it still enforces its Fascist/ Dh' arconiest dogma upon its population. All this is done to prevent future civil wars from happening, and keep Katyuscha a blissful, beautiful, and conflict free.

If a foreigner does come to Katyuscha, they have to go through hours of paperwork, questions and tests in order to become citizens. One they do become citizens, they are treated the same way a sex offender would be treated in that everyone in the area is in formed about their presence and the government keeps close watch on their movements.

[Milograd]

I gotta talk to some people about details but this is largely how I see it.

» Nation Name: The People's Combine of Tarler, sometimes called the Eden of Ellorea
» Population: 143,450,000
» Region: Ellorea
» Brief History of Dh'arconianism in your nation: Following the Famine of 1954 and Solmian withdrawal from Tarler the first Dh'arconian missionaries reached Tarler in the late 50s, with the movement reaching it's zenith in the Government of 1979, which lasted just 16 months before a joint Solmian-Trescottian-Yohannese led international task force removed the tyrannical government from power.

Almost overnight Dh'arconianism became a dirty word, taboo for two decades before the Millennium Scandal brought down the government of President Simeon Shep, who's Cabinet was found to be planning to enact wide-ranging repeals of environmental legislature at the request of foreign corporations. Dh'arconian academics, including charismatic orator and current Chairman of the Advisory Committee on Legislative Affairs Tal Akeem, the Tarlan legislature's scheduling body, played a large part in exposing the scandal and leading the subsequent protests.

Tarlan Dh'arconianism today (also known as Akeem-Dh'arconianism), varying from the classical ideology in it's focus on the environment and sustainable use of it rather than just self-sufficency, is gaining in popularity, with Akeem's book Tarler and the Dh'arconist: An Eden's Solution to a World Problem becoming a best seller. Akeem-Dh'arconianism also differs as it completely dispenses with ideas of Eugenics and ideal ethnicity, recognising that Tarler is a so-called 'melting-pot' of races. The focus on eugenics is retained by the more extremist Real Dh'arconist Movement, formed by classical Dh'arconists who split from Akeem's Unified Dh'arconist Movement (since renamed the Dh'arcon Edenist Party when the UDM entered the legislative elections of 2003, gaining 7% of the national vote).

The RDM is classified as a borderline terrorist organisation, with it's leading members monitored by police, and they are thought to be responsible for as many as 30 serious crimes in the last 7 years.

I'll add this to the roster and timeline. Cheers.

[Milograd]

Nation Name: Katyuscha
Population: 971 million
Region: Alliance of Dictators
Brief History of Dh'arconianism in your nation: To this day, Katyuscha still enforces Dh' arconian ( or as it's called in Katyuscha, Kroanism) beliefs and practices. Katyuschas history is filled with an inumerable amount of civil wars that erupted mainly between the Slavic East and the Germanic West, Katyuscha has developed a strong hatred and dis-trust of foreigners. These civil wars went on for centuries until the most recent which was 28 years ago.

Katyuscha has recently come into a state of peace as the East anWest had come to friendly agreements, but this new found pewce has not changed how the Katyuschans feel about outsiders. The Katyuschan borders have been closed off for almost 80 years now and border police, along with urban police forces are constantly on the lookout for anyone suspected of being out of country. Foreigners who are caught are ether jailed, deported or in some cases executed. While some products are still imported from other countries, most products are made within the nation.

The Katyuschan Dh' arconianism or Kroanist - Dh' arconianism, differs from classic Dh' arconianism in that ethnic purity is more important than keeping foreign goods out of the country. While its is next to impossible to become a citizen of Katyuscha without being a native, acquiring forein goods is much easier. As said above not all products are made within the country, but there's a high terrif on imported goods.

To be unable to speak Katyuschan is illegal, and anyone caught speaking a foreign language is often seen as being suspicious. While Katyuscha tries to grant as many civil liberties as possible to its citizens, it still enforces its Fascist/ Dh' arconiest dogma upon its population. All this is done to prevent future civil wars from happening, and keep Katyuscha a blissful, beautiful, and conflict free.

If a foreigner does come to Katyuscha, they have to go through hours of paperwork, questions and tests in order to become citizens. One they do become citizens, they are treated the same way a sex offender would be treated in that everyone in the area is in formed about their presence and the government keeps close watch on their movements.

This is acceptable, and I'll add you to the roster and timeline.

[Dukopolious]

[Previously discussed with Milograd over IRC]

» Nation Name:The Stratocratic Monarchy of Dukopolious
» Population:Approx. ~1.5 Billion (March 2012 Estimate) [Colonies included] [From NS page]
» Region:Greater Dienstad
» Brief History of Dh'arconianism in your nation: In the Ancient Era, Dh'arconianism war instilled by a group of missionaries from abroad. Dh'arconians were often frowned down upon, eventually there was a genocide. Nearly every Dh'arconian (Including the residing Dukopion Dh'arco) was killed or converted in Dukopolious. Yet since then, Dukopolious retained it's isolationist, Xenophobic lifestyle. The people still followed the rules and values of Dh'arconianism, due to the fact that it was how many of them were raised, including the ones who had committed the genocide. Centuries passed and the values remained. The first Dukopion King only strengthened the values of Dh'arconianism in Dukopolious. By the time that the monarchy was dissolved, and the 12th burning of the Dukopion Library, very few people even knew of the existence of Dh'arconianism. Even fewer knew they still followed it by nature. During the times of the Democratic Diarchy, Scholars and professors alike searched for the cause of Dukopolious' human nature, with little success many quit, luckily, the Arch-Bishop of Dunkov (Dukopolious' native religion) had not. Dukopolious had always been militaristic and self reliant, yet there was never a title for this. After the civil war, and contact with many other states, history was recovered, and Dh'arconianism once again flourished in Dukopolious. Now, Dh'arconianism is law, and the Dukopion Dh'arco, a lawmaker.

[Milograd]

[Previously discussed with Milograd over IRC]

» Nation Name:The Stratocratic Monarchy of Dukopolious
» Population:Approx. ~1.5 Billion (March 2012 Estimate) [Colonies included] [From NS page]
» Region:Greater Dienstad
» Brief History of Dh'arconianism in your nation: In the Ancient Era, Dh'arconianism war instilled by a group of missionaries from abroad. Dh'arconians were often frowned down upon, eventually there was a genocide. Nearly every Dh'arconian (Including the residing Dukopion Dh'arco) was killed or converted in Dukopolious. Yet since then, Dukopolious retained it's isolationist, Xenophobic lifestyle. The people still followed the rules and values of Dh'arconianism, due to the fact that it was how many of them were raised, including the ones who had committed the genocide. Centuries passed and the values remained. The first Dukopion King only strengthened the values of Dh'arconianism in Dukopolious. By the time that the monarchy was dissolved, and the 12th burning of the Dukopion Library, very few people even knew of the existence of Dh'arconianism. Even fewer knew they still followed it by nature. During the times of the Democratic Diarchy, Scholars and professors alike searched for the cause of Dukopolious' human nature, with little success many quit, luckily, the Arch-Bishop of Dunkov (Dukopolious' native religion) had not. Dukopolious had always been militaristic and self reliant, yet there was never a title for this. After the civil war, and contact with many other states, history was recovered, and Dh'arconianism once again flourished in Dukopolious. Now, Dh'arconianism is law, and the Dukopion Dh'arco, a lawmaker.

Approved.

[Katyuscha]

Is there any chance that we'll be able to see this time line?

[Dukopolious]

Is there any chance that we'll be able to see this time line?

Well, seeing as there are many different nations and included factors and that milograd is fairly short on time, chances are it will take a while. I'd be patient if I were you.

[Moustacheopolis]

Question:

How do you Roleplay as a total isolationist? Do you just not post?

That would be the worst thread ever.

[Milograd]

Is there any chance that we'll be able to see this time line?

Yes. I'm very busy and fairly ill at the moment, and haven't had the motivation to finish its construction. Once I do, however, we'll probably construct a basic outline of the ideology's history among our nations and such. My apologies; I hope to post it in a few days.

[Milograd]

Question:

How do you Roleplay as a total isolationist? Do you just not post?

That would be the worst thread ever.

A nation does not simply become a total isolationist overnight; the process of RPing a nation's transition into isolationism is capable of spawning countless threads, and furthermore one does not necessarily have to RP their state as being absolutely isolationist despite that being the IC goal of their nation. I is's possible that someone could RP a Dh'arconian state "in-progress" that is making the slow transition into isolationism, but is not absolutely isolated.

[Izzyshipper]

Nation Name: The Kingdom of Izzyshipper
Population: 440 million (RP population)
Region: The Forum of Nations
Brief History of Dh'arconianism in your nation:

Dh'arconianism spread to the court of King Felipe The Terrible in 1671, by the Izzerian traveller and Philosopher Edward Catterati, who learned of it from the histories of Vashk Hanzka and wrote of the movement in his novel "The Steel Fist of the Emperor."

King Felipe was known to have embraced the idea wholeheartedly and saw Dh'arconianism as the way to stabilise his fracturing Empire. Felipe began widespread culling and enslavement of the "Negro's, Blackamoors and Jews" that dotted his Empire. Although for the Jewish people, he merely instated a series of economic and social restrictions.

Upon his death (and some say assassination) his daughter, Queen Margaret forcibly stamped out all the supporters of the philosophy, arresting several politicians and Privy Councillors which had pushed the reforms through.

Yet Dh'arconianism was one of the many alternative forms of Government that where discussed in the Salons and debating halls in 18th century Izzyshipper, Maria Arienna, noted socialite and writer and Edward Di'Catto, a leading social reformer where among its advocates.

Yet it was lost among the surge of democratic reforms in the nineteenth century, becoming nothing more than a footnote in history textbooks. However, during the reign of King Henry IV (1946 - 1989) the sudden resurgence in Izzerian colonial efforts as well as military expeditions, an strong isolationist feeling arose within the nation.

No longer mere theories discussed within Universities, Social Reformers and Radicals began to take Dh'arconianism to their hearts. Soon it was widely known that King Henry was seeking to eradicate the ideology. Several leading members of the Dh'arconian Nationalist, and the The League for Dh'arconian Reform where arrested.

Upon King Henry's death in 1989, many hoped his daughter Queen Sophia would end Izzyshipper's foreign endeavours. However, the Queen has spent most of her reign trying to increase Izzyshipper's participation in international incidents.

In 2001, both the Dh'arconian Nationalist, and the The League for Dh'arconian Reform joined forces to become the Nationalist Dh'arconian Reformers (NDR). However it wasn't until 2011 when the small fringe group became a national threat. In the Capital of Vinera, a small bomb detonated within the car of Queen Sophia, causing the death of her driver and the Queen to be injured. The NDR claimed responsibility and promised further retaliation.

[Milograd]

@Izzyshipper: Approved.

[Premislyd]

Quick question regarding the whole "Self-Reliance" concept.

Self-Reliance just means that there isn't any importing of goods, but still allows the aforementioned state to export goods, right? Or does it mean there's no importing or exporting of goods?

[Milograd]

Quick question regarding the whole "Self-Reliance" concept.

Self-Reliance just means that there isn't any importing of goods, but still allows the aforementioned state to export goods, right? Or does it mean there's no importing or exporting of goods?

It is entirely up to you how you interpret Dh'arconian Thought, so it depends on your views on it ICly. Milograd doesn't import or export any goods, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you can't have a different interpretation of Dh'arconianism.

[Premislyd]

Quick question regarding the whole "Self-Reliance" concept.

Self-Reliance just means that there isn't any importing of goods, but still allows the aforementioned state to export goods, right? Or does it mean there's no importing or exporting of goods?

It is entirely up to you how you interpret Dh'arconian Thought, so it depends on your views on it ICly. Milograd doesn't import or export any goods ICly, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you can't have a different interpretation of Dh'arconianism ICly.

More grey area D:<

Anyways, thanks for the swift reply

[Tarler]

Milograd doesn't import or export any goods,

Hard to import anything with Kraven rolling all over you

[Old Tyrannia]

» Nation Name: Old Tyrannia, The Grand Fascist Empire of
» Population: 5.7 billion
» Region: North Atlantic (OOC: The Tyrannian Empire)
» Brief History of Dh'arconianism in your nation: The Dh'arconian movement arose in Old Tyrannia during the early 19th century, and soon became popular. The Dh'arconians were generally seen as being opposed to the Imperialists, with both being right-wing reactionary movements but the former being strongly isolationist while the latter was colonialist. When the Imperial Parliament was first formed by the reforming Emperor Scipio VIII, Dh'arconians were forbidden from being elected, due to the Emperor's own imperialist ambitions which he feared would be hindered by the Dh'arconian MPs. Dh'arconianism eventually became absorbed into the wider 'Purist' movement within Tyrannian politics, which opposed the Reformists and Imperialists, the two other principal currents in Imperial politics.

Tyrannian 'Purism' was essentially an anti-reform, anti-interventionist movement of which Dh'arconianism was the more extreme branch. However, Purism became less and less popular as the century progressed. Dh'arconian thought experienced something of a revival during the early 1920s, when it was mainly aligned with the Monarchist movement and arose principally as an anti-Communist ideology. Dh'arconians soon came into conflict with the newer ideology of Fascism, with both ideologies competing to gain Imperial favour and establish themselves as the primary state ideology; however, ultimately the importance of Fascism on the continent ensured its victory over Dh'arconianism in the Empire. Dh'arconianism lost influence following the Second World War, when their views on ethnic purity led to them being associated with Nazism- and the Empire was very keen to remove any trace of their association with Nazi Germany in the post-war period.

Dh'arconian politics resurfaced some years later, only after the Empire's vicious programme of exterminating Nazis and similar ideological factions died down. By this point, Tyrannian Fascism as preached by the Monarchist and Imperial Fascist parties was well entrenched, but a new Dh'arconian movement grew up slowly between the 1955 Cocoa Desert War and the 1990s. The Dh'arconian Way Party was the first Dh'arconian party in Tyrannia since the 1930s, formed in 1996, and has since become an important minor party. However, the Dh'arconians are undermined by their hostility towards the Fascist and Imperialist Emperor, which makes old-style Conservatives who might be attracted by the ideology wary. Dh'arconians are generally wary of taking up arms because of their small numbers and the knowledge that however tolerant it may seem, the Tyrannian state is just as ruthless in eliminating its opponents as any other Fascist state, and the Imperial secret police are always watching.

[Milograd]

That sounds great to me, Old Tyrannia; I hope you enjoy RPing a Dh'arconian presence within your nation. I've been short on time as of late, but will construct that timeline when I can.

[The Black Plains]

It's interesting, but makes it hard to justify intervening in things ICly without abandoning the principles of isolationism.

[Katyuscha]

It's interesting, but makes it hard to justify intervening in things ICly without abandoning the principles of isolationism.

Well, isolationism can mean more than just syaying out of foreign affairs.

[The Black Plains]

It's interesting, but makes it hard to justify intervening in things ICly without abandoning the principles of isolationism.

Well, isolationism can mean more than just syaying out of foreign affairs.

Well, no, because that's what isolationism is. That would be like me saying "A dog does not necessarily have to be a dog; it can very well be a cat too." A moderate statement isn't necessarily accurate. A dog is a dog and isolationism is isolationism.

[Kyrusia]

Well, isolationism can mean more than just syaying out of foreign affairs.

Well, no, because that's what isolationism is. That would be like me saying "A dog does not necessarily have to be a dog; it can very well be a cat too." A moderate statement isn't necessarily accurate. A dog is a dog and isolationism is isolationism.

Out-of-Character: I think you under-estimate the willingness of a dystopic society to be hypocritical, and view Dh'arconian Thought purely from its "ideal," not its practical, perspective.

Though, more directly, isolationism can cover a very broad spectrum in regard to international politics; as far as I understand Dh'arconianism - having discussed it in fairly lengthy detail with Milograd - it stands as non-interventionist, economic self-reliance insofar as capable (specifically the refusal of commerce outside of the region of Gholgoth - and possibly Varathron), agricultural and industrial internalization (produce their own commodities without the need to trade), and a general refusal to embrace the imperialistic and colonialistic aspects of the region of Gholgoth.

In short, Milograd - and Dh'arconian Thought in Milograd - is a non-interventionist, commercially isolated, industrially self-reliant nation; even so, this isolationism, given the standard that Milograd presents and the frame of reference it operates in, obviously violates some of its own political principles merely by existing. For one, it is a member of the Gholgoth Regional Alliance, which violates the "standard" definition of "isolationism"; therefore, that form of isolationism - one where refusal to embrace foreign relations and enter-into international treaties occurs - is not present here. As such, saying, "'A' is 'A' because 'B' says so," is not applicable. This is NationStates, not reality; in a larger context, political philosophies and political standards of policy are not always analogous. Each nation has a different view without the historical context imposed upon the very same nomenclature as reality does; where "isolationism" can mean a certain standard of policies in reality, that standard may or may not be entirely the same here.

As we see in Milograd, this is the case: Milogradian isolationism is not synonymous with the isolationism in reality. It is different, has different goals, and is executed differently. Furthermore, once we account for the engendered hypocrisy of a likely revisionistic dystopia, we can almost entirely throw-out the entire description I just gave. Milograd will do what is necessary to maintain power - regardless of ideological standards. The population have become so devoted to the Dh'arco and the Dh'arconian Regime that they can, quite literally, execute any policy - regardless of its inherent hypocrisy and/or contradiction(s) - and simply state "this is Dh'arconian Thought; it has always been this way" and such will largely be accepted as fact.

Regardless of political and philosophical ideals, the ultimate purpose of any state is to maintain itself; due to this, all but the most ethically altruistic will, inevitably, violate their own philosophical principles to maintain the status quo with as minimal a loss to support as possible - be it support of the population, international community, economic stability, etc. As a regional member of Gholgoth, Milograd can do this ad infinitum, as there will always be at least one fellow Goth willing to give support. Lastly, it can commit this blatant hypocrisy due to the simple fact that, quite obviously, as a dystopia, Milogradian citizens are little more than drones that persist only to persist and continue this persistence to the benefit-of and at the mercy of the Dh'arconian state.

[Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia]

» Nation Name: [ Greater Unified Collective Soviet People's Huangdiist Teikoku ]
» Population: [ 1.671 billion in main population | 2.675 billion in Empire | more in other dominions or nations that merged into the Teikoku later on (see signature for more... details, under the Overseas section) ]
» Region: [ Japanese Pan Asian Co Prosperity Sphere ]
» Brief History of Dh'arconianism in your nation: [ Dh'arconianism in our nation had been merely a small rarely practised ideology in our state until the Isolationist Army Movement sprung in 2021 which used it to justify the need to isolate the state to prevent it from being hurt by foreigners ever again. Nevertheless it was also essentially a part of Huangdiism since Juche in it as well as self-reliance economically in general has apparently existed in Dh'arconianism. ]

[Leasath]

» Nation Name: The Republic of Leasath (Upon acceptance would become the Dh'arconian Empire of Leasath)
» Population: 11.148 billion (OOCly, I will change it if it brings up any problems. I know that its ridiculously huge.)
» Region: Texas
» Brief History of Dh'arconianism in your nation: After gaining momentum throughout the late 1800's through to 1951, Dh'arconianism was become a real challenger to the long ruling Conservative Democrat Party. After long deliberations, then-President William Dalineux decided to outlaw the ideology in October, 1951. While many movements have been sparked since, none were able to change the law.

However, in early 1992, President William Bertolucci realized that Dh'arconianism was an ideology very close to his own, and decided to use executive order to legalise it. After the Dh'arconian party was formed, it was only a matter of time before it gained most of the seats in the Senate, and voted to change the nation to a Dh'arconian system in 2011. It took the Supreme Court of the Republic many long days and a public discussion time of almost 13 hours to finally let the law pass on March 22nd, 2012.

(Note: If I RP this wrongly, please let me know! =))