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Postby Ossurwald » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:46 am

Phalnia wrote:I'll take the steppes, obviously.

Steppes in the northwest, the sort of yellowish area. I figured they'd form from the mountains. Not really sure about the geographic conditions that create steppes.

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Postby Phalnia » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:57 am

Ossurwald wrote:
Phalnia wrote:I'll take the steppes, obviously.

Steppes in the northwest, the sort of yellowish area. I figured they'd form from the mountains. Not really sure about the geographic conditions that create steppes.

I figured that was them.

Also just Googled it steppes can form inland (Mongolia) or along coast (Patagonia) so it doesn't matter I guess.

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Postby Ossurwald » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:04 am

Awesome, Phalnia

Talahame as a region is also established.

I think we should take stock of what we've got for our as yet unnamed kingdom.

Casimir Jarozlavich, Duke of Chervaen
Kaspar Vlado, Baron of Brennertal
Augustine Carr, Baron of Phalnia
Isidore Bardonne, Duke of Osca
Urlic 'Argifere' Ifelin, Duke of Ossurwald
Leofric Dale, Baron of the Dales
Robert Deering, Baron of Vertvale
Aston Kavor, Duke (self-styled "Prince") of Kavorhold
Antonio Ciano, Baron of Adrakon


So let's divide this out by my assumptions on names:

English-based
Urlic 'Argifere' Ifelin, Duke of Ossurwald
Isidore Bardonne, Duke of Osca
Leofric Dale, Baron of the Dales
Robert Deering, Baron of Vertvale
Augustine Carr, Baron of Phalnia

Slavic-based
Casimir Jarozlavich, Duke of Chervaen
Kaspar Vlado, Baron of Brennertal

Italian-based
Antonio Ciano, Baron of Adrakon

Now, obviously, these could be way off. But it sort of shows us where we can look for names. I suggest that the conquest of this island brings a more English-type person in over these Slavic-based folks.

The other thing is a lot of folks went for Baron. And we kind of have no counts. So, given the English-style predominance in our country, all Barons are now officially Earls (sounds cooler than Counts, in my opinion).

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Postby Mereshka » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:06 am

I very much hope this is still open for joining?
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Postby Ossurwald » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:08 am

Mereshka wrote:I very much hope this is still open for joining?

Yep. It's a region, so, it's sort of open for anyone willing to join the region.

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Postby Mereshka » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:14 am

Very well! I'll see about geting an app up soon then.
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Postby Mereshka » Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:44 am

Nation name: Mereshka
Family name: Dalria
Head of family: Akston Dalria
Family seat: Alsome
Proposed name of holdings: Thedon
Aimed for level of power (select one): Duchy/County/Kingdom/March/Barony
Links to 3 RPs or alternatively, a strong RP excerpt example:[/b]
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=54762&start=25
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=61967
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=23373

I'm not particuarly happy about these examples, but I went through a period of hefty inactivity, so the ones I'd prefer have mostly been deleted by now.
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Postby Ossurwald » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:15 am

Mereshka wrote:Nation name: Mereshka
Family name: Dalria
Head of family: Akston Dalria
Family seat: Alsome
Proposed name of holdings: Thedon
Aimed for level of power (select one): Duchy/County/Kingdom/March/Barony
Links to 3 RPs or alternatively, a strong RP excerpt example:[/b]
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=54762&start=25
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=61967
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=23373

I'm not particuarly happy about these examples, but I went through a period of hefty inactivity, so the ones I'd prefer have mostly been deleted by now.

Good enough, accepted. Although, I'm thinking Counties will be Earldoms now, instead. Unless people object.

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Postby Mereshka » Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:26 am

Works for me.
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Postby Nieu Danmark » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:58 am

I'll place the Dales in the mountainous area in the bottom centre, just north off the southern coast, and centred in the valley.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:35 am

Ossurwald wrote:--snip--

Since you mentioned that Celtic influences will also be involved earlier, would it be appropriate to be Welsh-based with English influences?
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Postby Austria and Her Possessions » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:15 am

Excellent! It only says that I've got one post because the RPing that I'm doing at the moment is on F7, which for some reason doesn't add anything to the posting tally.

I'd rather like to be in the area South-central around the two lakes, but as I'm only a Baron, it should be a rather small territory, perhaps with the enclave of a town or two in someone else's territory nearby, inherited from a marriage. Should we have some 'barbaric' territory, too (As in, the Scottish picts during the time of William the conquerer)?

My highest priority in terms of position on the map would be somewhere near the Duchy of Chervaen, due to our cultural similarities. If we are going along a sort of 'England' style history (which I'm not saying we are), the English perhaps could be the descendants of successful invaders from around 100 years ago that are now integrating well with the native masses, while those named from minority groups could be the descendants of native landowners who managed to stay in favour with the invaders by surrendering or co-operating (explaining why there are so few of them).

Also, I feel as though the name 'Austria and Her Possessions' isn't an entirely appropriate name for this RP, but if you're against having puppets for this purpose, then I'll keep it.
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Postby Seleria » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:24 am

For Vertvales location on the map, I highlighted three areas I would particularly like to have. Image here.I don't want all three of the areas, rather, I would like to be placed in one of those three areas. Which area doesn't matter, just which-ever one isn't already taken. Thanks for including me in the project, I look forward to collaborating with you all!
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Postby Austria and Her Possessions » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:32 am

How large is this map, exactly? Because if it's huge, then I wouldn't want more than a small area. I'd be one of those areas wedged between more powerful territories, one which rivals would constantly be trying to curry favour with.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:33 am

Austria and Her Possessions wrote:How large is this map, exactly? Because if it's huge, then I wouldn't want more than a small area. I'd be one of those areas wedged between more powerful territories, one which rivals would constantly be trying to curry favour with.

I believe the comparison was either Britain or France in terms of size.

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Postby Austria and Her Possessions » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:12 am

Ceannairceach wrote:
Austria and Her Possessions wrote:How large is this map, exactly? Because if it's huge, then I wouldn't want more than a small area. I'd be one of those areas wedged between more powerful territories, one which rivals would constantly be trying to curry favour with.

I believe the comparison was either Britain or France in terms of size.


If that's the case, then, I'll make my claim smaller:
My new claim

Even then, I suppose I'd be one of the more powerful barons. Are we going to fill in the map with unused territories that can be claimed, too?
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Postby Spiral Sun » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:14 am

Prince-Bishoprics allowed?
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:21 am

Spiral Sun wrote:Prince-Bishoprics allowed?

I was allowed to stylize myself as a prince, but for all intensive purposes I held the power and title of a duke.

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Postby Pawn and King » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:53 am

Ossurwald wrote:Awesome, Phalnia

Talahame as a region is also established.

I think we should take stock of what we've got for our as yet unnamed kingdom.

Casimir Jarozlavich, Duke of Chervaen
Kaspar Vlado, Baron of Brennertal
Augustine Carr, Baron of Phalnia
Isidore Bardonne, Duke of Osca
Urlic 'Argifere' Ifelin, Duke of Ossurwald
Leofric Dale, Baron of the Dales
Robert Deering, Baron of Vertvale
Aston Kavor, Duke (self-styled "Prince") of Kavorhold
Antonio Ciano, Baron of Adrakon


So let's divide this out by my assumptions on names:

English-based
Urlic 'Argifere' Ifelin, Duke of Ossurwald
Isidore Bardonne, Duke of Osca
Leofric Dale, Baron of the Dales
Robert Deering, Baron of Vertvale
Augustine Carr, Baron of Phalnia

Slavic-based
Casimir Jarozlavich, Duke of Chervaen
Kaspar Vlado, Baron of Brennertal

Italian-based
Antonio Ciano, Baron of Adrakon

Now, obviously, these could be way off. But it sort of shows us where we can look for names. I suggest that the conquest of this island brings a more English-type person in over these Slavic-based folks.

The other thing is a lot of folks went for Baron. And we kind of have no counts. So, given the English-style predominance in our country, all Barons are now officially Earls (sounds cooler than Counts, in my opinion).


2 things:

Sorry, yes, that previous post was mine. This, however, is generally my RP main account (the other account doesn't do too much apart from accumulate population, lazy as it is.)

Secondly, English dominance sounds fine, though I may Slavify place names (if this is done, the actual place name will be bracketed). Just to clarify, as well, are you using Earl as in the early Jarl definition? Otherwise I think it would require a central monarchy to create Earls.

EDIT:

I would like to be close to AustriaHP, due to, as said, cultural similarities. The claim I've made is hopefully reasonable enough: if it isn't, I can scale back a bit. http://s826.photobucket.com/albums/zz18 ... =RrB9g.jpg

This does encroach on Seleria's 2nd choice, though.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:54 am

Pawn and King wrote:Just to clarify, as well, are you using Earl as in the early Jarl definition? Otherwise I think it would require a central monarchy to create Earls.

Well, as it says in the OP, there was a king, but due to the lack of a clear heir, the lords are now squabbling.

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Postby Austria and Her Possessions » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:09 am

Ceannairceach wrote:
Pawn and King wrote:Just to clarify, as well, are you using Earl as in the early Jarl definition? Otherwise I think it would require a central monarchy to create Earls.

Well, as it says in the OP, there was a king, but due to the lack of a clear heir, the lords are now squabbling.


Ah, Pawn and King! Did you read my suggestion for as to why there are seemingly different cultures? I'd rather like it if our families could be quite chummy... How powerful are you aiming to start off?

If we're earls now, I may style myself as thane, which is an equivalent title?
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Postby Pawn and King » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:34 am

Austria and Her Possessions wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Well, as it says in the OP, there was a king, but due to the lack of a clear heir, the lords are now squabbling.


Ah, Pawn and King! Did you read my suggestion for as to why there are seemingly different cultures? I'd rather like it if our families could be quite chummy... How powerful are you aiming to start off?

If we're earls now, I may style myself as thane, which is an equivalent title?


Yes, I'd like to be fairly chummy with you. I believe thane is more like a Barony, if you're going with Scottish nobility, I'm not sure how to spell it, but I think Mormaer is the equivalent title. I'd like to be fairly powerful - slightly above average, but I've gone for a Duchy, based on the old Russian style (e.g the Grand Duchy of Muscovy, the Duchy of Lithuania, etc.) I may style myself Gyertsov, which is the old Russian equivalent of a Duke (nowadays it's Gertsog).
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Postby Austria and Her Possessions » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:43 am

Pawn and King wrote:Yes, I'd like to be fairly chummy with you. I believe thane is more like a Barony, if you're going with Scottish nobility, I'm not sure how to spell it, but I think Mormaer is the equivalent title. I'd like to be fairly powerful - slightly above average, but I've gone for a Duchy, based on the old Russian style (e.g the Grand Duchy of Muscovy, the Duchy of Lithuania, etc.) I may style myself Gyertsov, which is the old Russian equivalent of a Duke (nowadays it's Gertsog).


Ah, so if we were going to go down the route of being slighty different to most of the other nations, an invasion scenario would best explain it. I think I'm going to be a rather minor power, but it really depends upon the history of the Kingdom.

If it's the invasion scenario, then my ancestors could have given up a lot of land to retain their noble status, for example.
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Postby Pawn and King » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:57 am

Austria and Her Possessions wrote:
Pawn and King wrote:Yes, I'd like to be fairly chummy with you. I believe thane is more like a Barony, if you're going with Scottish nobility, I'm not sure how to spell it, but I think Mormaer is the equivalent title. I'd like to be fairly powerful - slightly above average, but I've gone for a Duchy, based on the old Russian style (e.g the Grand Duchy of Muscovy, the Duchy of Lithuania, etc.) I may style myself Gyertsov, which is the old Russian equivalent of a Duke (nowadays it's Gertsog).


Ah, so if we were going to go down the route of being slighty different to most of the other nations, an invasion scenario would best explain it. I think I'm going to be a rather minor power, but it really depends upon the history of the Kingdom.

If it's the invasion scenario, then my ancestors could have given up a lot of land to retain their noble status, for example.


Yeah - and perhaps my people were pushed back to the mountains after a series of defeats, and now largely inhabit the mountainous coastal region by the steppes (where they once came from). I can't wait to marry off a princess to your eldest son! I think, also, due to living in a mountainous area, I may base my economy around mining. Time to research 11th and 12th century mining techniques!
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Postby Austria and Her Possessions » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:04 am

Pawn and King wrote:
Yeah - and perhaps my people were pushed back to the mountains after a series of defeats, and now largely inhabit the mountainous coastal region by the steppes (where they once came from). I can't wait to marry off a princess to your eldest son! I think, also, due to living in a mountainous area, I may base my economy around mining. Time to research 11th and 12th century mining techniques!


As long as you're not regarded as a pariah by the other nations! You might see me as a sell-out, though, but this is all hypothetical. For example, I may wish to have any daughters marry into the other culture to reassure them that I'm on their side; marrying one of your daughters may be regarded as threatening by the others, but it depends how friendly you are with them.

Hm, early mining would have just been bell-pits, and most iron would be found in bogs.
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