Medieval RP Saga, Interest & OOC

[Ceannairceach]

What will be the mixed cultures, precisely, gain? Wasn't it Celtic, Anglo-Saxon, and Slavic, or something along those lines?

Also, what I meant by different sects of the religion were varying practices. Like the differences between Coptic Christians, Catholics, Arians, and whatnot. Would those be allowed, or would the dominant religion not have schismed slightly to allow for variation between practices?

Start a bit more simply and have nepotism in your clergy or have the various religious brotherhoods vieing for influence.

I was thinking along those lines, but coupled with some of the practices being based on older religions more so than the standard.

[Ossurwald]

Before this rapidly gets out of control, I want to reiterate that I'd like for there to be a sort of unitary culture, not like six disparate cultures that have almost next to no relation to each other. Yes, there's certainly different cultures in Europe during this time, but they're at least somewhat similar, especially in areas where they border one another.

Religion is also a large part of that, I believe, even with the ongoing practice of paganism in this time period. There's no sense in underestimating how powerful the Church was, both in international politics (if you can call it that) and in daily life.

What will be the mixed cultures, precisely, gain? Wasn't it Celtic, Anglo-Saxon, and Slavic, or something along those lines?

Also, what I meant by different sects of the religion were varying practices. Like the differences between Coptic Christians, Catholics, Arians, and whatnot. Would those be allowed, or would the dominant religion not have schismed slightly to allow for variation between practices?

That's sort of a discussion for the whole region. I'm leaning towards a sort of Anglo-Saxon-Celtic sort of culture which defeated a Slavic native culture.

[Ceannairceach]

What will be the mixed cultures, precisely, gain? Wasn't it Celtic, Anglo-Saxon, and Slavic, or something along those lines?

Also, what I meant by different sects of the religion were varying practices. Like the differences between Coptic Christians, Catholics, Arians, and whatnot. Would those be allowed, or would the dominant religion not have schismed slightly to allow for variation between practices?

That's sort of a discussion for the whole region. I'm leaning towards a sort of Anglo-Saxon-Celtic sort of culture which defeated a Slavic native culture.

Ah, very well. I certainly support that idea.

[Spiral Sun]

What will be the mixed cultures, precisely, gain? Wasn't it Celtic, Anglo-Saxon, and Slavic, or something along those lines?

Also, what I meant by different sects of the religion were varying practices. Like the differences between Coptic Christians, Catholics, Arians, and whatnot. Would those be allowed, or would the dominant religion not have schismed slightly to allow for variation between practices?

That's sort of a discussion for the whole region. I'm leaning towards a sort of Anglo-Saxon-Celtic sort of culture which defeated a Slavic native culture.

Hmmm, depends on what time period you would be refering to. Would be interest to see the Viking Norman/Norsemens of the west and the Viking Varangians of the east facing off. Are we having any groups come from over the seas, like how almost all the Angles left mainland Europe for Britain? We might also want to decide about the climate of this area, which parts of the coast are prone to storms or something like the Gulf Stream, as well deciding on the exact size of this land.

[Phalnia]

Just wondering was anyone interested in sharing the steppes in the North East?

[Spiral Sun]

-Snip- As for setting, I do kinda prefer temperate settings to deserts myself. -Snip-

I don't want the whole place to be a desert, just my own little sandy corner.

Which sort of desert?`Would you be content with having the area by turned into one by marauders sowing the land with salt or inefficient farming?

[Ceannairceach]

That's sort of a discussion for the whole region. I'm leaning towards a sort of Anglo-Saxon-Celtic sort of culture which defeated a Slavic native culture.

Hmmm, depends on what time period you would be refering to. Would be interest to see the Viking Norman/Norsemens of the west and the Viking Varangians of the east facing off. Are we having any groups come from over the seas, like how almost all the Angles left mainland Europe for Britain? We might also want to decide about the climate of this area, which parts of the coast are prone to storms or something like the Gulf Stream, as well deciding on the exact size of this land.

Considering the existence of steppes, I would vote that our climate be similar to that of New Zealand, as to maximize the different climate possibilities.

[Phalnia]

I don't want the whole place to be a desert, just my own little sandy corner.

Which sort of desert?`Would you be content with having the area by turned into one by marauders sowing the land with salt or inefficient farming?

We already decided that it would instead be steppes.

[Ossurwald]

Oi, Spiral Sun, make an app.

[Hungramy]

Nation name:Hungramy
Family name:Toth
Head of family:Istvan Toth
Family seat:Eger
Proposed name of holdings:Pecs
Aimed for level of power (select one): Kingdom
Links to 3 RPs or alternatively, a strong RP excerpt example:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?ns=1&f=5&t=146447#p7383265
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=146447&p=7387596#p7387596
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=142289< One of my more werid RPs i did.

[Mereshka]

Spiral suns DID raise an interesting question. If we're vying for kingship, how would that be settled? Are we in an elective monarchy? Or would it simply be whoever can become powerful enough?

[Spiral Sun]

Oi, Spiral Sun, make an app.

I am thinking that I may wish to wait a bit to see exactly what sort of culture we are going to have before I can solidify it. For all I know I might become a hermit that only leaves his sacred goats when crowning the first person to get to him with a shiny hat.

[Ossurwald]

Nation name:Hungramy
Family name:Toth
Head of family:Istvan Toth
Family seat:Eger
Proposed name of holdings:Pecs
Aimed for level of power (select one): Kingdom
Links to 3 RPs or alternatively, a strong RP excerpt example:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?ns=1&f=5&t=146447#p7383265
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=146447&p=7387596#p7387596
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=142289< One of my more werid RPs i did.

Do you have, or could you write up a paragraph that shows strong characterization? Because those are more letters/news reports, and as much as the former is important in any RP, it's important in this specific RP that you can write characters.

[Ossurwald]

Oi, Spiral Sun, make an app.

I am thinking that I may wish to wait a bit to see exactly what sort of culture we are going to have before I can solidify it. For all I know I might become a hermit that only leaves his sacred goats when crowning the first person to get to him with a shiny hat.

The RP examples are the most important part. Just leave the aimed for level of power blank.

[Hungramy]

Nation name:Hungramy
Family name:Toth
Head of family:Istvan Toth
Family seat:Eger
Proposed name of holdings:Pecs
Aimed for level of power (select one): Kingdom
Links to 3 RPs or alternatively, a strong RP excerpt example:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?ns=1&f=5&t=146447#p7383265
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=146447&p=7387596#p7387596
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=142289< One of my more werid RPs i did.

Do you have, or could you write up a paragraph that shows strong characterization? Because those are more letters/news reports, and as much as the former is important in any RP, it's important in this specific RP that you can write characters.

Other then that i'm in right? Ok, if you don't mind i'll do my example here then and i'll get right too it in a moment.

[Osteia]

I would like to lay claim to this area, It has everything my people will need.

http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy10 ... laim-1.jpg

[Ossurwald]

Do you have, or could you write up a paragraph that shows strong characterization? Because those are more letters/news reports, and as much as the former is important in any RP, it's important in this specific RP that you can write characters.

Other then that i'm in right? Ok, if you don't mind i'll do my example here then and i'll get right too it in a moment.

Well, yeah, although I'm gonna bump you down to Duke. I don't think "Kingdom" is something I should've put up there. At present, we don't have a king.

[Hungramy]

Other then that i'm in right? Ok, if you don't mind i'll do my example here then and i'll get right too it in a moment.

Well, yeah, although I'm gonna bump you down to Duke. I don't think "Kingdom" is something I should've put up there. At present, we don't have a king.

Alright. and i'll do my character example later, my internet bar keeps going down futher and futher, so if you don't mind i'm going to get off for now before my internet is gone. See ya.

[Spiral Sun]

Nation name: Ecclesiastical States
Family name: Judge
Head of family: His Awesomeness, The Patriarch
Family seat: Trinity Square, Dopobarba
Proposed name of holdings:
Aimed for level of power (select one): Duchy/County/Kingdom/March/Barony
Links to 3 RPs or alternatively, a strong RP excerpt example: Most of my work is from alternatehistory.com, but haven't been there for a bit and they closed the roleplay area to the public. For the record, the below is from when Japan had managed to get out of isolation, unify itself, and conquer most of East Asia within three years, before the American Revolution.

Over a Period, 1777

South China
The Italian and Austrian booths gave the sailors interest, if only because the people were technically white. While most of their papers where of little interest, some of the German speakers had purchased some of the more classical peaces for their little semi-public library. During this time they mentioned to the Catholic merchants how they might want to check out the services(religious sermons) that the Marylanders and Acadians gave.

Inner Provinces.
''Blasted, someone was going to have a finger removed! The horrid wooden cannons someone claimed the Quakers and Pirate Dwarfs favored was one thing, but iron ones had no excuse to burst like this!' The local militia man looked over the village's cannon, burst like a firework. "We'll have a better chance of defending ourselfs by simply firing darts from bamboo stocks!" He exclaimed as more logs were brought in to be disguised as cannons until more real ones could be found. He didn't even know what they could do with what remained. It was black metal which the smiths seemed to avoid for good blades. Maybe they could get some hammers for war and peace made from it, or have it be made into a shorter cannon.

Near Mongol Border.
"Seriously, they want peace?" This was not in the plans. The officers were increasinly unsure of what to do. Regain the Han lands and rest of the Empire by force? Bow to the whims of the foreignors in exchange for their rightful return? Simply invade with a million men armed with blades, muskets, cannon, and their secret weapons? But they couldn't do that alone. "We can hardly just march across the border on our own-" The lower officer did not cut off at the deathly glares by the Han nationalists but continued "-not that we couldn't wipe away those before us, there is simply too much of our ground to retake without having the other armies marching at the same time." This was true, it was begrudiingly agreed, though some thought all of China would simply rise if they crossed the cease-fire line. Unlikely. "Should we send news to the Southern Capital, asking for further instructions? I do not wish to have them cut off our supply of gunpowder halfway through the campaigne.

Omani Africa
"Why didn't they put up buildings before we came?" The former Fuijian fisherman was was not to pleased, having to try helping the carpenters set up living quarters for the migrants, his Ming dialect not lending itself to easilly understandin all the orders.. He didn't particularly want to be here, but with the Japanese on the one hand, the pirates on another, and the warlords on a third, there was little chance he could both catch fish then find a safe place to sell them without having being sunk or having his catch and ship taken "for the war effort". He was able to avoid bankruptcy and being thrown into the streets or massive debtor mines by instead 'investing' his boat and property into a colonial venture.

Why didn't they just use the Blacks to build? He had been to the ports where the Southern Barbarians were. They did all the crummier jobs. Was this too complicated for them? Why did the Southern Barbarians even employ them? They were frightening.

While the man was aware of it, he did not know why amongst the dozens who ceased to show up for work each week went. Plenty where starving, dieing in accidents, and disease. But the others were being raided from north, west, and south. From the west came tribes to try to scare off the Sinaeans, as their deals with the Muscati had lead to an increased demand for slaves from certain areas for the sole reason of emptying the lands. When a few of the slave raiding tribes began to disappear the others took note and began to fear as the pale men with the braided hair moved ever more inland along the coast and banks of the Rufiji River.

From the north came Somali and Arab slavers not liking how the flooding of the market with new slaves was saturating the market, though they saw something interesting about the Chinese. They were exotic. They had skills. They were free game. Settlements saw their women and children kidnapped for harems and houses of the wealthy in the Ottoman and European lands. Some villages of Chinese had begun to do what many had done individually, but now en masse. They went native. A popular choice seemed to be to mingle with the Somali to gain from their immunity to slaving, assisting in farmering and craftswork in exchange for protection from slavery. And who were the Somali to say no to some free labor?

From the South... Some Boers and Portuguese. Some Chinese colonial officials had taken to doing "requests", for the sort of people to next drive into indentured servitude and have hauled over from China. Some didn't even wait until the end, apparently hijacking ships filled with settlers to the Spice Islands to give them workers. This was at times helped and hindered by the Yanquii, depending on whether they had been from the New England Ports reliant upon the Triangle Trade or if they were the inland settlers of the Middle Colonies, pacifists, abolitionist, and segregationist. The extremeist Christian ones aboard some ships had taken to just imagining horrible things would happen to all the Chinese, despite news on them having barely made it back from it's multi-month voyage, and had began to speak to them in shoddy Chinese what would happen to them. This led to more than a few mutinies en route, and abandonment of the voyages to settle where they landed, such as unclaimed lands south of Siam, Celebes, and Maluku Utara, with a few other areas that look promising.

In the Maldives
"Shouldn't the next group have arrived by now?" The dock workers were busy doing not much at the moment. They had been waiting for the next Chinese junks to arrive from the Andaman Islands, not knowing whether or not things would get back into a pattern. The last few had just bipassed the islands, deciding to head to Lakshadweep so that they could take a quick jump off at the India coast before moving on to Socotra. If so, higher ups would get a bit less content, as the Mahra Sultan likely wouldn't like having the "guests" on his islands to be trapped their when the monsoons came without them having trading goods and gifts to make their time stuck on the island more bearable.

Hopefully something other than the Sinaeans attempting to collect as much coral as they could before being dashed against the rocks. Some of coolies in the current island chains where themselves waiting for the next ship over. Sponge and pearl diving where all fine and dandy, but some people had back in the Middle Kingdom and in lands of the Franks had begun paying good money for anything "different". Coral, sea urchins, shells, exotic fish... The most was being paid for the freshest of stuff. Hard to keep frsh though, unless one went to the new resturant complex that was apparently being build out of coral on Socotra. "Ship!" The coolies scrambled to their stations, paying little attention to why the ship was coming from the south...

[Ossurwald]

Nation name: Ecclesiastical States
Family name: Judge
Head of family: His Awesomeness
Family seat: Trinity Square, Dopobarba
Proposed name of holdings:
Aimed for level of power (select one): Duchy/County/Kingdom/March/Barony
Links to 3 RPs or alternatively, a strong RP excerpt example: Most of my work is from alternatehistory.com, but haven't been there for a bit and they closed the roleplay area to the public. For the record, the below is from when Japan had managed to get out of isolation, unify itself, and conquer most of East Asia within three years, before the American Revolution.

Over a Period, 1777

South China
The Italian and Austrian booths gave the sailors interest, if only because the people were technically white. While most of their papers where of little interest, some of the German speakers had purchased some of the more classical peaces for their little semi-public library. During this time they mentioned to the Catholic merchants how they might want to check out the services(religious sermons) that the Marylanders and Acadians gave.

Inner Provinces.
''Blasted, someone was going to have a finger removed! The horrid wooden cannons someone claimed the Quakers and Pirate Dwarfs favored was one thing, but iron ones had no excuse to burst like this!' The local militia man looked over the village's cannon, burst like a firework. "We'll have a better chance of defending ourselfs by simply firing darts from bamboo stocks!" He exclaimed as more logs were brought in to be disguised as cannons until more real ones could be found. He didn't even know what they could do with what remained. It was black metal which the smiths seemed to avoid for good blades. Maybe they could get some hammers for war and peace made from it, or have it be made into a shorter cannon.

Near Mongol Border.
"Seriously, they want peace?" This was not in the plans. The officers were increasinly unsure of what to do. Regain the Han lands and rest of the Empire by force? Bow to the whims of the foreignors in exchange for their rightful return? Simply invade with a million men armed with blades, muskets, cannon, and their secret weapons? But they couldn't do that alone. "We can hardly just march across the border on our own-" The lower officer did not cut off at the deathly glares by the Han nationalists but continued "-not that we couldn't wipe away those before us, there is simply too much of our ground to retake without having the other armies marching at the same time." This was true, it was begrudiingly agreed, though some thought all of China would simply rise if they crossed the cease-fire line. Unlikely. "Should we send news to the Southern Capital, asking for further instructions? I do not wish to have them cut off our supply of gunpowder halfway through the campaigne.

Omani Africa
"Why didn't they put up buildings before we came?" The former Fuijian fisherman was was not to pleased, having to try helping the carpenters set up living quarters for the migrants, his Ming dialect not lending itself to easilly understandin all the orders.. He didn't particularly want to be here, but with the Japanese on the one hand, the pirates on another, and the warlords on a third, there was little chance he could both catch fish then find a safe place to sell them without having being sunk or having his catch and ship taken "for the war effort". He was able to avoid bankruptcy and being thrown into the streets or massive debtor mines by instead 'investing' his boat and property into a colonial venture.

Why didn't they just use the Blacks to build? He had been to the ports where the Southern Barbarians were. They did all the crummier jobs. Was this too complicated for them? Why did the Southern Barbarians even employ them? They were frightening.

While the man was aware of it, he did not know why amongst the dozens who ceased to show up for work each week went. Plenty where starving, dieing in accidents, and disease. But the others were being raided from north, west, and south. From the west came tribes to try to scare off the Sinaeans, as their deals with the Muscati had lead to an increased demand for slaves from certain areas for the sole reason of emptying the lands. When a few of the slave raiding tribes began to disappear the others took note and began to fear as the pale men with the braided hair moved ever more inland along the coast and banks of the Rufiji River.

From the north came Somali and Arab slavers not liking how the flooding of the market with new slaves was saturating the market, though they saw something interesting about the Chinese. They were exotic. They had skills. They were free game. Settlements saw their women and children kidnapped for harems and houses of the wealthy in the Ottoman and European lands. Some villages of Chinese had begun to do what many had done individually, but now en masse. They went native. A popular choice seemed to be to mingle with the Somali to gain from their immunity to slaving, assisting in farmering and craftswork in exchange for protection from slavery. And who were the Somali to say no to some free labor?

From the South... Some Boers and Portuguese. Some Chinese colonial officials had taken to doing "requests", for the sort of people to next drive into indentured servitude and have hauled over from China. Some didn't even wait until the end, apparently hijacking ships filled with settlers to the Spice Islands to give them workers. This was at times helped and hindered by the Yanquii, depending on whether they had been from the New England Ports reliant upon the Triangle Trade or if they were the inland settlers of the Middle Colonies, pacifists, abolitionist, and segregationist. The extremeist Christian ones aboard some ships had taken to just imagining horrible things would happen to all the Chinese, despite news on them having barely made it back from it's multi-month voyage, and had began to speak to them in shoddy Chinese what would happen to them. This led to more than a few mutinies en route, and abandonment of the voyages to settle where they landed, such as unclaimed lands south of Siam, Celebes, and Maluku Utara, with a few other areas that look promising.

In the Maldives
"Shouldn't the next group have arrived by now?" The dock workers were busy doing not much at the moment. They had been waiting for the next Chinese junks to arrive from the Andaman Islands, not knowing whether or not things would get back into a pattern. The last few had just bipassed the islands, deciding to head to Lakshadweep so that they could take a quick jump off at the India coast before moving on to Socotra. If so, higher ups would get a bit less content, as the Mahra Sultan likely wouldn't like having the "guests" on his islands to be trapped their when the monsoons came without them having trading goods and gifts to make their time stuck on the island more bearable.

Hopefully something other than the Sinaeans attempting to collect as much coral as they could before being dashed against the rocks. Some of coolies in the current island chains where themselves waiting for the next ship over. Sponge and pearl diving where all fine and dandy, but some people had back in the Middle Kingdom and in lands of the Franks had begun paying good money for anything "different". Coral, sea urchins, shells, exotic fish... The most was being paid for the freshest of stuff. Hard to keep frsh though, unless one went to the new resturant complex that was apparently being build out of coral on Socotra. "Ship!" The coolies scrambled to their stations, paying little attention to why the ship was coming from the south...

A bit broader than I like, but alright, welcome aboard.

[Phalnia]

Head of family: His Awesomeness

His Awesomeness?

[Spiral Sun]

Head of family: His Awesomeness

His Awesomeness?

A placeholder. They used awesome centuries ago for those that where pratically growing in power or splendour. I was considering His Reverence, but I need to decide on if he is more of a local man or a religious powerhouse.

[Pawn and King]

Just wondering was anyone interested in sharing the steppes in the North East?

I'd have liked to, it'd have been fun to have early Cossack/Mongolian cavalry. I've got an island by you, but apart from that, I'm in the mountains to your south, buddy.

Spiral suns DID raise an interesting question. If we're vying for kingship, how would that be settled? Are we in an elective monarchy? Or would it simply be whoever can become powerful enough?

I imagine this to be very similar to early Britain, where there were main rulers, such as Mercia, Northumberland, Wessex, etc, who vied for power until a dominant force emerged.

Oi, Spiral Sun, make an app.

I am thinking that I may wish to wait a bit to see exactly what sort of culture we are going to have before I can solidify it. For all I know I might become a hermit that only leaves his sacred goats when crowning the first person to get to him with a shiny hat.

Hm. Well, as I'm based on Slavic cultures, I'd only subscribe to this religion if it were the Native religion. Otherwise I'll keep my old Gods.

[Spiral Sun]

Hm. Well, as I'm based on Slavic cultures, I'd only subscribe to this religion if it were the Native religion. Otherwise I'll keep my old Gods.

Could be interesting. The Khazars and Rus did shop around for their religion so we could have that be taken into account. Will you be having it so your people or ruler decides the religion? Also, talking about what religion we are haivng in the region's area. You can find the link there.

[Brennertal]

Hm. Well, as I'm based on Slavic cultures, I'd only subscribe to this religion if it were the Native religion. Otherwise I'll keep my old Gods.

The leaders of Brennertal, the Family Vlado, would probably have signed up to the invader's religion in order to please them, but it would be early days yet for the people they ruled over. Unless of course the religion had already spread to the islands before they were conquered, and it's not so much of an issue.

The way I see it, the major powers of the region are going to start fighting for leadership of this recently conquered land, with different families pledging allegiance to certain sides. Some may choose to restore the former greatness of Talahame before the invasion, while others will look to impose their own hegemony, deserved or not.

Either way, I know that the Vlados aren't going to end up in charge; they're not powerful enough any more.

Spiral Sun, your application has a nation name that isn't 'Spiral Sun'; I was under the impression that we are all different landholders within the one kingdom, not seperate kingdoms a la Holy Roman Empire.