Dark Harvest II: War Hawks With Frickin' Lasers [ATTN DH1]

[The Ctan]

I am Cyash, Lady of the Necrontyr. Know that thy defeat was assuredly ordained, as all things are, and as is said in the bible given to you by your ancestors, in the second book of Chronicles:

The Lord, the God of their ancestors, sent word to them through his messengers again and again, because he had pity on his people and on his dwelling place. But they mocked God’s messengers, despised his words and scoffed at his prophets until the wrath of the Lord was aroused against his people and there was no remedy. He brought up against them the king of the Babylonians, who killed their young men with the sword in the sanctuary, and did not spare young men or young women, the elderly or the infirm. God gave them all into the hands of Nebuchadnezzar. He carried to Babylon all the articles from the temple of God, both large and small, and the treasures of the Lord’s temple and the treasures of the king and his officials. They set fire to God’s temple and broke down the wall of Jerusalem; they burned all the palaces and destroyed everything of value there.

Behold that I am no Nebuchadnezzar, but rather closer to Cyrus, my namesake, I shall not despoil your temples, nor shall I slay you out of hand. I shall however, explain in full why thy god has seen fit to place you into my hands. There are many among you who think that the will of the Creator is to oppress others, deny them their ways and take them into persecution, be it homosexuals, nekomimi, or any other type of personage who does not do murder and iniquity upon others.

Your pride and refusal to admit your errors, and make peace with the Greater Pony Herd, whose war with you was only declared upon your assault upon their ambassadors and your great plans to do murder. You surely knew that to set all things in rightness was your duty, and yet, as Achan the son of Zerah trespassed against the Lord by keeping an accursed thing from the city of Jericho against the express will of the Lord, so you have kept up the ways of the Dark Harvest and in so doing, defied the implicit will of the Lord thy God and so allowed thy kingdom to become accursed in the eyes of the Creator.

You generals shall lead the march, and shall have placed upon your necks the hooves of Senator Corona and Twilight of the Greater Pony Herd, as Joshua Judge of the Israelites bade his captains do unto the Amorite kings. But behold that I am merciful, and I shall not demand that you be hanged for your iniquities.

You shall march with not less than thirty thousand warriors of your armies, equipped with full weapons and vehicles unto the city of Gerry, where you will be disarmed and your weapons melted down into ingots that will be used only for agricultural equipment for your people. Then you shall march upon foot back from Gerry to your great city of Jonesboro, and three times around that city, yourselves wearing bronze shackles, and then, we shall enter the city of Jonesboro, and assess for ourselves the treasures of that city, and one third shall be offered outside the city in a burnt offering to the Creator, one part taken to treasuries of the Thurasid Dynasty, and a third part used to build a new place in Jonesboro to honour the God of Mercy who has given Turtleshroom into my hands.

In the city of Jonesboro I shall cause to be built a new cathedral honouring the Lord that has raised up the Necrontyr to teach you the error of your pride and your cruelties, and we shall specify its form within the proscriptions of your God, and we shall also in that city cause to be created a great monument to our victories over you, in the form of a pyramid that you shall not easily become stiff-necked and prideful again and once more think that the Lord is not able to lay you low at His leisure.

Furthermore shall the City of Gerry become forever ours to govern as we see fit, as you stole it in iniquity and falsehood, so shall it be taken from you forevermore.

Then we shall negotiate new terms of a new treaty of peace between yourselves, the Necrontyr Empire, and the Greater Pony Herd, and the levies and monies we will have further from you, and of the new laws that you must pass upon all those in your domain to end the inquiries of state-enforced racism, of false imprisonment and of a multiplicity of other wicked persecutions that you have done.

Recall though that we are merciful, and in all these things if you return to the path of purity laid out for you by the Lord thy God and do worship in thy ways without persecuting others unduly and unjustly, and do pay this tribute and make amends as we specify, the many captives we have taken from your people shall be returned, save only those judges we have slain for corrupting the Natural Laws given by God, who have been put to death.

This is the proclamation of Cyash, Lady of the Thurasid Dynasty, and of the Necrontyr: So let it be written, so let it be done.

[TurtleShroom]

{OOC: Whew, that's a long list of demands. IC-ly, I can not, in any way, permit the repeal of John Raven or the homosexual laws, the nekos, etc. etc., because they are core to my next story and my nation's continuity. However, everything else, from Gerry to the ceremonies to the "Abomination That Causes Desolation" (the Necrontyr Temple and its accompanying pyramid) will be done. This post marks the start of Dark Harvest III.}


Chapter complete!

[The Ctan]

OOC: The Pyramid will be a seperate construct from the 'temple' the 'temple' will in fact be a legitimate Catholic cathedral of Jesus Christ, not some funky necron religion. The Pyramid on the other hand, will be a secular 'we were here' slap in the face.

[TurtleShroom]

OOC: The Pyramid will be a seperate construct from the 'temple' the 'temple' will in fact be a legitimate Catholic cathedral of Jesus Christ, not some funky necron religion. The Pyramid on the other hand, will be a secular 'we were here' slap in the face.

OOC: Yeah, I got the pyramid, but TurtleShroom isn't compared to Texas for nothing, and them thar Southern accents ain't just fuh show, ya know.
Even in surrender, the TurtleShroomers hang on to their honor just like the fallen Confederates did (Western example) or Japan until the bomb on Nagasaki. TS is going Oriental in a lot of ways; this, however, is because the RL culture of the deep South has incredible paralells to Japan or any number of Eastern nations.
Remember, the nation of TS is too proud to ever worship in the "Necron Temple", even if itʻs supposed to be Christian. There's already the majestic Oakwood Cathedral for Cardinal Icfella's seat, and for the chosen archbishops of the capital.
The pyramid is comparable to the Dome of the Rock in Israel. It was planted there by invading occupiers (on the very rubble of the Holy Second Temple destroyed in the 70s AD) and is loathed by the natives. The citizenry will forever twist the "Necron Cathedral" into a Satanic den of sin and vice.
Also, I hope you understand about the segregation and law changes. Changing those would change a key plot device in my next adventure after DH III.

[The Ctan]

OOC: Indeed, though I think it'd be better if you came up with ways to do them anyways, despite my proscriptions, we'll see what happens. Also... I LOLed at your flag.

[Urmanian]

IC-ly, I can not, in any way, permit the repeal of John Raven or the homosexual laws, the nekos, etc. etc.

OOC: No offense and I understand the wish for the oppression to remain for the sake of the story, but I do hope that you and your nation understand what does "surrender" mean. To draw RL parallels that would be like Nazi Germany going "fine guys, we surrender, can we go back to burning the jews now?" or indeed, Imperial Japan signing the surrender documents aboard USS Missouri and then proceeding to rape Nanking like nothing happened.

[TurtleShroom]

IC-ly, I can not, in any way, permit the repeal of John Raven or the homosexual laws, the nekos, etc. etc.

OOC: No offense and I understand the wish for the oppression to remain for the sake of the story, but I do hope that you and your nation understand what does "surrender" mean. To draw RL parallels that would be like Nazi Germany going "fine guys, we surrender, can we go back to burning the jews now?" or indeed, Imperial Japan signing the surrender documents aboard USS Missouri and then proceeding to rape Nanking like nothing happened.

OOC: That makes sense. However, TurtleShroom is entering into what's called "surrendering with honor", not an Unconditional Surrender. Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany surrendered unconditionally, which allowed the winner to do ANYTHING. TurtleShroom, under the laws of war, still has some say (See here.). What I mean is that the temple and the pyramid will go up, the reparations and tribute rackets will be enacted, Gerry will be gone, and all the other things the C'Tan want. TurtleShroom still has pride and hates the winner of this war. It's all about negotiating, though TS is heavilly disadvantaged and has little weight. (-and indeed, tread lightly, or the war would restart.)

[Menelmacar]

OOC: That makes sense. However, TurtleShroom is entering into what's called "surrendering with honor", not an Unconditional Surrender. Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany surrendered unconditionally, which allowed the winner to do ANYTHING. TurtleShroom, under the laws of war, still has some say (See here.).

Well, if we're considering Wikipedia an authoritative source (and we shouldn't, but whatev), then I will direct you to this passage:

"When the parties agree to terms, the surrender may be conditional, i.e. if the surrendering party promises to submit only after the victor makes certain promises."

I don't recall any agreement to terms or certain promises prior to the TurtleShroomian surrender, though if one exists and I have missed it I would welcome a link thereto. Failing to secure such promises prior to issuing a surrender makes the surrender unconditional.

I can't speak for C'tan of course, but I suspect that a surrender on the condition that Cyash give your government a pass on basically all the principles she was fighting for to begin with is not one she would reasonably accept.

Of course, if you and C'tan have worked something out behind the scenes, just ignore this post.

[The Ctan]

OOC: Well, we shall negotiate. And if we don't like the terms offered, and cannot persuade them to be reasonable, the stabbing will recommence.

[TurtleShroom]

Well, if we're considering Wikipedia an authoritative source

OOC: Rule CI of the Internet: Citing Wikipedia at any time results in forfeiture of the points argued.

OOC: I wasn't, but I didn't really see anything else.

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OOC: As for the C'Tan and the TurtleShroomers' peace, I think all the C'Tan want is their initial casus belli; they want peace with their nation and with the Urmanians. They now want to erect a giant pyramid just outside of Jonesboro and plunder a third of the capital's resources, as well as obtaining total sovereingty over Gerry, in addition to a humiliating march of defeat by thirty thousand TurtleShroomian soldiers and the melting down of their equivalent's worth of weaponry.
As shameful and humiliating as it is, TurtleShroom has no choice but to fully comply with the agony of stinging defeat.