Lost Age OCC Discussion Thread [Former Ceaden Thread]

[Arcerion]

Still here but currently going through finals week and have not had the time to develop a thread really. So if you want to put my nation on vacation mode until May 16 then I will be finished with school and I will have the time to Rp. Thank you for understanding.

Okay, it will be on vacation mode till you are back.
Are you still planning on genociding your old demographics?

Oh the ways of Caeden...

[Lakota]

I think this is the info I need to give. I think.

Base Resources:
# of Stone: 150
# of Iron: 1759
# of Steel: 0
# of Carbon: 400
# of Wood: 15136
# of Gold: 150
# of Silver: 200
# of Oils: 2864
# of Earth Sweat: 400



Large Stone Walled Settlement (Hiradem): 300
Medium Stone Walled Settlement (Ahn'Karah): 200
Small Stone Walled Settlement (Fen'Zha): 100
Small Stone Fortress: (Jien'Zha): 50
300 Miles of Stone Road: 300
Stone Outpost (Tiej): 25
Stone Outpost (Hanei): 25

Medium Wooden Walled Settlement (Fahlane): 200
Wooden Fortress (Zenn): 100
Wooden Fortress (Reyda): 100
Wooden Fortress (Lunis): 100
Wooden Outpost (Estell): 25
Wooden Outpost (Sei): 25
Wooden Outpost (Kun): 25

Total Stone Used: 1100
Total Wood Used: 575

[Tavok]

Am I supposed to receive a base for my focus map, or just have at it? Or am I supposed to start the initial RP first?

[Numer]

I was planning on expanding, but it seems like there is a lot going on, and I don't want to put too much on anyone's plate. Do the moderators suggest I hold on until the map situation is cleared up or when there is less activity, or are we go for launch?

Also, I had idea the other day that I would like to run by you guys. Of course, I can't even afford one right now, but I just want to have the Numerians' contribute to the art of war . I'll just assume that so far they are only used as an alternative travel form in Numer.

Numerian Zeppelin
DES: This massive flying/aerial warships can be used for both warfare and transportation. They are very expensive and difficult to build, however, they are quite powerful. Originated in Numer. http://ealdent.files.wordpress.com/2007 ... .jpg?w=614
SPE: 500 miles a day
FLY: Y
STR: 150
PAX: 100
VAL: 60,000
PAY: 30,000
RES: 200 Wood, 200 Oils, 100 Iron

I want to give it some modifications (ballistas, etc.) so it can attack by itself, but I just need to work on the costs of those. Thoughts?

[Lakota]

I was planning on expanding, but it seems like there is a lot going on, and I don't want to put too much on anyone's plate. Do the moderators suggest I hold on until the map situation is cleared up or when there is less activity, or are we go for launch?

Also, I had idea the other day that I would like to run by you guys. Of course, I can't even afford one right now, but I just want to have the Numerians' contribute to the art of war . I'll just assume that so far they are only used as an alternative travel form in Numer.

Numerian Zeppelin
DES: This massive flying/aerial warships can be used for both warfare and transportation. They are very expensive and difficult to build, however, they are quite powerful. Originated in Numer. http://ealdent.files.wordpress.com/2007 ... .jpg?w=614
SPE: 500 miles a day
FLY: Y
STR: 150
PAX: 100
VAL: 60,000
PAY: 30,000
RES: 200 Wood, 200 Oils, 100 Iron

I want to give it some modifications (ballistas, etc.) so it can attack by itself, but I just need to work on the costs of those. Thoughts?

Woah... That, Numer, is beautiful . I need to hire some of those!

[Numer]

I was planning on expanding, but it seems like there is a lot going on, and I don't want to put too much on anyone's plate. Do the moderators suggest I hold on until the map situation is cleared up or when there is less activity, or are we go for launch?

Also, I had idea the other day that I would like to run by you guys. Of course, I can't even afford one right now, but I just want to have the Numerians' contribute to the art of war . I'll just assume that so far they are only used as an alternative travel form in Numer.

Numerian Zeppelin
DES: This massive flying/aerial warships can be used for both warfare and transportation. They are very expensive and difficult to build, however, they are quite powerful. Originated in Numer. http://ealdent.files.wordpress.com/2007 ... .jpg?w=614
SPE: 500 miles a day
FLY: Y
STR: 150
PAX: 100
VAL: 60,000
PAY: 30,000
RES: 200 Wood, 200 Oils, 100 Iron

I want to give it some modifications (ballistas, etc.) so it can attack by itself, but I just need to work on the costs of those. Thoughts?

Woah... That, Numer, is beautiful . I need to hire some of those!

Thanks , you can feel free hire these and my navy as a mercenary army for your expansion if you decide to. I kind of think of this as Numer's answer to dragons.

[Tuthina]

Am I supposed to receive a base for my focus map, or just have at it? Or am I supposed to start the initial RP first?

Well, you can draw a rough map and give it to the mods, so that we can procure a focus map for you. In general, it is not going to change much in most circumstances, so you can do both at the same time.

[Tuthina]

I was planning on expanding, but it seems like there is a lot going on, and I don't want to put too much on anyone's plate. Do the moderators suggest I hold on until the map situation is cleared up or when there is less activity, or are we go for launch?

Also, I had idea the other day that I would like to run by you guys. Of course, I can't even afford one right now, but I just want to have the Numerians' contribute to the art of war . I'll just assume that so far they are only used as an alternative travel form in Numer.

Numerian Zeppelin
DES: This massive flying/aerial warships can be used for both warfare and transportation. They are very expensive and difficult to build, however, they are quite powerful. Originated in Numer. http://ealdent.files.wordpress.com/2007 ... .jpg?w=614
SPE: 500 miles a day
FLY: Y
STR: 150
PAX: 100
VAL: 60,000
PAY: 30,000
RES: 200 Wood, 200 Oils, 100 Iron

I want to give it some modifications (ballistas, etc.) so it can attack by itself, but I just need to work on the costs of those. Thoughts?

About the expansion, currently I am a bit busy, with two expansion moderated by me and one of myself, so I don't think I can moderate it. (Which is a shame, since I do have a proper enemy for your Zeppelins... Love live Sega.) However, you can still start it if you wish, and I hope someone out there would be able to moderate it.

About the Zeps, it seems quite nice, although I suppose the main weapon you need the most for now would be something to drop on your earth-bound enemies, such as the oil bombs or something like that.

[Tuthina]

I think this is the info I need to give. I think.

Base Resources:
# of Stone: 150
# of Iron: 1759
# of Steel: 0
# of Carbon: 400
# of Wood: 15136
# of Gold: 150
# of Silver: 200
# of Oils: 2864
# of Earth Sweat: 400

(Image)

Large Stone Walled Settlement (Hiradem): 300
Medium Stone Walled Settlement (Ahn'Karah): 200
Small Stone Walled Settlement (Fen'Zha): 100
Small Stone Fortress: (Jien'Zha): 50
300 Miles of Stone Road: 300
Stone Outpost (Tiej): 25
Stone Outpost (Hanei): 25

Medium Wooden Walled Settlement (Fahlane): 200
Wooden Fortress (Zenn): 100
Wooden Fortress (Reyda): 100
Wooden Fortress (Lunis): 100
Wooden Outpost (Estell): 25
Wooden Outpost (Sei): 25
Wooden Outpost (Kun): 25

Total Stone Used: 1100
Total Wood Used: 575

I still need to total unit cost, current credit, as well as tax rate of yours. That should be the only thing you left out.

[The knights of kings]

Well ive been thinking about trying to help out around here...So if no one has an objections I can moderate for Numer. Ive been actualy reading the other expansion threads to get a better idea so I would do my very best to make it fair and fun! So Tuthina if your alright with it and so is Numer let his expansion begin!

[Tuthina]

Well ive been thinking about trying to help out around here...So if no one has an objections I can moderate for Numer. Ive been actualy reading the other expansion threads to get a better idea so I would do my very best to make it fair and fun! So Tuthina if your alright with it and so is Numer let his expansion begin!

Well, I don't see any problem for that, so you two are free to procure whatever lying in that land.
It would be better if it was a good species to enslave, though.

[Lakota]

What do you mean by tax rate? Do you mean pay? Right now, I'm making 0 credits, so I can give the other info needed:

Total Unit Cost: 63000 credits

Total Credits: -63000 credits

Crud, this is not good. How can I get credits again ?

[Numer]

What do you mean by tax rate? Do you mean pay? Right now, I'm making 0 credits, so I can give the other info needed:

Total Unit Cost: 63000 credits

Total Credits: -63000 credits

Crud, this is not good. How can I get credits again ?

Alright, so many of the improvements on your land, as well as the land itself, creates your PPC. Mine is 22.25, and I have a population of 12,094, so my annual GDP is 269,091.50 Credits. That represents all the business done in my land not the money in my treasury (my income). To calculate how much you are actually making, you multiply your GDP by your tax rate. Let's just use me as an example again; 269,091.50 x .25 (my tax rate is 25%) to get my annual income of 67,272.88 . Obviously, I would not be able to afford my military if it were just this, so the resources I have saved help balance out my debt to actually let me have a profit. This is all described in the rules, under Economy. Hope I helped!

[Lakota]

Okay then. Apparently my GDP is 20.975 (Argh, that last .025%!), the total GDP is 52437.5, and my tax rate is 33% (Do we get to choose tax rates?), so I'm left with 17479 credits. And all of it goes to my military . This is going to take a while to pay, even with the resource bonus.

How can I increase my population? I really need more workers to pay this off. Hopefully I'm allowed to be in debt?

[Numer]

Okay then. Apparently my GDP is 20.975 (Argh, that last .025%!), the total GDP is 52437.5, and my tax rate is 33% (Do we get to choose tax rates?), so I'm left with 17479 credits. And all of it goes to my military . This is going to take a while to pay, even with the resource bonus.

How can I increase my population? I really need more workers to pay this off. Hopefully I'm allowed to be in debt?

They're are numerous ways to increase one's population. Conquering another land is one (population's probably the main reason I'm expanding), sacrificing morality and tapping into the slave market is another, and crossing your fingers each IC year hoping that you're people had a lot of children this time around ( ). When you're in debt, your savings in your treasury (the leftover from your initial 5,000,000) pay it off until you run out. No one so far has been in so much debt that they've been literally broke, but think about how nations today deal with it. Perhaps you can try to reach out to other nations (although that means you owe another country money, which generally isn't good) or face the music and cut down your military.

[Tavok]

I was planning on expanding, but it seems like there is a lot going on, and I don't want to put too much on anyone's plate. Do the moderators suggest I hold on until the map situation is cleared up or when there is less activity, or are we go for launch?

Also, I had idea the other day that I would like to run by you guys. Of course, I can't even afford one right now, but I just want to have the Numerians' contribute to the art of war . I'll just assume that so far they are only used as an alternative travel form in Numer.

Numerian Zeppelin
DES: This massive flying/aerial warships can be used for both warfare and transportation. They are very expensive and difficult to build, however, they are quite powerful. Originated in Numer. http://ealdent.files.wordpress.com/2007 ... .jpg?w=614
SPE: 500 miles a day
FLY: Y
STR: 150
PAX: 100
VAL: 60,000
PAY: 30,000
RES: 200 Wood, 200 Oils, 100 Iron

I want to give it some modifications (ballistas, etc.) so it can attack by itself, but I just need to work on the costs of those. Thoughts?

I know I'm a noob here, but I just thought I'd throw my two cents in...

I think 500 is WAY too fast for this thing. Is a blimp really gonna match a dragon in speed? I feel like 300 is more reasonable, so it still stays around twice as fast as the quickest horse-rider. Even at 300 it'll become a somewhat ubiquitous transport, uniquely able to ferry large numbers of soldiers very quickly to anywhere in the world, across land or sea. Also, I don't know whether the flying-dodge bonuses are meant to apply to everything that flies, but giving this thing those bonuses would be absolutely absurd (I can't see it dodging anything at all). As for attacking, I'm thinking large firebombs (to be dropped) and ballistae make the most sense.

[Numer]

I was planning on expanding, but it seems like there is a lot going on, and I don't want to put too much on anyone's plate. Do the moderators suggest I hold on until the map situation is cleared up or when there is less activity, or are we go for launch?

Also, I had idea the other day that I would like to run by you guys. Of course, I can't even afford one right now, but I just want to have the Numerians' contribute to the art of war . I'll just assume that so far they are only used as an alternative travel form in Numer.

Numerian Zeppelin
DES: This massive flying/aerial warships can be used for both warfare and transportation. They are very expensive and difficult to build, however, they are quite powerful. Originated in Numer. http://ealdent.files.wordpress.com/2007 ... .jpg?w=614
SPE: 500 miles a day
FLY: Y
STR: 150
PAX: 100
VAL: 60,000
PAY: 30,000
RES: 200 Wood, 200 Oils, 100 Iron

I want to give it some modifications (ballistas, etc.) so it can attack by itself, but I just need to work on the costs of those. Thoughts?

I know I'm a noob here, but I just thought I'd throw my two cents in...

I think 500 is WAY too fast for this thing. Is a blimp really gonna match a dragon in speed? I feel like 300 is more reasonable, so it still stays around twice as fast as the quickest horse-rider. Even at 300 it'll become a somewhat ubiquitous transport, uniquely able to ferry large numbers of soldiers very quickly to anywhere in the world, across land or sea. Also, I don't know whether the flying-dodge bonuses are meant to apply to everything that flies, but giving this thing those bonuses would be absolutely absurd (I can't see it dodging anything at all). As for attacking, I'm thinking large firebombs (to be dropped) and ballistae make the most sense.

I was planning on expanding, but it seems like there is a lot going on, and I don't want to put too much on anyone's plate. Do the moderators suggest I hold on until the map situation is cleared up or when there is less activity, or are we go for launch?

Also, I had idea the other day that I would like to run by you guys. Of course, I can't even afford one right now, but I just want to have the Numerians' contribute to the art of war . I'll just assume that so far they are only used as an alternative travel form in Numer.

Numerian Zeppelin
DES: This massive flying/aerial warships can be used for both warfare and transportation. They are very expensive and difficult to build, however, they are quite powerful. Originated in Numer. http://ealdent.files.wordpress.com/2007 ... .jpg?w=614
SPE: 500 miles a day
FLY: Y
STR: 150
PAX: 100
VAL: 60,000
PAY: 30,000
RES: 200 Wood, 200 Oils, 100 Iron

I want to give it some modifications (ballistas, etc.) so it can attack by itself, but I just need to work on the costs of those. Thoughts?

I know I'm a noob here, but I just thought I'd throw my two cents in...

I think 500 is WAY too fast for this thing. Is a blimp really gonna match a dragon in speed? I feel like 300 is more reasonable, so it still stays around twice as fast as the quickest horse-rider. Even at 300 it'll become a somewhat ubiquitous transport, uniquely able to ferry large numbers of soldiers very quickly to anywhere in the world, across land or sea. Also, I don't know whether the flying-dodge bonuses are meant to apply to everything that flies, but giving this thing those bonuses would be absolutely absurd (I can't see it dodging anything at all). As for attacking, I'm thinking large firebombs (to be dropped) and ballistae make the most sense.

The standard flying speed for Ceaden is 500 miles a day; Just because it doesn't have wings doesn't mean it can't go fast, complicated machinery allows it to propel itself forward at very high speeds (we're not necessarily talking about a RL blimp, it's a fantasy vessel); however, I see your point, if the moderators think it too much, I'll change it. Also, the bonuses are not because the flying object "dodges" (the vehicle does not necessarily have to be dodging the assaults, as I'll explain); it represents the difficulty of medieval bows and arrows would have to get the trajectory and power to launch the arrow at the target. And instead of dodging arrows the vessel has an iron bottom (100 Iron) to protect it from said arrows. Are you trying to say that hitting a vessel that appears hundreds of feet directly above you and looks only like a small silver/black oval is easy? While its pouring down oil and weapons of its own? While the weather alters appearance? I know this sounds really overly-powerful, but maybe it's because the resources I am putting into it is not enough;I recognize I'll most definitely have to increase PAY and VAL, and add much more resources. Besides, I am only planning on having one in response to other nation's dragons.

[Numer]

Actually Tavok, you got me thinking...I think I might scratch the whole zeppelin idea entirely, for multiple reasons. For instance, the idea of a zeppelin seems too steampunk and unrealistic for ceaden (yes, I know magic is unrealistic , but we've using it is a realistic way, if that makes sense). I think that I'd rather just builf up my navy instead, as I'd rather see a realistic medieval/classical-esque ( also Game of Thrones-like, shout out to you Arcerion) fantasy world than steampunk fantasy. Basically, let's just pretend it didn't happen.

[Arcerion]

( also Game of Thrones-like, shout out to you Arcerion)

This is why it pays to have fellow GoT'ers in Caeden.

Me and Numer, GoT fans to the end.

[Tavok]

Actually Tavok, you got me thinking...I think I might scratch the whole zeppelin idea entirely, for multiple reasons. For instance, the idea of a zeppelin seems too steampunk and unrealistic for ceaden (yes, I know magic is unrealistic , but we've using it is a realistic way, if that makes sense). I think that I'd rather just builf up my navy instead, as I'd rather see a realistic medieval/classical-esque ( also Game of Thrones-like, shout out to you Arcerion) fantasy world than steampunk fantasy. Basically, let's just pretend it didn't happen.

Sorry, I didn't mean to cause any offense. My inner dislike of the idea must have leaked through more than I had intended. I think this may be best though. Personally I like to see naval vessels maintaining dominance in the realm of transportation and trade, if only because large, reliable airships would complicate the whole dynamic drastically.

( also Game of Thrones-like, shout out to you Arcerion)

This is why it pays to have fellow GoT'ers in Caeden.

Me and Numer, GoT fans to the end.

Love that show! It's great that no one's a perfect hero or clear winner. Lord Baelish and Bronn are my personal favorites. And Qarth is the best city.

[Tuthina]

Actually Tavok, you got me thinking...I think I might scratch the whole zeppelin idea entirely, for multiple reasons. For instance, the idea of a zeppelin seems too steampunk and unrealistic for ceaden (yes, I know magic is unrealistic , but we've using it is a realistic way, if that makes sense). I think that I'd rather just builf up my navy instead, as I'd rather see a realistic medieval/classical-esque ( also Game of Thrones-like, shout out to you Arcerion) fantasy world than steampunk fantasy. Basically, let's just pretend it didn't happen.

To be fair, you can always create some sort of magic stone to provide the lifting force you need.

[Tuthina]

Game Year Bonus for Saffriana:

Game Year Bonuses

Treasury before end of 3 Ceaden: 2,482,000 Credits

GDP for 4 Ceaden: 185,276 Credits
Taxes: 33% (+61,141.08 Credits)
Military Expenditures: -31,500 Credits

Unused Resource Bonuses:
Stone: + 336.8 Credits
Iron: + 3,867.6 Credits
Steel: +0 Credits
Carbon: + 909.8 Credits
Wood: + 17,922.4 Credits
Gold: + 27,132 Credits
Silver: + 24,632 Credits
Oils: + 8,511.2 Credits
Earth Sweat: + 12,201.4 Credit

Total Unused Resource Bonuses: + 125,154.28 Credits

Treasury as of 5 Ceaden: 2,607,154.28 Credits

Stone Regeneration: 186.8
Iron Regeneration: 174.8
Carbon Regeneration: 54.9
Wood Regeneration: 2,786.4
Silver Regeneration: 46.32
Gold Regeneration: 30.88
Earth Sweat Regeneration: 210.07
Oil Regeneration: 1,391.6

Structure Regeneration:

Birth Rate:
Current Population: 10,000
Awaiting Random Number Generated by Moderator.

Random number: [b]5 (+5%)

[Tavok]

Actually Tavok, you got me thinking...I think I might scratch the whole zeppelin idea entirely, for multiple reasons. For instance, the idea of a zeppelin seems too steampunk and unrealistic for ceaden (yes, I know magic is unrealistic , but we've using it is a realistic way, if that makes sense). I think that I'd rather just builf up my navy instead, as I'd rather see a realistic medieval/classical-esque ( also Game of Thrones-like, shout out to you Arcerion) fantasy world than steampunk fantasy. Basically, let's just pretend it didn't happen.

To be fair, you can always create some sort of magic stone to provide the lifting force you need.

One magic stone providing the lifting force and propulsion for a behemoth like that? I think that stone might be better used reducing cities to dust with all that power.

[Tuthina]

One magic stone providing the lifting force and propulsion for a behemoth like that? I think that stone might be better used reducing cities to dust with all that power.

Well, the first airship I envisioned would be no larger than a lifeboat of several people, since this size is enough to provide scouting and maybe makeshift weapons for the crew. The stone would probably be torso-sized or something like that. People will enlarge both of them once they started to fight aerial combat.

Or, you know, we ride dragons instead.

[The knights of kings]

Ah I liked the flying boat idea! Regardless Lakota your on a pretty small island so I can imagine the population and army price being a struggle. But ive got future plans for alot of us once my current expansion is over. If all goes well there will be lots of slaves...