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Postby North Orus » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:13 am

The knights of kings wrote:Cant wait until the war actualy starts going.


We just need to wait until Alissia and Neo Arcad visit. I sent TGs to them.

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Postby The knights of kings » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:27 am

Then lets hope they come soon.

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Postby Trivval » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:29 am

Wow, I'm smack bang right in the middle of where this conflict is going to begin.

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Postby Arkotania » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:34 am

Trivval wrote:
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Im going to troll the hell out of your border boundaries with my infantry :)

Come at me, I have geography like Switzerland and my military hasn't a need for a navy - so I do suppose I can field more soldiers per capita than any other nation here.

The the highest level of naval technology we have is coastal(defense)/rivers(patrol) and that's pretty small, not to mention that we don't really have a coast and probably no rivers. I'll need to prepare a list of military formation to save myself the trouble of having to explain troops when i could simply use (X Division,Y Brigade etc.).
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Oh, you crazy Muslim you!

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Postby The Halseyist Faction » Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:13 am

Hi Hi!

Sorry, personal troubles, etc. My fault. Back in reality now!

Assuming by Alissia, you mean me, I'd like to note the information on the front page is slightly entirely wrong. (Leader, population, etc.) The clue's in the name after all, The Alissian Empire is ruled by Queen Alissa II, after all.

I'd hesitate on calling it an elective monarchy too. It's more Napoleonic British, than it is WW1 British, so the Queen and Royal family/Lords have an awful lot more power than the genuinely democratically elected government. A Constitutional Monarchy is the best name for it.

Originally she was supposed to be a small empire too. Relatively small land mass, but with various annexed colonies upon the mainland. I notice on the new map I've gone from four small islands too two big ones, but also lost both the Colonies of Norfolk and Arcadia.

If that's the case, it'll take me a while to rewrite all the relevant notes. (Army size and composition, setup, history, government, aims and objectives technology and so forth).
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Postby Burkia » Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:40 pm

You would place the Fascist Monarchy right next to the Socialistic Democracy, lol.
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Postby The Halseyist Faction » Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:47 pm

Burkia wrote:You would place the Fascist Monarchy right next to the Socialistic Democracy, lol.


I didn't think Fascists liked Monarchy's very much? Mussolini had a somewhat strained relationship with the king if I recall... *goes to brush up on history.*
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Postby North Orus » Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:23 pm

The Halseyist Faction wrote:Hi Hi!

Sorry, personal troubles, etc. My fault. Back in reality now!

Assuming by Alissia, you mean me, I'd like to note the information on the front page is slightly entirely wrong. (Leader, population, etc.) The clue's in the name after all, The Alissian Empire is ruled by Queen Alissa II, after all.

I'd hesitate on calling it an elective monarchy too. It's more Napoleonic British, than it is WW1 British, so the Queen and Royal family/Lords have an awful lot more power than the genuinely democratically elected government. A Constitutional Monarchy is the best name for it.

Originally she was supposed to be a small empire too. Relatively small land mass, but with various annexed colonies upon the mainland. I notice on the new map I've gone from four small islands too two big ones, but also lost both the Colonies of Norfolk and Arcadia.

If that's the case, it'll take me a while to rewrite all the relevant notes. (Army size and composition, setup, history, government, aims and objectives technology and so forth).


Yea, sorry. But you do have one colony in the south.

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Postby New Eteria » Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:47 pm

woohoo im gonna be right in the middle of all the action
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Postby The Halseyist Faction » Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:09 pm

North Orus wrote:
The Halseyist Faction wrote:Hi Hi!

Sorry, personal troubles, etc. My fault. Back in reality now!

Assuming by Alissia, you mean me, I'd like to note the information on the front page is slightly entirely wrong. (Leader, population, etc.) The clue's in the name after all, The Alissian Empire is ruled by Queen Alissa II, after all.

I'd hesitate on calling it an elective monarchy too. It's more Napoleonic British, than it is WW1 British, so the Queen and Royal family/Lords have an awful lot more power than the genuinely democratically elected government. A Constitutional Monarchy is the best name for it.

Originally she was supposed to be a small empire too. Relatively small land mass, but with various annexed colonies upon the mainland. I notice on the new map I've gone from four small islands too two big ones, but also lost both the Colonies of Norfolk and Arcadia.

If that's the case, it'll take me a while to rewrite all the relevant notes. (Army size and composition, setup, history, government, aims and objectives technology and so forth).


Yea, sorry. But you do have one colony in the south.


I'll see what I can do to post a re-write up tomorrow then. Bedtime soon or I'd do it tonight.
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Postby Old Beringia » Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:27 pm

Burkia wrote:You would place the Fascist Monarchy right next to the Socialistic Democracy, lol.

That's me, but at the time fascism didn't exist within Beringia. Just your average monarchy.

As far as alliances go I'd have to ally myself with Neo Arcadia.
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Postby North Orus » Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:27 pm

So who will be attacking who?

Alissia could send a naval fleet to Prinnia while Neo Arcad could attack New E. Then Golandia could invade Trivval, and North Orus could support everyone else.

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Postby New Eteria » Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:41 pm

Now once Neo arrives i can work on a post
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=180384&p=9364819#p9364819

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Postby The Halseyist Faction » Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:45 pm

I intent to play an somewhat ethically sound reactive war. Focusing on who is 'Right'.

At the same time, Alissia is still a former Imperialist power, and may have claims to certain territories it might wish to recover...

Either way, outlay the causes of war and I can let you know Alissa's opening acts.
It'll probably be quite defensive at first. I'm thinking abusing their naval superiority to cripple everyone nearby's distance trading, sizing merchant shipping and turning back civilian (non merchant vessels).

Should they have a particular party they both already support and feel is attacked unfairly they may well send an expeditionary force to assist then.
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Postby North Orus » Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:59 pm

Updated the main page and added the prologue. I'll post it here as well.

une 14, 1914
Neo Arcadian police capture a New Eterian spy in the Arcadian capital city. Arcadian citizens are furious as the story becomes public. They soon learn that the spy had intentions in assassinating an Arcadian governor, and the public becomes more enraged.

June 15, 1914
The New Eterian government requests the immediate release of the spy, but Neo Arcad refuses enraging the Eterian public as well. War hungry military generals on both sides try and make their case and declare war.

June 16, 1914
The New Eterian government sends an ultimatum to Neo Arcad demanding the release of the spy and declares a deadline of July 1.

June 20, 1914
The spy has yet to be released, and hate ensues in the general public. Several cases of Eterian civilians in Arcad being murdered with their houses and shops ransacked have been reported.

July 1, 1914
An Alissian lord is shot and killed outside of his home. The murderers are pursued but escape by Alissian police. Alissia, an ally of Neo Arcad, suspects New Eteria of the assassination. The spy in Neo Arcad is not released and Eteria mobilizes its army.

July 3, 1914
Two Prinnian men are stopped at a boat in Alissia travelling to the Prinnian colony. The men have a rifle and several empty casings. They claim to have been hunting in southern Alissia, but they are arested anyway. Neo Arcad mobilizes its army in response to Eteria's.

July 6, 1914
The Prinnian assassination conspiracy gains support and Alissian generals hawk the Queen to declare war on Prinnia and New Eteria for fear of an iminent invasion. With the pressure from both the public and officials she is forced to do so. The Alissian Empire declares war on Prinnia and New Eteria.

July 7, 1914
New Eteria and Prinnia declare war on Neo Arcad and Prinnia begins to mobilize its army.

July 10, 1914
North Orus begins to mobilize its massive army and it declares support for New Eteria and Prinnia. Meanwhile, Golandia, seeing a chance, suddenly declares war on Trivval. The reason being land taken from Golandia many years ago by the Trivvalians.

So, are there any changes I need to make?

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Postby New Eteria » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:01 pm

all the parts involving me seem good
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Postby The knights of kings » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:11 pm

sounds good!

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Postby North Orus » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:17 pm

So will you invade Neo Arcad or vice versa?

And what about you tKoK? Will you send a fleet to Alissia?

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Postby The Halseyist Faction » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:39 pm

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June 14, 1914
Neo Arcadian police capture a New Eterian citizen in the Arcadian capital city, Matthew Jones. He is accused of spying. Arcadian citizens are furious as the story becomes public. Furthermore, claims are made that Jones has confessed he was part of a conspiracy to assassinate the Mayor of the Capital. Outraged the citizens demand a full public trail of the accused.

June 15, 1914
The New Eterian government requests the immediate release of their citizen citing the lack of any evidence what so ever that the accused is a spy of any sort, and likewise accusing the Arcadians of torture, but Neo Arcad refuses enraging the Eterian public as well. Leading Eterian generals begin drawing up plans to insert a small covert force to recover Jones. Meanwhile the Arcadians vastly increase their border security.

June 16, 1914
The New Eterian government sends an ultimatum to Neo Arcad demanding the release of Matthew Jones, failure to comply will result in him being sized by force.

June 20, 1914
Matthew Jones is found dead in his cell. The government claims he took his own life, but rumors are abound that he was excuted by a mock military tribunal for crimes against the people. A massive backlash strikes from the citizen of New Eteria over the murder of their presumed innocent citizen. Several members of the public take justice in their own hands, and the Arcadian Ambassadors Residence is burnt to the ground. In the Chaos, the Ambassador himself is accidentally killed by the mob, although his wife flees the country.

July 1, 1914
Meanwhile in the Alissian Empire, Lord Francis Forthsycthe, the Queen's cousin is shot dead in the grounds of his estate seemingly at random. Members of the local constabulary chase several suspects from the scene but are unable to catch them, a policeman is shot and killed during the chase.
In responce to Jones' death the New Eterian Army deploys to it's borders, matching the increased numbers of Arcadian troops already there. The Ambassador's wife calls for revenge and justice as she narrowly escapes being arrested at the border. A tense standoff between respective border detachments is broken when a soldier loses his nerves and a skirmish breaks out. Over a dozen are killed on both side before clamer heads prevail. Both accuse the other of firing the first shot.
Paranoid, both sides begin organising their armed forces.

July 3, 1914
The Alissian constabulary successfully arrests three men attempting to flee the country. While they claim to be innocent, they were found in possession of unlicensed and used firearms, and Prinnian Passports. They claim to be poachers, hunting seals.
The situation between New Eteria and Neo Arcadia worsens as another border skirmish occures when several private citizens attempt to cross the border 'Fleeing persecution.' Beliving they are further spies, Arcadian troops open fire and the Eterians intervene. Another twenty souls lose their lives including three Eterian civilians.

July 6, 1914
The individuals responsible for Lord Forthscythes assassination are found to have vanished from their cell. Outrage flies around the royal family. Figures in the intelligence community point the figure at Prinna and a underhanded assassination attempt in response to Lord Forthscythe's outspoken anti Prinnan stance.

July 7, 1914
After due consultation, Eteria demands free passage for all Eterian citizens from Neo Arcadian territory and their right to station troops within Arcadia to ensure their rights are observed. Furthermore they demand the withdrawal of 'Provocative trigger happy troops' from their borders. Their request is refused the same day.
In responce Eteria declares war on Neo Arcadia vowing to annex the Eterian border segments in which Eterian citizens are known to live. - FIghting breaks out all along the border, and both sides call to the public for volunteers.
Bound by it's treaty of mutual defense with Eteria, Prinnia reluctantly also declares war on Neo Arcadia and begins massing it's own forces.
Alissia, horrified by the sudden outbreak of war on the continent. Declare's it's intention to intervene and calls for an emergency summit between the powers involved. Lord Chessington, Alissia's Ambassador to Prinna attempts to host the meeting.

July 9th, 1914.
Lord Chessington is found dead in his home. Prinnian police claim they have no idea how it happened. Without him, the peace conference collapses before it even began as the first Prinnian troops begin to moblise for war. Already hundreds lie dead at the Eterian/Arcadian border and young men flock to the banner of war in their countries name.
In a tearful speech to the nation, Queen Alissa II vows that there will be 'Peace in our Time.'
She demands an immediate cessation of hostilities by new Prinnia, and the withdrawal of Eterian forces from Arcadian soil.
Her demands go unanswered, and so on the midnight of the 10th of July, Alissia declares war on Eteria and Prinna.

July 10, 1914
North Orus begins to mobilize its massive army and it declares support for New Eteria and Prinnia. Meanwhile, Golandia, seeing a chance, suddenly declares war on Trivval - In responce, The Alissian Empire declares war on Golandia as well 'In defense of freedom and future'
The reason being land taken from Golandia many years ago by the Trivvalians.
The Alissian Royal navy sets sail from port, taking up position on the high seas.
On land, the Alissian respective Royal and Imperial Armies begin to moblise - And Alissian troops stationed in their colony (Norfolk) bordering Goldandia rush to man border forts.


(How's that?)


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Postby New Eteria » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:49 pm

I like it
now come on neo so we can start the war
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Postby The Halseyist Faction » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:32 pm

Nitpicking -

I can't read any of the names on the map that sneak into the water. Can we have a different coloured font, or a different coloured ocean?

I can't find Prinna on the map. Where am I looking wrong?

The Alissian Colony is called 'Norfolk'

Can we have a bigger map? Not with more space on it or anything. Just generally 'Bigger' so that I can doodle on it without having to blow it up first. Oh! And can the current map have an official scale on it (I'd vote for miles, but kilometers will do.)

I see we've got tons of mountains, but no other geographical features. In particular heavy woods/jungle and most importantly rivers are vital geographical features, particularly for low technology warfare.

General Questions -

Is anyone interested in either begin a current puppet state for Alissia (A semi independent nation that retains it's own government but that is ultimately both responsible and loyal to the Alissian crown) or a former colony of Alissia (either a loyal one that was released, or one that we lost for whichever reason.)


Secondly,

I'd like to propose a tech tree!

We'll write up a list of technologies, and everyone will get an equal number of them they can pick at the start. Then for every say, month that passes IC, (or every three months, whichever) everyone can add one more to their list.

That'll settle arguements before they begin, and allow everyone to diversify in different ways.
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Postby The knights of kings » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:42 pm

The Halseyist Faction wrote:Nitpicking -

I can't read any of the names on the map that sneak into the water. Can we have a different coloured font, or a different coloured ocean?

I can't find Prinna on the map. Where am I looking wrong?

The Alissian Colony is called 'Norfolk'

Can we have a bigger map? Not with more space on it or anything. Just generally 'Bigger' so that I can doodle on it without having to blow it up first. Oh! And can the current map have an official scale on it (I'd vote for miles, but kilometers will do.)

I see we've got tons of mountains, but no other geographical features. In particular heavy woods/jungle and most importantly rivers are vital geographical features, particularly for low technology warfare.

General Questions -

Is anyone interested in either begin a current puppet state for Alissia (A semi independent nation that retains it's own government but that is ultimately both responsible and loyal to the Alissian crown) or a former colony of Alissia (either a loyal one that was released, or one that we lost for whichever reason.)


Secondly,

I'd like to propose a tech tree!

We'll write up a list of technologies, and everyone will get an equal number of them they can pick at the start. Then for every say, month that passes IC, (or every three months, whichever) everyone can add one more to their list.

That'll settle arguements before they begin, and allow everyone to diversify in different ways.


I am willing to send a fleet to Alissia or something in that nature. Anyways Prinnia is on the map under the name Tkok which is "The knights of Kings" he is just using my actual nation name. Though in the Rp I will be refered to as Prinnia. PLus I love the idea of a tech tree!

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Postby The Halseyist Faction » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:47 pm

Ah! Your Prinna. Jolly good. That makes things interesting, given your proximity.

Can we have the nations on the nation map labled by their actual IC names then? That'll make things a bit clearer.

There's going to be some serious naval combat in the opening months of the war, methinks... More likely more than their was in the actual first world war.
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Postby North Orus » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:57 pm

The Halseyist Faction wrote:Nitpicking -

I can't read any of the names on the map that sneak into the water. Can we have a different coloured font, or a different coloured ocean?


I can't find Prinna on the map. Where am I looking wrong?

The Alissian Colony is called 'Norfolk'


I can try to make those changes, but I only have paint to do it with. :lol:

Can we have a bigger map? Not with more space on it or anything. Just generally 'Bigger' so that I can doodle on it without having to blow it up first. Oh! And can the current map have an official scale on it (I'd vote for miles, but kilometers will do.)


We can't really have a bigger map, because Nationstates allows a 600px limit, and I think this is at 590px. I think we decided the scale was either 1 cm = 50km or 1 cm = 100km. Either way, I'm bad at the metric system. But I think this continent will be about the size of Asia.

I see we've got tons of mountains, but no other geographical features. In particular heavy woods/jungle and most importantly rivers are vital geographical features, particularly for low technology warfare.


We do have some rivers and lakes, but I didn't really want to force geographical terrain on countries. Like Trivval wants to have a Switz terrain. I want to have a mountainous, arctic terrain. I just want everyone to decide on what they want. But then when they do, we can encorporate it into the map.

General Questions -

Is anyone interested in either begin a current puppet state for Alissia (A semi independent nation that retains it's own government but that is ultimately both responsible and loyal to the Alissian crown) or a former colony of Alissia (either a loyal one that was released, or one that we lost for whichever reason.)


I think that would be fine. Just don't make them huge or overpowered.

Secondly,

I'd like to propose a tech tree!

We'll write up a list of technologies, and everyone will get an equal number of them they can pick at the start. Then for every say, month that passes IC, (or every three months, whichever) everyone can add one more to their list.

That'll settle arguements before they begin, and allow everyone to diversify in different ways.


Sounds great.

I hope that answers some of your questions!

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Postby Old Beringia » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:13 pm

I believe there was a list of early 20th century technology in the last thread.
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