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Centraliza
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Postby Centraliza » Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:31 pm

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Postby Great Baltica » Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:33 pm

This is an almost comical affair.

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Postby The Shrailleeni Empire » Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:51 pm

From the Imperial Throne of Her Enlightened Majesty the Mother Empress Chella Resyanna fe Shrailleen;

Conducted through the office of the Matriarch of State Aryni Resyanna fe Shrailleen;

Dictated by Zattem Resbruck, Undersecretary to the Matriach
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General statement directed at Vincent De La Ross of the Drifting People's Republic of Centraliza,

The Empire would like to begin its statement by declaring nothing but respect for the honorable delegates and member nations of the WA. The cause of world peace and unity is a just one, and the Empire hopes for the sake of all WA member nations that their resolutions will always benefit those who have come together under WA rule.

However, as a non-WA member, the Empire has been troubled by a lack of parallel world peace organizations. While the views held by the majority of the WA nations clearly work for them, the Empire could never join an initiative which clearly ignores the rights of its minority members, here defined as those whose laws, governments, or cultures directly oppose WA mandated majority resolutions.

The Empire would love to join the world stage and promote the causes of peace, mutual trust, and understanding, and wishes that a global body existed which would respect Her sovereign rule. This being the case, the Empire sends this message in the hope that those currently disgruntled with the WA, or those who feel that joining would not benefit their nation, would consider building a parallel meeting of nation states to further promote global peace and understanding. The Shrailleeni Empire would love to join an organization which would both keep the peace, and respect the national sovereignty of those who did not agree with its resolutions.

To conclude, the Empire does not wish to condemn the WA, or to build a global body to oppose it. We merely wish to see a governing body which would work hand-in-hand with the WA, without subjecting its members to WA resolutions. As a young nation, we submit this suggestion with due respect and humility.

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Postby Arkania 5 » Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:38 pm

OOC; You know the WA is part of the NS game? You can't remove it physically.
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Postby Conclespia » Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:42 pm

We agree, for our nation was expelled for truly no reason nor were we informed of that rule.
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Postby Idealismania » Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:44 pm

Might I suggest the nations that condem the WA forming your own region? It might bring on a new interesting aspect to RP.

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Postby Domernicus » Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:47 pm

My nation joined the WA, because we thought that this would gives us a voice and protect our nation's soverign rights, but i soon quit after i went through its laws and we simply disagree with much such as legalizing prostitution and cutting our military powers.
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Postby Halforia » Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:18 pm

Domernicus wrote:My nation joined the WA, because we thought that this would gives us a voice and protect our nation's soverign rights, but i soon quit after i went through its laws and we simply disagree with much such as legalizing prostitution and cutting our military powers.



i am still in the WA now for what reason i don't know. my large next door ally left and has been constantly telling me why i should leave it. i now agree, i mean some of things they are pass are just ridiculous. who would come up with a thing to legalize prostitution? i mean seriously. they might as well legalize murder while they're at it.

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Postby Wazkyraque » Sat Oct 15, 2011 7:22 pm

Centraliza wrote:
Wazkyraque wrote:Are you serious?
...
You are?

- the yet-to-be-named-Wazkyraqi-delegate.

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Are you serious about your Anarchism?

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Postby Kleomentia » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:45 am

Centraliza wrote:
Kleomentia wrote:As a member of WA Kleomentia would like to know why are you scared of the WA? We are not NATO, we are a peacekeeping organization. We do not have a military force. The moment we get it, if we get it, then you should be scared. But not for now we are just a peacekeeping organization. You do not have to follow the laws of WA since you are not a member, why do you complain?
-Some Kleomentian Delegate

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We are not 'scared' of the World Assembly. We fear no one and nothing; such is Centralizan history in protecting our sovereignity.

Further, the WA are not peacekeepers. As The Reformed Federation of Alpha and Delta Pact pointed out, legalization of prostitution is not, in any way, 'peacekeeping'. It is a direct and rampart violation of a nation's sovereign duty to decide whatever or not to handle such issue.

Regarding your military: There is currently none, that is correct. But history has taught us well. What will happen when it's members openly challenge the World Assembly's authority to make it's rulings? What will happen once the World Assembly decide it is it's duty to bring it's 'peace' to the whole world?

We re-state, delegate. We are not afraid, for we do not fear the World Assembly. However, as a nation that preffers peace over war, the WA is slowly turning into a threat to the sovereign nations of the free world.

Legalizing prostitution makes you think that we shall make our own military force? And who is forcing you to accept the laws? If you do not like the laws you resign from the WA. You are not even affected by the laws as you are not a member of the WA. The WA has existed for many years now and it never got it's own force. Why did this thing come up your mind just because your nation had bad experience. We maybe aren't as much peacekeeping as we are making the world a better place. Even your proposal of making a new organization could go terribly wrong. And even if it doesn't the new organization could one day develop a military force of it's own. And it would be history all over again for you and hell for other nations.
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Postby TurtleShroom » Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:49 am

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Centraliza wrote:However, over time we have seen how good laws were repealed and not replaced by better versions. We have seen the degradation of the WA to the point that it literally forces doctors to accept circumsicion, a vile practice only a few religions follow, as a rightful medical practice.


Oh look, it's the "circumcision is mutilation and permanently traumatizes children" crowd.




Centraliza wrote:As we had predicted, the WA continues to sink in a deeper level of corruption, inefficiency, and overwhelming idiocity. How deep will it continue to sink? How long will it be before it tries to legalize things such as pedophilia, bribery, and narcotics?


We firmly agree with this nobel statement and am betting our bottom Skillet that drugs are next on their iron-fisted, forced legalization list. We call the WA "The Devil's Congregate".
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Postby United Arcadia » Sun Oct 16, 2011 6:42 am

TO: Vincent De La Ross
FROM: Thomas Syers - Secretary of State

First I wish to make it clear that United Arcadia is currently a non-member of the World Assembly. We choose not to be a member because we disagree with many of the laws that are proposed and passed. I agree that many good laws are repealed in the World Assembly and many bad ones are implemented. However I wish to point out to you that the WA is not holding a gun to your head forcing you to be a member. If you disagree then simply leave the assembly. No one will stop you.
As for your condemnation, I'm quite sure it will fall on deaf ears. Save your breath.
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Postby Reddevia II » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:20 am

Centraliza wrote:
Wazkyraque wrote:Are you serious?
...
You are?

- the yet-to-be-named-Wazkyraqi-delegate.

Delegate of the Drifting People's Republic of Centraliza,
Vincent De La Ross


Are you serious about your Anarchism?
Unilisia wrote:You are not in the WA, thus it doesn't affect your nation when the WA chooses to pass laws. Once again, you are not a member, you are not bound by any law it passes.

- Random Unilisia Diplomat

That is precisely our point. A honest body for non-WA nations do not exists. We feel a new organization ought to be created. The WA as it's stands runs the risk of becoming a expansionist force. Once it possess it's own military force, we doubt it will merely be used for "protection".



I do not disagree with Centraliza, but I also do not agree.

The fact of the matter is that the WA is meant for Diplomacy, and i'm sure most of the members of the WA is there for that reason. If the WA created an oppressive military force bill, it would not be passed. If it did pass, i'm sure most WA Members would leave them, as their purpose for joining was non-violent. The WA would be crippled, defeated, and destroyed, and i'm sure they understand that.

Also, I understand that the WA have passed some ridiculous and sickening laws, I will not deny that. Prosititution is illegal, immoral, and sick, as we all agree. Circumsisions are equally disgusting. So we somewhat condemn the WA, but we are not members of it, so we have no right to condemn. Also, the fact is that the WA is not corrupt, but maybe the nations in it are such. Think about that.
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Postby The Cookish States » Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:40 am

For far too long people have taken what they call the 'right' thing. But, they confuse right with laziness. They simply wish not to challenge a large community. What if, what if we began to strike the more active WA members with overwhelming force in order to show our discontent with the corrupt organization. They have no military organization, that is true, but how long do you think that'll last? A week? A year? Two years? There isn't a way to know, and so we must smash the serpents egg before it is hatched.
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Postby Unilisia » Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:40 pm

The Cookish States wrote:
For far too long people have taken what they call the 'right' thing. But, they confuse right with laziness. They simply wish not to challenge a large community. What if, what if we began to strike the more active WA members with overwhelming force in order to show our discontent with the corrupt organization. They have no military organization, that is true, but how long do you think that'll last? A week? A year? Two years? There isn't a way to know, and so we must smash the serpents egg before it is hatched.
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Postby Hive System » Sun Oct 16, 2011 9:37 pm

If I had hands I would take part in that action humans call "clapping." But this clapping would be sarcastic in nature to convey a strong feeling of amusement. This World Assembly has you outnumbered, outgunned, and will destroy this movement in a moment. From what I have learned in my short time in existence,humans, being the only sentient living organism I have been exposed to, can show surprising intelligence when alone or in small groups. Once they form in large groups, however, they lose most of that intelligence and start saying "Yes" to whoever is shouting the loudest. I'd say the best action you can take is leaving and not following these rules and regulations they pretend they can enforce. If you try to fight back and form a movement against them, it can only take one startled beast to have a whole stampede charge you.

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Postby Glasgia » Sun Oct 16, 2011 11:47 pm

You are either:
A) A meber of the WA passing a proposal to condemn themselves.
B) Not a member of the WA, so you can't make a proposal.

I agree that the WA is not perfect. However, it is a great organization and does not deserve condemnation.

If you don't like the laws, then resign.
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Postby Kleomentia » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:26 pm

Yes, but the probable percentage of the members that would vote for the making of WAs military force is 21%, if even that, so i do not think that there is currently any danger. And even if it those some day decades away from today develop a military force it would curely loose as there are tons of nations that are not in the WA and would surely win. Plus, most nations that are in the WA would leave it and then total war would come to the multiverse where the WA would loose. I see what you want to say but the probability of that is very low so i do not think we should worry.
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Postby Socialist States Owen » Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:06 am

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Postby Kleomentia » Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:13 pm

Centraliza wrote:
Kleomentia wrote:Yes, but the probable percentage of the members that would vote for the making of WAs military force is 21%, if even that, so i do not think that there is currently any danger. And even if it those some day decades away from today develop a military force it would curely loose as there are tons of nations that are not in the WA and would surely win. Plus, most nations that are in the WA would leave it and then total war would come to the multiverse where the WA would loose. I see what you want to say but the probability of that is very low so i do not think we should worry.
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What guarantee do you have of that number? For all we know the number could very well be 87%, if not more.

Provided, we understand your point, but the WA is also growing. Not only that, but if it could form a united military force, the individual armies of each nation will not be able to compete against the World Assembly's army.

Well, i see your point. This discussion for me will be closet now as the Holy Czar demanded. But hear this, if the WA should get it's own military force we shall momentarily leave it and be ready for a bloody battle.
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Postby Benutanairan » Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:01 pm

Its the possibilities not the actualization that is worrysome but thankfully its another era's dilemma
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Postby Crux Prime » Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:15 pm

The Dominion of Crux Prime, despite being a member of the WA, also agree that many of the actions of the WA are not worthy of an organization that wants to keep peace in the world. We should create a separate region or ask a game moderator to create a new organization, but I believe that this second option would be very difficult. So we should create a region-independent organization of the WA.
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