War of the Setting Sun [OOC, Closed]

[Empire of Symphonia]

The size and sudden appearance of your naval forces are abit confusing though, given how they've swanned past multiple fleets both Coalition and Dystopian to appear with a moment's notice just off the coast with enough ships to put Operation Overlord to shame. Heck, you haven't even got any sealift ships for those millions of troops your bringing, which also raises the question of how you'll bring all the big non-carrier capable aircraft.

Yeah......Quendi reminded me about that. I changed my troops to 4.5 million troops in total, though I'm sure the size of my forces (ships, marines, aircraft pilots, general infantry, etc) is realistic in that inavding Japan is going to be costly. Even in WWII, the USA forcasted that it would 1 millions troops from invading Japan, so I factored that in....plus the fact that GEIJD has a reputation of fighting harder than RL Japan did.

[Useful Daveia]

Yeah......Quendi reminded me about that. I changed my troops to 4.5 million troops in total, though I'm sure the size of my forces (ships, marines, aircraft pilots, general infantry, etc) is realistic in that inavding Japan is going to be costly. Even in WWII, the USA forcasted that it would 1 millions troops from invading Japan, so I factored that in....plus the fact that GEIJD has a reputation of fighting harder than RL Japan did.

Show me the sealift capability for 4.5 million troops in that.

Total Military Force: 2.5 million sailors
- 3x LLC Blue Ridge Class Command Ship
- 7x CVN Gerald R. Ford Class Supercarrier
- 360x F-35A Lightning IIs
- 20x X-47B (unmanned attack aircraft)
- 7x CVN Nitmiz Class Aircraft Carrier
- 360x F-35A Lightning IIs
- 20x Super Yamato Class Battleship
- 35x CG Ticonderoga Class Cruiser
- 40x LCS Independence Class Littoral Combat Ship
- 50x LCS Independence Class Destroyer
- 75x KD-III King Sejong the Great Class Destroyer
- 100x FFG Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigate
- 150x Inchon Class Frigate
- 150x Ulsan Class Frigate
- 100x MCM Avenger Class Minesweeper
- 200x SSN Virginia Class Nuclear Submarine
- 50x SSBN/SSGN Ohio Class Cruise Missile Submarine
- 100x Shang Class Nuclear Submarine

[Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia]

Yeah......Quendi reminded me about that. I changed my troops to 4.5 million troops in total, though I'm sure the size of my forces (ships, marines, aircraft pilots, general infantry, etc) is realistic in that inavding Japan is going to be costly. Even in WWII, the USA forcasted that it would 1 millions troops from invading Japan, so I factored that in....plus the fact that GEIJD has a reputation of fighting harder than RL Japan did.

Show me the sealift capability for 4.5 million troops in that.

Total Military Force: 2.5 million sailors
- 3x LLC Blue Ridge Class Command Ship
- 7x CVN Gerald R. Ford Class Supercarrier
- 360x F-35A Lightning IIs
- 20x X-47B (unmanned attack aircraft)
- 7x CVN Nitmiz Class Aircraft Carrier
- 360x F-35A Lightning IIs
- 20x Super Yamato Class Battleship
- 35x CG Ticonderoga Class Cruiser
- 40x LCS Independence Class Littoral Combat Ship
- 50x LCS Independence Class Destroyer
- 75x KD-III King Sejong the Great Class Destroyer
- 100x FFG Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigate
- 150x Inchon Class Frigate
- 150x Ulsan Class Frigate
- 100x MCM Avenger Class Minesweeper
- 200x SSN Virginia Class Nuclear Submarine
- 50x SSBN/SSGN Ohio Class Cruise Missile Submarine
- 100x Shang Class Nuclear Submarine

The landing crafts are missing.....so are the amphibious assault vessels.

[Bristain and Ireland]

WILL MY QUESTION BE ANSWERED OR NOT?

[Empire of Symphonia]

Yeah......Quendi reminded me about that. I changed my troops to 4.5 million troops in total, though I'm sure the size of my forces (ships, marines, aircraft pilots, general infantry, etc) is realistic in that inavding Japan is going to be costly. Even in WWII, the USA forcasted that it would 1 millions troops from invading Japan, so I factored that in....plus the fact that GEIJD has a reputation of fighting harder than RL Japan did.

Show me the sealift capability for 4.5 million troops in that.

Total Military Force: 2.5 million sailors
- 3x LLC Blue Ridge Class Command Ship
- 7x CVN Gerald R. Ford Class Supercarrier
- 360x F-35A Lightning IIs
- 20x X-47B (unmanned attack aircraft)
- 7x CVN Nitmiz Class Aircraft Carrier
- 360x F-35A Lightning IIs
- 20x Super Yamato Class Battleship
- 35x CG Ticonderoga Class Cruiser
- 40x LCS Independence Class Littoral Combat Ship
- 50x LCS Independence Class Destroyer
- 75x KD-III King Sejong the Great Class Destroyer
- 100x FFG Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigate
- 150x Inchon Class Frigate
- 150x Ulsan Class Frigate
- 100x MCM Avenger Class Minesweeper
- 200x SSN Virginia Class Nuclear Submarine
- 50x SSBN/SSGN Ohio Class Cruise Missile Submarine
- 100x Shang Class Nuclear Submarine

So what do you want me to do? Lower the number of troops and ships I'm sending to invade Japan and risk having them all obliterated by Japan random lobbing of nuclear/ballistic shells?

Suggestion? (No sarcasm. Real question)

@Japan: ........I forgot about that.

[Empire of Symphonia]

WILL MY QUESTION BE ANSWERED OR NOT?

Please reiterate your question.

[Bristain and Ireland]

WILL MY QUESTION BE ANSWERED OR NOT?

Please reiterate your question.

My question was this: I am intending on entering as a neutral observer, into this conflict, just to monitor what is going on, primarily because of the British Empire's colonies and interests in Asia. However, the roleplay already seems to have advanced over 500 posts in (on the main thread), and I simply don't have the time to trudge through every post, so could somebody give me a summary of what has happened so far?

[Empire of Symphonia]

Please reiterate your question.

My question was this: I am intending on entering as a neutral observer, into this conflict, just to monitor what is going on, primarily because of the British Empire's colonies and interests in Asia. However, the roleplay already seems to have advanced over 500 posts in (on the main thread), and I simply don't have the time to trudge through every post, so could somebody give me a summary of what has happened so far?

The coalition has basically begun the final countdown in defeating Japan. Troops are in the Pacific islands, southern Japan (Nagasaki), and Japan's territories in Oceania.

You may have interest in the peace process.

[The New Imperia]

WILL MY QUESTION BE ANSWERED OR NOT?

Japan attacked the nation "of the quendi"'s fleet
Quendi defeated Japanese fleet
Quendi summoned a coalition of volunteer nations to stop Japanese aggression
Japan made coalition to defend his sovereignty
Battle at Taiwan starts (either still going or Quendi coalition victory)
Battle at Midway starts (negotiations currently happening, heavy losses on both sides)
Battle at Nagasaki or home islands starts (ongoing, nuclear warfare)
Battle in Canada/Alaska starts (nuclear warfare, Quendi coalition victory)
Battle at Guam starts (ongoing i think)
Battle at Hawaii (ongoing, probable quendi coalition victory)
Battle in France (About to start, probable quendi coalition Victory
Possibility of peace negotiations begin to rise in many minds on both sides
Japan attempting new war plan, "dragon claw"

Notes
Nuclear warfare started on the home islands after information was ICly released of his plans to nuke everyone.
Battle at Canada/Alaska may have been retconned
Japanese economy crippled
Japan was the first to attempt to use nuclear weapons. It was to happen at Midway but was stopped by IC force.
Japan intends to surrender to someone (either Symphonia or Isolated China)
War has reached its climax

Side notes
Im currently going back into earlier posts to make a list of War crimes that the coalition would be able to hear of.

[Bristain and Ireland]

My question was this: I am intending on entering as a neutral observer, into this conflict, just to monitor what is going on, primarily because of the British Empire's colonies and interests in Asia. However, the roleplay already seems to have advanced over 500 posts in (on the main thread), and I simply don't have the time to trudge through every post, so could somebody give me a summary of what has happened so far?

The coalition has basically begun the final countdown in defeating Japan. Troops are in the Pacific islands, southern Japan (Nagasaki), and Japan's territories in Oceania.

You may have interest in the peace process.

I see. I would like to sign on as a mediator, when the peace negotiations arise. But is there an application to sign on as a neutral third party?

[Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia]

Just fill this out:

Nation name:
Side in the Conflict: (Quendi, Japanese, Other (please explain)
Amount of troops initialy deployed:
War RP example(s): (provide links to your first post in the RP's)
Why does your nation wants to get involved: (150 words minimum)

For the side in conflict, place Other, then in parentheses state that you are a mediator.

[Bristain and Ireland]

Just fill this out:

Nation name:
Side in the Conflict: (Quendi, Japanese, Other (please explain)
Amount of troops initialy deployed:
War RP example(s): (provide links to your first post in the RP's)
Why does your nation wants to get involved: (150 words minimum)

For the side in conflict, place Other, then in parentheses state that you are a mediator.

Thank you. My formal application will come up soon.

[Socialist States Owen]

Symphonia, you don't need to take 4 million troops to GEIJD - nor does your fleet have anywhere near the airlift/sealift capability to not only carry the troops, but their supplies and equipment. You don't need that many anyway because GEIJD has a terribad military - I can't see you needing more than 50,000 men to do some serious damage.

So you are putting all those troops in a country ravaged by nuclear detonations/fallout with undoubtably big food shortages, surrounded by a large coalition force and on the verge of being nuked?

And they just happened to arrive straight away? As Daveia pointed out, they went past ignored completely by coalition fleets?

Come on man, you can't expect us to take you seriously if you pull that crap.

1) I don't believe that you've just laid waste to every square inch of Japan. Nuclear fallout is a problem, and I'll factor that in my posts. Why do I need to do it now?

I was just pointing out that you are exposing a large amount of troops to radiation.

2) Are you seriously thinking that this little war should end with nuclear detonations? Thats stupid and makes this RP have an anti-climatic ending. Didn't you think about actually invading Japan instead of having it burn under an infinite amount of nuclear weapons?

Actually, I haven't considered it until this - and I'm still relucant to go to that.

3) None of the major coalition navies are in the North Pacific are they? Please read the location of my forces before saying I bypassed everyone, because I certainly do not ignore the location of my allies. As I recall, Japan hasn't enough forces to intercept a massive armada when he is being pounded in Midway, Hawaii, Taiwan, and Kyushu.

Daveia is sort of in that region and realistically theres no reason we wouldn't learn of that large a force unless you can magically move them all without communication via radio and whatnot. And the reason Japan dosen't have enough forces is because his military is as about combat effective as my foot.

4) What do want me to do, huh? Instead of telling me that I'm "pulling crap" and sounding like I'm trying to save the same country that attacked me with the intent of annexing me into their empire, why don't you suggest what I could do to help in the Rp?

I would be more constructive but you sort of jumped in after a lengthy abscense with an unnanounced swooping move to protect GEIJD, which very convieniently coincides with GEIJD delaying over a post he should've made ages ago. And if he intended to annex you, why oh why would your nation want to throw troops towards protecting him?

[Bristain and Ireland]

Nation name: United Kingdom of Great Bristain and Ireland
Side in the Conflict: The United Kingdom will be entering this conflict as a neutral third party and a mediator, so as to maintain peace and help with negotiations when they finally arise
Amount of troops initially deployed: None currently, besides the troops protecting the British colonies and spheres of influence in Asia that is: Sanegeta, Brittania, Chrisapore, Sheldonia, Donavania, New Cheyenna, Laura, Kimsong, Kalhaiwei, the protectorates of Paul and Alie, Nathaniela, New Marshland, British Banderan Islands
War RP example(s): viewtopic.php?f=5&t=127065 (although retconned) and viewtopic.php?f=5&t=134108 (although retconned)
Why does your nation wants to get involved: The United Kingdom wishes to become involved in the conflict as a third party and peace-keeper because she aims to protect the colonies of the British Empire, primarily, and to also act as a "nation of diplomacy". For a long time, Bristain has viewed herself as being a "honorable" negotiator and mediator. Only an attack on the possessions of the British Empire would bring Bristain into the conflict. Whoever launches the attack would be targeted, regardless of what side or coalition it is. Bristain has no military obligations towards either the Quendi or Japanese Dystopia, and is in fact, distrustful of both nations.

[Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia]

1) I don't believe that you've just laid waste to every square inch of Japan. Nuclear fallout is a problem, and I'll factor that in my posts. Why do I need to do it now?

I was just pointing out that you are exposing a large amount of troops to radiation.

2) Are you seriously thinking that this little war should end with nuclear detonations? Thats stupid and makes this RP have an anti-climatic ending. Didn't you think about actually invading Japan instead of having it burn under an infinite amount of nuclear weapons?

Actually, I haven't considered it until this - and I'm still relucant to go to that.

3) None of the major coalition navies are in the North Pacific are they? Please read the location of my forces before saying I bypassed everyone, because I certainly do not ignore the location of my allies. As I recall, Japan hasn't enough forces to intercept a massive armada when he is being pounded in Midway, Hawaii, Taiwan, and Kyushu.

Daveia is sort of in that region and realistically theres no reason we wouldn't learn of that large a force unless you can magically move them all without communication via radio and whatnot. And the reason Japan dosen't have enough forces is because his military is as about combat effective as my foot.

4) What do want me to do, huh? Instead of telling me that I'm "pulling crap" and sounding like I'm trying to save the same country that attacked me with the intent of annexing me into their empire, why don't you suggest what I could do to help in the Rp?

I would be more constructive but you sort of jumped in after a lengthy abscense with an unnanounced swooping move to protect GEIJD, which very convieniently coincides with GEIJD delaying over a post he should've made ages ago. And if he intended to annex you, why oh why would your nation want to throw troops towards protecting him?

Actually it is a Symphonian invasion force coming towards us. No one said there was a Symphonian force "coming to protect us". The AFN is also rather a collective alliance like NATO, or EU for this matter.
Edit: Also, I was wondering. Since Signups are normally IC, should there be a separate Signup thread to go with it, so that whenever someone signs up, it could be easier to manage or keep track of?

[Of the Quendi]

Nation name: United Kingdom of Great Bristain and Ireland
Side in the Conflict: The United Kingdom will be entering this conflict as a neutral third party and a mediator, so as to maintain peace and help with negotiations when they finally arise
Amount of troops initially deployed: None currently, besides the troops protecting the British colonies and spheres of influence in Asia that is: Sanegeta, Brittania, Chrisapore, Sheldonia, Donavania, New Cheyenna, Laura, Kimsong, Kalhaiwei, the protectorates of Paul and Alie, Nathaniela, New Marshland, British Banderan Islands
War RP example(s): viewtopic.php?f=5&t=127065 (although retconned) and viewtopic.php?f=5&t=134108 (although retconned)
Why does your nation wants to get involved: The United Kingdom wishes to become involved in the conflict as a third party and peace-keeper because she aims to protect the colonies of the British Empire, primarily, and to also act as a "nation of diplomacy". For a long time, Bristain has viewed herself as being a "honorable" negotiator and mediator. Only an attack on the possessions of the British Empire would bring Bristain into the conflict. Whoever launches the attack would be targeted, regardless of what side or coalition it is. Bristain has no military obligations towards either the Quendi or Japanese Dystopia, and is in fact, distrustful of both nations.

Accepted.

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On the issue of attacking Japan from the north I would like to point out that Japan still has forces in Alaska (I know that because I am beating them ) and therefore sailing through the Bering Strait undetected with a vast armada is going to be difficult to say the least.

[Bristain and Ireland]

Nation name: United Kingdom of Great Bristain and Ireland
Side in the Conflict: The United Kingdom will be entering this conflict as a neutral third party and a mediator, so as to maintain peace and help with negotiations when they finally arise
Amount of troops initially deployed: None currently, besides the troops protecting the British colonies and spheres of influence in Asia that is: Sanegeta, Brittania, Chrisapore, Sheldonia, Donavania, New Cheyenna, Laura, Kimsong, Kalhaiwei, the protectorates of Paul and Alie, Nathaniela, New Marshland, British Banderan Islands
War RP example(s): viewtopic.php?f=5&t=127065 (although retconned) and viewtopic.php?f=5&t=134108 (although retconned)
Why does your nation wants to get involved: The United Kingdom wishes to become involved in the conflict as a third party and peace-keeper because she aims to protect the colonies of the British Empire, primarily, and to also act as a "nation of diplomacy". For a long time, Bristain has viewed herself as being a "honorable" negotiator and mediator. Only an attack on the possessions of the British Empire would bring Bristain into the conflict. Whoever launches the attack would be targeted, regardless of what side or coalition it is. Bristain has no military obligations towards either the Quendi or Japanese Dystopia, and is in fact, distrustful of both nations.

Accepted.

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On the issue of attacking Japan from the north I would like to point out that Japan still has forces in Alaska (I know that because I am beating them ) and therefore sailing through the Bering Strait undetected with a vast armada is going to be difficult to say the least.

Since I am involving myself as a third party, where is the main thread and how can I get involved?

[Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia]

Accepted.

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On the issue of attacking Japan from the north I would like to point out that Japan still has forces in Alaska (I know that because I am beating them ) and therefore sailing through the Bering Strait undetected with a vast armada is going to be difficult to say the least.

Since I am involving myself as a third party, where is the main thread and how can I get involved?

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=135942

You could probably post a communique requesting the assurance that your Asian holdings are to be safe & excluded from the conflict, as well as propose to be a mediator...

[Paddy O Fernature]

Official People's Communist Socialist Red Imperial Communiqué from the Empire/帝国からの公式帝国接触/帝国日本の政府の公式伝達

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“八紘一宇, 富国強兵, 尊王攘夷, 天皇陛下万歳! 聖戦!!!”

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To: Highly Esteemed Premier Govich De Sauinought Die II of The Social Union of Whairtia
From: The Tokugawa-Qianglong Uchiha Imperial Royal Dynastic Imperial Akatsuki-Kairoshuu Regime of the Imperial Fire Nation Government Military Regime of the Empire of Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia's Supreme Leader: The Emperor Himself (His Divine Majesty, His Imperial Highness, the Comrade People's Emperor of Japan)
Encryption: Nuclear Extremely High Security

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Dear Premier Govich De Sauinought Die II of The Social Union of Whairtia,

We have been awakened by a sudden boom, when our regime has come to realize that our nation is no longer much of a force in the world. The nuclear strike has stroked what was once my beloved home, my beloved city. My people have been put through enough suffering, therefore I am willing to ask for your military assistance in our greatest time of need.

We need as many ground troops as possible, as well as many air & naval forces you can spare for the Operation Dragon's Claw to commence in earnest, of which we are still holding back to see if more of our allies are willing to go with the plan, of which could help us achieve a possible Tennozan ("Great Victory"), or can bring enough losses against the coalition to make them think twice before thinking they are actually going to get anything from this war other than more bloodshed. In which, could be used as leverage to secure us a more favourable position in the coming negotiations.

Finally, we request you to please hear us out, to see if you can agree to any of those ideas for this war plan. I thereof have spoken on behalf of all my people.

Amaterasu wills it, the Rising Sun wills it, I will it.

Be it Decreed by the People, The Military, The Politburo, The Emperor.

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Sincerely, Our Eternal Great People's Communist Revolutionary Socialist Red Immortal Emperor Tokugawa-Qianglong Uchiha no Yuan Zong Huangdi no Muteki no sama no Tenno Heika no Kami Banzai-sama no Wagakimi-sama no Yamato-tenshii-sama, The Great Immortal Fatherly + Brotherly Guide + Leader of the People's Imperial Huangdiist Revolution, The all-powerful warrior who, because of his endurance and inflexible will to win, goes from conquest to conquest, leaving fire in his wake, has spoken.
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From: Premier Govich
To: Allied Country

If you are reading this, you have been given access to colonial power, the current territory and manpower will be lended for use but if might not be fully stationed.

Colony in upper pacific, Dasi
3 million ground troops, 100 advanced (by modern human terms) ships from 1973

We hope you use it well, these troops are fully aware of their duty to aid a ally, currently the Whairtian government is probably in another important issue regarding the state.

Gosad Ludaw (Sincerely your ally-Kokorokara anatanomikata)

[San-Silvacian]

^ That.

[Whairtia]

From: Premier Govich
To: Allied Country

If you are reading this, you have been given access to colonial power, the current territory and manpower will be lended for use but if might not be fully stationed.

Colony in upper pacific, Dasi
3 million ground troops, 100 advanced (by modern human terms) ships from 1973

We hope you use it well, these troops are fully aware of their duty to aid a ally, currently the Whairtian government is probably in another important issue regarding the state.

Gosad Ludaw (Sincerely your ally-Kokorokara anatanomikata)

Just...wow.

And how do you magically propose that you are not only going to transport, but logistically support those 3million+ Troops?

I am not, Japan is, were both in the pacific anyways.

durp

[Paddy O Fernature]

Just...wow.

And how do you magically propose that you are not only going to transport, but logistically support those 3million+ Troops?

I am not, Japan is, were both in the pacific anyways.

durp

You do realize that Japan can hardly support his own troops at this point. Their is no way in hell he is going to support an additional 3 million troops.

And drop the attitude, now.

[Whairtia]

I am not, Japan is, were both in the pacific anyways.

durp

You do realize that Japan can hardly support his own troops at this point. Their is no way in hell he is going to support an additional 3 million troops.

And drop the attitude, now.

Oh so sorry, I have to follow what you say, listen i don't even know you and you hold no status that puts you higher than me in the thread, and after how some of the people in the OOC treated me I honestly could care less about what you guys think, your all just the same to me now, plus he asked for me to post that, take the beef to him not me, get the hole story down before you jump the shark.

[Paddy O Fernature]

You do realize that Japan can hardly support his own troops at this point. Their is no way in hell he is going to support an additional 3 million troops.

And drop the attitude, now.

Oh so sorry, I have to follow what you say, listen i don't even know you and you hold no status that puts you higher than me in the thread, and after how some of the people in the OOC treated me I honestly could care less about what you guys think, your all just the same to me now, plus he asked for me to post that, take the beef to him not me, get the hole story down before you jump the shark.

You want to play this game?

Fine.

Consider yourself IC Ignore Cannoned by myself. I also suggest that everyone else here do the same, since apparently Whairtia can't even be bothered to act like a civil human being. Not to mention the last thing we need is another god modder in this thread.

[San-Silvacian]

You do realize that Japan can hardly support his own troops at this point. Their is no way in hell he is going to support an additional 3 million troops.

And drop the attitude, now.

Oh so sorry, I have to follow what you say, listen i don't even know you and you hold no status that puts you higher than me in the thread, and after how some of the people in the OOC treated me I honestly could care less about what you guys think, your all just the same to me now, plus he asked for me to post that, take the beef to him not me, get the hole story down before you jump the shark.

'An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind'
-Mahatma Gandhi