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The New Imperia
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Postby The New Imperia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:08 am

Of the Quendi wrote:A 270 million people nation can easily send 23,000 T-70 tanks. Present day Russia has about 23,000 main battle tanks which are of a much more recent model (I would hope for them). Of course actually sending even a single T-70 is tactically unwise as a light tank from WWII is unlikely to be able to fight modern tanks.


Russia was a superpower though. But yes even with the tanks i agree that it would be unable to fight modern tanks. Especially considering our tanks can shoot while moving.

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Postby Socialist States Owen » Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:35 am

Of the Quendi wrote:A 270 million people nation can easily send 23,000 T-70 tanks. Present day Russia has about 23,000 main battle tanks which are of a much more recent model (I would hope for them). Of course actually sending even a single T-70 is tactically unwise as a light tank from WWII is unlikely to be able to fight modern tanks.


Yeah, but deploying them all at once with only 40,000 personnel - most of which i am assuming are combat personnel - with no-one to maintain them or fuel them is daft. As is deploying all of those tanks. I also don't see how it is logistically possible to deploy that many all at once, considering we are fighting on islands.

Russia was a superpower though. But yes even with the tanks i agree that it would be unable to fight modern tanks. Especially considering our tanks can shoot while moving.


Yes, what Imperia said too. To deploy that many you would have to run them on little fuel and they would have to be very poor quality tanks.
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Postby Of the Quendi » Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:32 am

The New Imperia wrote:
Of the Quendi wrote:A 270 million people nation can easily send 23,000 T-70 tanks. Present day Russia has about 23,000 main battle tanks which are of a much more recent model (I would hope for them). Of course actually sending even a single T-70 is tactically unwise as a light tank from WWII is unlikely to be able to fight modern tanks.


Russia was a superpower though. But yes even with the tanks i agree that it would be unable to fight modern tanks. Especially considering our tanks can shoot while moving.

Russia's superpower status (which is after all 20 years in the past) is irrelevant. My nation is a middle power or a regional power at best in NS yet I could crush every single RL nation, superpower or not, and at once.

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Of the Quendi wrote:A 270 million people nation can easily send 23,000 T-70 tanks. Present day Russia has about 23,000 main battle tanks which are of a much more recent model (I would hope for them). Of course actually sending even a single T-70 is tactically unwise as a light tank from WWII is unlikely to be able to fight modern tanks.


Yeah, but deploying them all at once with only 40,000 personnel - most of which i am assuming are combat personnel - with no-one to maintain them or fuel them is daft. As is deploying all of those tanks. I also don't see how it is logistically possible to deploy that many all at once, considering we are fighting on islands.

Russia was a superpower though. But yes even with the tanks i agree that it would be unable to fight modern tanks. Especially considering our tanks can shoot while moving.


Yes, what Imperia said too. To deploy that many you would have to run them on little fuel and they would have to be very poor quality tanks.

I never said it was sensible. I just said it could be done. But if the tanks is to be releashed on one of the larger targets (the chinese mainland could very well be invaded by my forces once Taiwan is taken) then I suppose the 40,000 would take turns with their tanks only using half of them at a time. A bit weird perhaps but when you bring WWII tanks to the front you might as well go all the way with the crazy.
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Cobra union
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Postby Cobra union » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:22 am

Good news mein friends we have forced japan to close his storefront so he has lost a major Money maker
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Postby Tehraan » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:26 am

Cobra union wrote:Good news mein friends we have forced japan to close his storefront so he has lost a major Money maker


I highly doubt loosing the trade surplus of his arms trade is going to affect his military bugded. Besides, only GEIJD's allies buy his poorly designed weapons.

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Postby Reformed Britannia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:29 am

Well depending on whether or not Jolthig accepts these terms, one of the largest foreign investors in NS history may be forced to stop pouring away cash.
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Postby Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:36 am

Reformed Britannia wrote:Well depending on whether or not Jolthig accepts these terms, one of the largest foreign investors in NS history may be forced to stop pouring away cash.


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Postby Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:37 am

Cobra union wrote:Good news mein friends we have forced japan to close his storefront so he has lost a major Money maker


I closed it because it is the old one. I am making a new storefront, with actual detail on my weapons, to satisfy everyone's requests. I will make an official notice of when it is complete.
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Cobra union
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Postby Cobra union » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:37 am

Japan if you attack Britanna you leave your Country even more defenceless
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Postby Reformed Britannia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:39 am

Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia wrote:*Emperor swears in anger, as lightning strokes fill the air, at those conditions. Threatens war with Reformed Britannia*

Image


Although there's always the chance he could decline. In which case I'm not really sure what we'll have to do with ol' Jolthig.


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Socialist States Owen
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Postby Socialist States Owen » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:41 am

Reformed Britannia wrote:
Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia wrote:*Emperor swears in anger, as lightning strokes fill the air, at those conditions. Threatens war with Reformed Britannia*

Image


Although there's always the chance he could decline. In which case I'm not really sure what we'll have to do with ol' Jolthig.


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Postby Cobra union » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:41 am

Image the Kings response to Japan


YES I AM GOING TO BOMB TOKYO AS WELL FROM SPACEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Postby Socialist States Owen » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:55 am

Cobra union wrote:
(Image) the Kings response to Japan


YES I AM GOING TO BOMB TOKYO AS WELL FROM SPACEEEEEEEEEEEE


So you deploy a good Blackadder joke calling GEIJD brainless then say you are going to bomb Tokyo from space? In MT? Fail.
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Postby Cobra union » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:01 am

its like those Kinetic missiles that Imperia used but am just throwing them at Tokyo my friend
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Postby Useful Daveia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:01 am

A quick repost so that Japan notices.

Useful Daveia wrote:
Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia wrote:
Assault on merchants...

With orders from the Emperor, the Imperial Japanese Navy as well as the air force, were on orders, to do things, for strategic purposes. The onslaugh began. Every merchant ship, civilian boat, was threatened or inspected by Japanese forces; or simply, the would sink th merchant/supply convoys, as well as kill these nation's desperately needed civilians, while at sea. In the air, Japanese aircraft, also pursued civilian as well as commercial airplanes, shooting them down at first opportunity. With supplies by sea or air, getting destroyed, the enemy could never support their wars against Japan. It was only a matter of time, before guerrilla tactics, as well as different sorts of unconventional tactics...


Well, I suppose thats your way of saying that you've rejected all foreign aid, especially as considering the theatre of war (the Pacific), the majority of the trade and supplies in the area wouldn't actually belong to those you're fighting. Instead you'll be sinking ships that would've traded with you or other asian countries within the area. Doesn't this also tie up a pretty damn large percentage of your navy considering the size of the Pacific?


You've pretty much cut yourself off from foreign materiel support there, as given where the conflict is taking place - specifically near your Pacific holdings - and not other regional areas, you'll be sinking the vessels that would've carried your supplies or traded with you. Were you to engage those of other countries elsewhere, you would have to A: Dispatch a significant percentage of your navy due to the sheer amount to sea to cover, and B: Contend with the naval assets of other regions when you started poking your navy into their waters to try and raid their shipping.

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Postby Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:23 am

Useful Daveia wrote:A quick repost so that Japan notices.

Useful Daveia wrote:
Well, I suppose thats your way of saying that you've rejected all foreign aid, especially as considering the theatre of war (the Pacific), the majority of the trade and supplies in the area wouldn't actually belong to those you're fighting. Instead you'll be sinking ships that would've traded with you or other asian countries within the area. Doesn't this also tie up a pretty damn large percentage of your navy considering the size of the Pacific?


You've pretty much cut yourself off from foreign materiel support there, as given where the conflict is taking place - specifically near your Pacific holdings - and not other regional areas, you'll be sinking the vessels that would've carried your supplies or traded with you. Were you to engage those of other countries elsewhere, you would have to A: Dispatch a significant percentage of your navy due to the sheer amount to sea to cover, and B: Contend with the naval assets of other regions when you started poking your navy into their waters to try and raid their shipping.


You know, I am not attacking my supplies, or my allied shipping. I am raiding anything determined to be enemy shipping, enemy supplies, or enemy civilian boats suspected of carrying weapons. We will sink all those, in no time. This is to make sure, none of you have food or supplies, when you even manage to get through my mined waters, mined beaches, etc. to make a landing. Your men will only last for so long, before they go hungry. We will attack shipping in all directions, that we identify as enemy shipping.
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Postby Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:25 am

Cobra union wrote:
(Image) the Kings response to Japan


YES I AM GOING TO BOMB TOKYO AS WELL FROM SPACEEEEEEEEEEEE


Image
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Azrael wrote:Except that their entire appearance is a ruse!
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Postby Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:26 am

Reformed Britannia wrote:
Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia wrote:*Emperor swears in anger, as lightning strokes fill the air, at those conditions. Threatens war with Reformed Britannia*

Image


Although there's always the chance he could decline. In which case I'm not really sure what we'll have to do with ol' Jolthig.


Image
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Postby Cobra union » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:33 am

Image To japan


Japan my troops will just eat the Leafs off the trees and plants and My men are getting supplies thanks to my zepplin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35Pp3nF2 ... dded#at=56 the anthem of the cobra union


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Postby Reformed Britannia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:38 am

Not to rain on your parade Cobra, but your men would have a tough time getting their supplies of protein, sodium and a bunch of vitamins if they lived off grass and leaves.


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Postby Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:39 am

Cobra union wrote:
(Image) To japan


Japan my troops will just eat the Leafs off the trees and plants and My men are getting supplies thanks to my zepplin


Image


*"Leaves + plants, that may be swelled with chemical weapons. Do not forget, that we will use scortch earth, or any necessary means, to hold you back" Says the Emperor, while making a Cobra do a facenuke.*
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Postby Cobra union » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:41 am

*Points to the zepplin at midway holding a sign saying SUPPLIES COME FROM HERE*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35Pp3nF2 ... dded#at=56 the anthem of the cobra union


We pledge to you,Cobra Commander, loyalty and bravery.
We swear obedience to you and the superiors appointed by you,
even unto death, as God is our witness."Cobra SS pledge

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Postby Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:45 am

Cobra union wrote:*Points to the zepplin at midway holding a sign saying SUPPLIES COME FROM HERE*


Image


*Good luck, then. My troops are ordered to shoot down any supplies identified as the enemy's*
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Azrael wrote:Except that their entire appearance is a ruse!
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Postby Socialist States Owen » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:46 am

Greater Evil Imperial Japanese Dystopia wrote:
Useful Daveia wrote:A quick repost so that Japan notices.



You've pretty much cut yourself off from foreign materiel support there, as given where the conflict is taking place - specifically near your Pacific holdings - and not other regional areas, you'll be sinking the vessels that would've carried your supplies or traded with you. Were you to engage those of other countries elsewhere, you would have to A: Dispatch a significant percentage of your navy due to the sheer amount to sea to cover, and B: Contend with the naval assets of other regions when you started poking your navy into their waters to try and raid their shipping.


You know, I am not attacking my supplies, or my allied shipping. I am raiding anything determined to be enemy shipping, enemy supplies, or enemy civilian boats suspected of carrying weapons. We will sink all those, in no time. This is to make sure, none of you have food or supplies, when you even manage to get through my mined waters, mined beaches, etc. to make a landing. Your men will only last for so long, before they go hungry. We will attack shipping in all directions, that we identify as enemy shipping.


Considering how stretched your navy is already, there is no way you can eliminate enemy merchant shipping from the entire Pacific Ocean - let alone do it easily. Also, military personnel get their food from military ships, not merchant ships.

You really need to sort out your strategy because it's one that will never succeed.
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Postby Cobra union » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:47 am

japan Your troops are screwed You have me imperia and Necron attacking you and its only you and Libre defending it so yeah YOUR SCREWED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35Pp3nF2 ... dded#at=56 the anthem of the cobra union


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even unto death, as God is our witness."Cobra SS pledge

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