Through Diplomacy unto the Anvil of Militarism (CLOSED)

by **Xiscapia** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:37 am

Terridan, Sheranix Tower...

"The Xiscapian Imperial Army does indeed employ a number of digging, drilling and construction units," Katsu confirmed. "As the products are Blasttech designed and produced, I will turn the matter over to Associate Amida, of Blasttech Industries."

"Thank you, Major," the sable vulpine smiled, leaning forward to address Hammond. "General, Blasttech has been the primary producer of most types of equipment for the Imperial Army for generations. Our selection of military-grade, armored and even armed diggers, drills and miners are second to none. Excavation class drones, for example, use plasma torches that allow them to chew through any amount of soil or bedrock so long as power is supplied, and can tear apart a light tank if confronted. I believe we have just what you're looking for.

"The mole miner class," he tapped his datapad, bringing up a holographic diagram of a boxy drill on treads. "Treads give it stability in almost any environment, while a sophisticated deep-penetration sensor suite and anti-gravity thrusters allow it to identify suitable entry points for tunnels and avoid weak or unstable rock structures. Its hull can withstand up to twenty five hundred tons of pressure, and it is armored to repel small arms fire and light guns and munitions. Its air and power supplies enable a crew of two, or single automated unit, to operate uninterrupted for up to eight hours at a time before requiring recharging. It can be fitted with a diamond-studded drill head, but if it's stealth you want it equips a pair of special mining lasers to melt through obstacles almost silently. They may not be solid, but their strength is not in doubt; according to an inspiration anecdote I once heard, one of our laser mole miners was used to drill through the hull armor and into the internal decks of a Battlestar."

by **Karaig** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:43 pm

TERRIDAN, TYPHON SYSTEM
TERRIS, ADMINISTRATION DISTRICT
SHERANIX TOWER

"Interesting," replied General Hammond. "This Mole class drilling platform, it can be fitted with diamond studs to increase drilling speed, or it can run on energy for stealth. What per say, is the energy signature on this drill? Noise is not the only danger of the underground war as you probably know. Enemy units competitiveness at underground warfare will place submerged dugouts to listen for noise and energy signatures, and once pinged, one could fire a burrowing missile and eliminate a whole division.

"I'd also like to know how big these drilled tunnels would be. Would I be able to move massive quantities of men with one dig line, or would it be a single file tunnel? After all, the most powerful base of operations is deep under the ground, where missiles cannot penetrate deep enough without multiple salvos, and even at that, finding the bases would be hard."

by **Xiscapia** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:57 am

Terridan, Sheranix Tower...

"The standard version has an energy signature equivalent to that of most sedans," Amida answered. "Because the drill is not often used for stealth operations, even in the military, we were not concerned with reducing its output. However, we could easily manufacture purpose-made dampeners and jammers for that purpose to be modified on to the drills. We design them to be versatile, the military may not be our biggest customer -that would be various mining consortium operations- but it is our best, and that is what they demand of their units. If you wish you could simply purchase the stock variant and customize it to your desires, but we would be happy to make the changes for you.

"On the subject of size, the Mole miner digs a standard tunnel eight meters wide and four meters tall, slightly more than its own dimensions. As such, one miner can make one tunnel, but if fitted with additional equipment they can enlarge the tunnels by up to three times. As I understand it, what the Imperial Army does is simply coordinate a number of mole miners and other digging units to work together to make the desired spaces, rather than employing a single large machine." He glanced to Katsu, who nodded once. "Given time, even a single miner can create as large an area as you wish, but using multiple miners as teams was found to be the quickest and most efficient practice." He seemed to regard this as a finality on the matter, but his ears perked curiously as he looked at Hammond. "What does the Karaigan military use currently for its dig operations?"

by **Karaig** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:14 pm

TERRIDAN, TYPHON SYSTEM
TERRIS, ADMINISTRATION DISTRICT
SHERANIX TOWER

"The acquisition of a drilling platform is a higher priority among the military. We believe with the speed of the drill,it will give us an edge underground. So in light of your offer, on behalf of the Karaigian Military, I would like to purchase the stock variant of your drill. I'd like to have dampeners installed to quiet down the heavy mechanism, along with extra armoured plating around the source of propulsion to give the drill resistance to hostile ambushes and the likes."

"As to answer your question, the Karaigian Military, specifically the Combat Engineer Units use a variety of equipment and vehicles for digging, from our archaic Devil Drills, to Atlas Execavators and our reliable Archeron Assault Breacher. Still, the Devil Drills need to be replaced, as they are too loud and inefficient, and the tunnels they make do not suit our needs. After all, a substantial underground network of tunnels, bunkers, galleys, and storehouse can improve a surface defences a hundred times over."

by **Xiscapia** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:16 pm

Terridan, Sheranix Tower...

"Very well then," Amida gave a little truncated bow with his head, clearly pleased. "Once this session is concluded I can meet with yourself or an appropriate representative to work out the details. Depending on the size of the order, Blasttech could make the first shipment in as little as a week. If there is a larger projected need, I assume we can apply for a permit to construct factories within Karaigan territory, or simply sell the Domestic Production Rights for the unit to the government. Thank you for your business, General."

"The Kitsune Imperial Army has another need that I believe an organization represented here could fulfill," Major Katsu spoke up again, leaning forward and tapping into his datapad once more. "Recent combat on the Danaversian fortress world of Yroaupz has demonstrated a glaring weakness in our ability to project power. Yroaupz is a planet with a surface that is ninety two percent water, inhabited by a native, sapient race called the Sar that lives almost entirely underwater, and defended by a hostile power that has stationed the vast majority of its troops and fortifications on the sea floor. While the detachment sent was able to use what little landmasses there were to launch ZMI Intruder class hydrofoils to conduct patrols over the coasts and Mizu Hebi submarines to operate in the deep waters, it was forced to rely almost entirely on the indigenous Sar for its submerged transport and combat needs. This is an unacceptable state of affairs.

"What we require is a series of instillation and vehicle classes that can support and persecute submerged operations. These would include surface tenders and docking stations, transports, gun and torpedo platforms, reconnaissance drones and mobile bases. Essentially, we would require the design and production of an entire new branch of warfare to suit our needs, both present and future. The Mizu Hebi is an excellent attack and artillery vessel, but it is not an all-purpose craft. Who here could speak for a company or conglomerate that could fulfill our requirements?"

by **Karaig** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:14 pm

TERRIDAN, TYPHON SYSTEM
TERRIS, ADMINISTRATION DISTRICT
SHERANIX TOWER

"So what you're saying is the Kistune Empire requires a full new spectrum of warfare to be constructed? So from what i have heard, the Kitsune Empire currently only operates the Mizu Hebi hunter killer and a small river patrol craft?" asked General Hammond rhetorically/ "To the Karaigian Empire, that is an unacceptable position, as we have a substantial force of wet navies at our disposal. Luckily for you, we would be more then happy to assist our ally in shoring up their military. Mr. Kazakov."

Mr Kazakov looked up, setting down his datapad.

"Well for this request, I believe that BRAWN will design the weapons while HHECI tackles the vessels themselves."

with this, John Sevn nodded.

"Along with Aegis ADC, who will fabricate the so called higher technology." continued Kazakov. "Now from my experiences in war, I have seen the value of a wet navy to the point where I have said that I like them over Exo navies, though that was a while back. Wet Navies provide something that an exo navy cannot do when forces are planetside: transportation. Aerial lift is unreliable because, let's face it, every competent power can shoot down transports, which by the way, usually can only carry a few vehicles or troops. If in the case that they are large, like a Xiscapian KILL, then they will be targeted by every gun available. This is not to say that these are useless, no they are valuable, but once you've taken a continent, moving to the next one will be difficult because the enemy will have fresh forces and AA systems, even in spite of heavy orbital bombardment. Now, a wet navy can get under the anti orbital grid and move men in vast quantities, and most nations forget them, as they seem outdated, and thus lack coastal guns.

"Also, naval units carry large caliber weapons giving them a definitive force when assaulting a shore. A battleship will carry several of these, and though the guns must see the target to shoot, the shorter range is negated as no ship will survive a direct hit, and missile shields will fail to stop rail rounds. Transports can carry men and smaller transports for amphibious landings, along with a small air wing for precision bombardment against hostiles who survive the large scale battleship barrage. Carriers can carry fighters and protect them when in atmosphere, so you don't need to transition between orbit and planet, and in the Karaigian case, they are also submarines. Missile cruisers form a bulk of wet navies, their smaller caliber guns easily made up for by their quantities of missiles, and torpedos for sub hunting. Now tenders will form the back bone, acting as supply ships for the navy, and mobile repair platforms. A naval ship is usually able, in medium intensity conflicts, so stay at sea for four months before pulling out to resupply ammo and food. Tenders can fit two ships each in the back, as their stern is essentially two docks."

He paused thinking. Then turned to the Xiscapians again.

"We can do this. We can create a navy, but we would request something of you. Laser batteries. We want massive laser cannons that can fire hundreds of shots into orbit and still pulverize enemy warships. These can be mounted on land, but also on sea borne vessels as ship to orbit weapons making a mobile battery. Of course you would be delivered the STO ship to add to your navy."

by **Xiscapia** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:42 pm

Terridan, Sheranix Tower...

Tomoko narrowed her eyes at Hammond. "Aerial transport has always worked fine for the KIN-"

"That is all very fine and well, but we require a navy of subsurface craft, not surface vessels," Katsu interrupted. "We have no need or desire for boats save tenders. The Imperial Army would seek to operate primarily from the sea floor and at depth, as opposed to atop the water. Quite simply, surface vessels are too vulnerable, and are limited in their ability to engage and destroy subsurface facilities and hostile units. That is the ability we require; the Imperial Navy already provides a fine method of ground assault for our forces, any sea-based force would be generally supplemental."

Sitting back in her chair, Tomoko smirked.

by **Karaig** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:02 pm

TERRIDAN, TYPHON SYSTEM
TERRIS, ADMINISTRATION DISTRICT
SHERANIX TOWER

"I did not mean to offend." replied Hammond,"I was merely stating a fact that Karaigian Military strategy relies on every spectrum of warfare, from water to space, to boots, to hooves- don't ask on the last one. Regarding your subsurface navy we can do this but you will need two surface vessels; tenders and defensive. After all do you expect you tenders to act as anti air missile cruisers all the while carrying the equipment for resupplying and refitting? No you wouldn't have enough shots to do this. After all, what is stopping some one from using fighter mounted torpedoes? The believe that surface combat ships are too vulnerable is flawed as underwater, no matter how much armour you have, one hole and you'll crush, that is a fact that cannot be fixed. On the surface, bulkheads and heavy armour can help increase survivebility by incredible amounts.Though your submarines can survive a hit or two, a word of advice: always treat each sub as if one hit will sink it. You see, a completely submerged navy doesn't project power, though you do not need it to, you are using it for underwater encounters and siege. Carriers cannot deploy fighters from underwater, though mecha brings up a possibility. Refitting Mizu Hebis could make an interesting variant....

"Back on topic. We can do this for you, but we were just stating a fact, surface combatants will be required. Even if it is just to form a protective ring around your forces, and your valuable tenders. Surface ships can carry more supplies as they are not limited to size, though subs are valuable for infiltration and guerrilla warfare but in a full on assault, I'd rather depth charge the enemy fleet with drone bombs. So in conclusion, I'd recommend at least some form of dedicated anti air surface unit to protect your tenders, and possibly a heavier submarine for the bombardment of underwater fortresses, cities, etcetera."

by **Xiscapia** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:59 am

Terridan, Sheranix Tower...

"I did not mean to offend."

"No offense taken." Katsu glanced to Tomoko, who just shook her head.

"Regarding your subsurface navy we can do this but you will need two surface vessels; tenders and defensive. After all do you expect you tenders to act as anti air missile cruisers all the while carrying the equipment for resupplying and refitting? No you wouldn't have enough shots to do this."

"Makes sense," the Army officer conceded.

"After all, what is stopping some one from using fighter mounted torpedoes? The believe that surface combat ships are too vulnerable is flawed as underwater, no matter how much armour you have, one hole and you'll crush, that is a fact that cannot be fixed."

"Maybe for your technological level," the Major said mildly. "If that is so, we will concern ourselves with it via XIA Research and Development or through a corporate bidder. You need not worry about it. But please," he waved a hand, "continue. This is...fascinating."

"So in conclusion, I'd recommend at least some form of dedicated anti air surface unit to protect your tenders, and possibly a heavier submarine for the bombardment of underwater fortresses, cities, etcetera."

"Very well. A tender, an anti-air cruiser, and some form of transport," Katsu transmitted a few things into his datapad and onto the summit network. "HHECI may have a blank check on this, with Imperial Army oversight of course. What I am primarily interested in is the design and development of the subsurface vessels, which my superiors believe will be the chief combatants in any war fought in the ocean. We believe the Mizu Hebi will be sufficient for attacking subsurface targets, but the need for the others remains. What can be offered on that front?"

by **Karaig** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:05 am

TERRIDAN, TYPHON SYSTEM
TERRIS, ADMINISTRATION DISTRICT
SHERANIX TOWER

"Very well. A tender, an anti-air cruiser, and some form of transport," Katsu transmitted a few things into his datapad and onto the summit network. "HHECI may have a blank check on this, with Imperial Army oversight of course. What I am primarily interested in is the design and development of the subsurface vessels, which my superiors believe will be the chief combatants in any war fought in the ocean. We believe the Mizu Hebi will be sufficient for attacking subsurface targets, but the need for the others remains. What can be offered on that front?"

"Well," Mr. Kazakov said before Hammond could come in. "Before I continue, let me clarify; you would like a tender class vessel, we can make those easily. How does two stern oriented births for surface combatants and two ventral for subsurface? Obviously subs could use the surface combatant resupply areas, but sadly it isn't vice versa. You would also like an AA cruiser, which I recommend downing to a destroyer. Gives it speed and besides cruisers are really more of an anti-ship role. As for the transport, would this be the Speeder variant, the Mizu Hebi mecha carrier or a new troop based one?

"That aside, now for the supplements. The Karaigian Empire's wet navies have a substantial stock to choose from. So if the Mizu Hebi will be the main attack sub of the Kitsune.. Army, I believe? Well, you'll need a support or flanker type craft that can hit the enemy very hard. Well, the Karaigian Hammerhead sub is a candidate. The sub only carries four torpedo chutes compared to the Mizu's eight, and lacks the latter's missile capacity. It is indeed a special sub for a specialized role. It carrier ten starboard side guns similar to a land howizter in role and length. These guns fire in broadside patterns giving the sub a role as an artillery piece. Now of course these guns are nothing to a surface battleship, as the sub only has so much room. But I can guarantee that the Hammerhead will destroy any seabed facilities. After all, once the armour has ten meter wide hole in it, anything will crush underwater.

"Now, if you want to cause almost irreparable damage and make the enemy deploy forces where you want, then BRAWN's BloodAngler is perfect. A non-combatant, the Angler sports massive bays of mines for laying depth charges, fields, and ultimately forcing your opponent to deploy their forces where you want them too, no semi sane admiral will risk a navy, especially submerged units, brave a minefield unless the situation is most dire. Now, you can hold about five hundred mines per vessel, or two hundred nuclear ones- trust me, nukes decimate whole fleets. Now, this vessel has a bay of twenty remote drones to disable hostile mines, submarine needs, and anchored torpedo launchers. So I would recommend escorts, but its silent running should get it past most naval units.

"...And thats about it for combating subsurface threats. I mean we have other subs for supporting navies, or acting as orbital support, but those two are the main assets that we can offer to anyone combating subsurface threats threats with subs. Obviously there are surface combatants that support, but you are adamant on being subsurface."

by **Xiscapia** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:46 pm

Terridan, Sheranix Tower...

"Before I continue, let me clarify; you would like a tender class vessel, we can make those easily. How does two stern oriented births for surface combatants and two ventral for subsurface? Obviously subs could use the surface combatant resupply areas, but sadly it isn't vice versa."

"Acceptable," the Major confirmed with a quick nod.

"You would also like an AA cruiser, which I recommend downing to a destroyer. Gives it speed and besides cruisers are really more of an anti-ship role. As for the transport, would this be the Speeder variant, the Mizu Hebi mecha carrier or a new troop based one?"

"Very well, an AA destroyer. Forgive me, I do not know what the differences might be in a wet navy; they don't directly parallel the roles in a space navy." He set his datapad down. "As for the transport, the Imperial Army would desire a large troop carrier for the mass transport of soldiers and armor. Perquisites include thick armor and a strong point-defense grid. I believe another corporation can handle modifying our Speeder vehicles and Mizu Hebi submarines for their respective roles."

At the end of Kazakov summary the kitsune frowned but said nothing. "We will not have need of the BloodAngler, minelayer and sweeper boats are already in development on Yroaupz. With regards to the Hammerhead, can you give me more information on it? I assume that when it engages submerged targets that it establishes a line-of-sight with the unit or facility and attacks with its broadside? And it is, I also assume, smaller and faster than the Mizu Hebi?"

by **Karaig** » Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:17 pm

TERRIDAN, TYPHON SYSTEM
TERRIS, ADMINISTRATION DISTRICT
SHERANIX TOWER

"Well," continued Kazakov. "That can be arranged, as for the troop carrier, forgive me, but is this a surface troop carrier, or one that can operate sub surface. If so on the latter, do you have any aquatic infantry, because we can equip the transport so it can deploy infantry underwater, or is it just to ferry between docks? I'd also like to know the amount of troops you'd like to be able to move per transport, the amount of equipment they'd be bringing, and how long they'd be embarked on average, for food storage reasons.

"As for the Hammerhead you'd be correct on all fronts. It is smaller and faster, but retaining the same armour as the Mizu Hebi, after all, it isn't burdened with missile silos. It has to establish line of sight with the target unless you have a scout giving coordinates, then all you have to do is point the broadside; you only need a straight line. I can assure you it has a range of fifteen nautical miles, after all water will slow down the shell after twenty, making it very ineffective. Now I believe you will want the rights to produce this, and if we can come to agreement on it, I will give you some advice; build them in pairs. One sister vessel will have a broadside on its starboard side, the other sister will have it on the port side. This will make them exceedingly potent in flanking operations."

by **Xiscapia** » Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:35 pm

Terridan, Sheranix Tower...

"The requirements call for a surface troop carrier...though I can assure you the XIA would be interested in a subsurface transport as well," Katsu mused. "They would be two different things -the surface ship would be used to move troops and armor between ports, the larger of the two, say a fully equipped division of ten thousand, and likely used more for longer voyages between continents. A subsurface transport would deploy its infantry almost exclusively submerged, be equipped for one thousand and used more for pinpoint attacks on specific targets. Naturally speed and durability would be of the essence for the former, while the latter would be more oriented towards stealth and protection. I'm afraid I can't give you an average time, since every situation is different.

"As for the Hammerhead, it sounds like it would be of some usefulness. Tell me if this is an acceptable price for the domestic production rights." He tapped his datapad and had a number transmitted to all the others in the room.

by **Karaig** » Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:47 pm

TERRIDAN, TYPHON SYSTEM
TERRIS, ADMINISTRATION DISTRICT
SHERANIX TOWER

"Excellent. This generous price is most appreciated."

HAMMERHEAD

"Karaig has multiple maritime transports, and moving ten thousand men is no problem; unless your soldiers do not like cramped quarters. But I must ask, before we get into this, is there and armoured or mechanized component to this ship? Carrying ten thousand men is easy, but adding on support crews for vehicles and such might limit some sections."

by **Xiscapia** » Wed Oct 12, 2011 9:46 pm

Terridan, Sheranix Tower...

Glancing over the file on the Hammerhead class submarine, Katsu tucked it away for later and resumed listening to his counterpart. "Close quarters are not a problem, I assure you. Our people are smaller than your own, and our troops are already used to low and narrow confines on starships -similar conditions on sailing craft would be little different." He took a sip of water.

"Yes, in fact we would wish to be able to deploy an armored detachment or other, similar units from the ship itself. May I ask what sections would have to be cut down or eliminated to fit in vehicles and their crews?"

by **Karaig** » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:48 pm

TERRIDAN, TYPHON SYSTEM
TERRIS, ADMINISTRATION DISTRICT
SHERANIX TOWER

"Its not really the fact that we'll need to cut down on certain areas, more so in cargo. If you plan to deploy a whole division of troops, you need little space for armouries to store weapons, cargo space for ration pills is also small, and munitions would be the largest concern. After all, munitions are a priority as unloading bullet and cell-less troops isn't a bright move. Now, all of our ships can carry a small section of mechanized vehicles, but the more vehicles you try to fit in, the less of everything else. We consider it basic math, fifty troops equals one tank with munitions; this doesn't include support staff and equipment for extended operations. So more room will be taken, cargo for troops will be strained, its all about space"

"So in conclusion, do you want a troopship with a full mechanized attachment, and if so, what would be a full mech attachment for a division of ten thousand. Forgive me, we do not know the ratios of the Kitsune Army."

by **Xiscapia** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:56 pm

Terridan, Sheranix Tower...

"Having mechanized units available to support infantry is considered important," the Major confirmed. "As it stands, if systems are not at stake in the design then we can configure the vessel and its cargo space ourselves. After all, different situations will require different loads. Whatever system the Karaigan military uses currently would be acceptable. If it is not we can undertake the modifications."

by **Karaig** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:36 pm

TERRIDAN, TYPHON SYSTEM
TERRIS, ADMINISTRATION DISTRICT
SHERANIX TOWER

"Well the transportation of ten thousand men on a boat is much different to space borne transports, due to buoyancy and the likes. So carrying enough vehicles to support a division is tricky. Though I'd advise transporting the vehicles on another ship, so you can focuse the ship's equipment to directly support the vehicles and crews, and it divides your forces up between vessels. That way you can limit losses per boat, we generally work by the rule of thumb if we are transporting vehicles and troops on the same vessel. Ten soldiers, at least our troops, along with ammunition, weapons, rations, and supplies, take up the same amount of space as one vehicle. This is because vehicles do not require toiletries and beds, unlike the aforementioned troops. Now the biggest waterborne transport in the Karaigian Surface Navy is the Odyssey class, which has a crew of one hundred thirty, and can carry eleven thousand troops plus one hundred vehicles. Now being a modular platform like most Karaigian vehicles, you can carry more vehicles at the expense of men, and vice versa.

"Now seeing the Xiscapian soldiers, such as the ones outside, compared to our larger BRATs, you should be able to fit more onto each ship if you modify the bunk rooms to fit your people more, but the issue on vehicles is hard to replace: yo can't carry ten thousand men on one boat plus a thousand vehicles, nor would you want to, due to the amount of equipment you'd loose if the ship sunk. Even with thick plating and protection, we would recommend these only to be used to transport troops in relatively safe areas."

"As for a subsurface transport, we have a few questions: mainly the fact if you are deploying troops to assault underwater bases, or are they being deployed into the ocean to swim and do combat in the open sea?"

by **Xiscapia** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:24 pm

Terridan, Sheranix Tower...

Internally jotting down notes as the man spoke, Major Katsu knew it was going to be a while before anyone in the military was used to the idea of ocean-going craft. Commanders and troopers alike were still wrapping their heads around Mizu Hebi submarines being deployed by the XIA, never mind that doctrine and protocol for them had to be drawn up even as the ships were constructed. Hopefully the Karaigans could help with all that. "The Odyssey transport sounds ideal," he commented. "And don't worry. I don't think anyone's planning to...sail, his ship directly into the guns of the enemy.

"As for your questions, any troops deployed would primarily be attacking subsurface targets such as installations on the sea floor. The XIA sees little reason to leave its troops exposed in the open ocean where there are no assets to protect and they themselves are vulnerable to attack. As with Imperial Marines in space, we expect infantry to be used ship-to-ship or ship-to-station."

by **Karaig** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:08 pm

TERRIDAN, TYPHON SYSTEM
TERRIS, ADMINISTRATION DISTRICT
SHERANIX TOWER

"Excellent, we can easily send you the schematics for the Odyssey within the week. As for this sub surface transport, you wanted one thousand troops to fit into a submarine? If so, this is another very tight fit, and especially on submarines, so weapons will have to be sacrificed. Luckily for you, the Mizu Hebi can easily support such a craft during a boarding action, and if you had submersible mecha, they too could help."

"Other than that, it shouldn't be too problematic to make boarding tubes and the likes. Forgive us, but the BRIKA, or simply the Karaigian Army to you, doesn't have much of a doctrine on sub surface boarding operations between submarines."

by **Xiscapia** » Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:38 pm

Terridan, Sheranix Tower...

"It wouldn't necessarily need to be exactly one thousand troops, but we would want to be able to move and deploy relatively large quantities of troops subsurface," Katsu told him. "Several hundred at least. In any case stripping the weapons off a transport is not a problem, so long as it can at least retain some defensive measures. I'm afraid you've misunderstood my analogy though -the XIA doesn't anticipate conducting ship-to-ship boarding operations, only from ships to static installations. About the submersible mecha, though -does the Karaigan Army possess such a thing? I am wondering if our current mecha could be modified to operate in the ocean."

by **Karaig** » Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:55 pm

TERRIDAN, TYPHON SYSTEM
TERRIS, ADMINISTRATION DISTRICT
SHERANIX TOWER

"We should be able to design a vessel capable of carrying six hundred men, or two companies by Karaigian standards, easily. Making it primarily to dock against stationary structures simplifies things, so that is no problem. As for the defences, two torpedo tows, and an array of passive defences such as stealth, silhouettes, and jammers should provide adequate cover, though an escort is recommended. We can have blueprints for the design done in a month." concluded Kazakov.

"On the underwater mecha," started Jilin Reinhart. "Aegis has been doing much on the lines of testing recently, mostly on our AACD Bloodhound IIs- fire support drones used in military assault, jungle and urban terrain, and many security firms. Suffice to say, the army loves them."

"No contradiction here." cut in Captain Amstres.

"Anyway, We've been testing drones at a multitude of depths, rail weapons fire, gauss, torpedoes, though unlike submarines, advanced units with joints and smaller body mass cannot survive at the deepest depths, in that case you'd need a special unit. As for testing on mecha, we are not too sure: the Karaigian Military has had little demand for mecha, so we haven't touched to much on that topic."

by **Xiscapia** » Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:08 pm

Terridan, Sheranix Tower...

"Such a design sounds like it would fit our specifications," Katsu confirmed. "I will have an Army representative review the blueprints once they are made. It is unfortunate that the Karaigan Army has not conducted any trials on submerged mecha designs, we will just have to do that testing ourselves." He folded his hands. "I believe that covers the scope of my requests. Are there any questions or concerns from your end that I or one of my colleagues could field?"

by **Karaig** » Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:24 pm

TERRIDAN, TYPHON SYSTEM
TERRIS, ADMINISTRATION DISTRICT
SHERANIX TOWER

"Indeed." entered Ambassador Smith, sitting up straight. "May I assume that the Xiscapian Imperial Navy keeps track of allied and hostile fleet movements? All formidable armed forces has intelligence gathering sectors, and I can assume that a grand power like yours would have such a sector.I would like to request, on behave of the Karaigian Empire, any tactical data you are willing to give on the so called Skulks."

"We have been interested in the Skulks for some time," spoke Admiral Bourenski. " We would like the data for defensive and security reasons; we suffered a tragedy at a Skulk band known as the Hellhounds. I hope you can understand one's wish to be able to know if their enemy is going to kick in their front door. We would really appreciate the help."

by **Xiscapia** » Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:08 pm

Terridan, Sheranix Tower...

"I will have to field that question with the Imperial Intelligence Department," the Vanadict stepped in again to answer the Ambassador. "The IID keeps tabs on allied and hostile fleet movements so far as it is able, but the Skulks, like any nomads, are exceptionally difficult to track. They do not usually broadcast their arrival and their methods of travel are impossible to trace -the best way to tell where they have been is by noting where pre-FTL civilizations have gone dark. In any case, I will put in a request for the Department to forward what information it can on the mysterious fleets, though I fear it will not be much. A good deal of the information is classified, of the type that I cannot reveal because even I do not know it."

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