Earth Empires (FT V 4.0, Open)

[Solar Cordoba]

Sorry New Canaan I thought that it would be nice to help get Solar Islam involved in a post. He isn't going to invade but is there to determine why I am there. Since he isn't welcome to join in I am sure that our posts will revolve around why I am there and then he will leave. Thus you don't have a third invading party and Solar Islam can post a little more without having to retract everything. I apologize for not asking and informing you earlier. I hope this is agreeable to both sides.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Oh good lord, people.

By default, all EE RP's are considered to be open to all members of EE with reasonable justification for entering an RP. It's politics. Deal with it. It is POLITE to ask permission first, and people within a thread can make reasonable restrictions on the number of people allowed, but you can't pick a fight and then expect a nation's allies to just sit back with their thumbs up their asses.

That said, Solar Islam needs to add some background to his posts. EE has standards a bit higher than "Suddenly, invasion!"

This is a community. Your threads are not your special club that you get to pick and choose who you admit into it within the context of EE. If you don't want people from regular NSFT coming in, whatever, that's fine, they're all far away and we hate them for being aliens and having funny accents.

[New-Canaan]

Sorry New Canaan I thought that it would be nice to help get Solar Islam involved in a post. He isn't going to invade but is there to determine why I am there. Since he isn't welcome to join in I am sure that our posts will revolve around why I am there and then he will leave. Thus you don't have a third invading party and Solar Islam can post a little more without having to retract everything. I apologize for not asking and informing you earlier. I hope this is agreeable to both sides.

No. Nooo. I don't want him posting in our thread. Sorry, you'll just have to tell him to leave.

@OMG,

I honestly don't care about the whole "If he's in an alliance with someone else, that someone gets to come in the thread", I have the right to tell someone to get out of the thread if I don't want them to invade me.

[Empire Netherlands]

Ok time for an OP ruling here before this gets even more out of hand. After reading through the posts here and Solar Islams post on New Canaan's thread I have a few things to say.

Solar Islam the post quality you have on New-Canaan's thread is bad. Spelling errors and various other things including sending a whole military unit to go ask the Caliphate why they are in the conflict. Why not just send a diplomat to the Caliphate capital? Also you would need to get air/space clearence from FSA, CSA, Britian, Pacific Republic or Russia just to get to the place (seeing as you are not supported by NCC who probably has enough sway to get the other powers to not ask about the Cordoba ship coming over America). Please do posts that have you doing a build up before going in so other people can be warned.

New-Canaan as OMG said E:E is about politics, please do not pull what Ming did before and refuse entry to people who had damn good reasons to enter in on his war. If the other side has actually good justifications for entering a thread then they can enter the thread.

Admitidly in this case I do not see why the Caliphate of Islam would be involved in this and farther then an investigation role to figure out why Cordoba is sending soldiers across the world to fight in some backwater desert that no one cares about. Deploying an actual armed force seems very strange to me because why the heck would The Caliphate of Islam care about the war over a backwater desert that no one cares about.

At the same time though if the Caliphate actually had a good reason to enter this war you let him in. At this point though I would say they do not have a good enough reason to send an actual military force to this conflict. They have enough reason to send advisors or investigators though (as in like 6 staffers or something). (Reasons for saying they do not have enough reason for an actual armed force is that 1. they are a bit annoyed at the Caliphate of Cordoba especially seeing as its working with other powers, and 2. why send soldiers to go help the guys who you are kind of annoyed at fight over a worthless piece of desert). Remember deploying soldiers that far away is expensive especially when you bring your own equipment.

Thus is my ruling.

[New-Canaan]

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I respect you Ekilion, very much. We stuck it out together way back when. I don't appreciate the fact Solar Islam overlooked my whole entire country, enough to land inside it and deploy troops. He put nothing into the post, I disagree with OMG, I don't think he has any reason for coming to Zion to figure out something he could solve in North Africa. His involvement was never mentioned anywhere in the planning of "Baptism by Fire", he essentially barged into territory he doesn't need to be in. This is free-form RolePlay. He has posted an unwanted excursion into Zion and I don't appreciate it. I have the right to refuse him involvement in the grand scheme of the RP. This isn't anything like China's old player, I'm a reasonable person and I've made a reasonable request when I tell Solar Islam that he cannot post in "Baptism by Fire".

[FS_America]

finished my post

[Rustika]

finished my post

Bout' time, jk thanks

[Of The Arch ilands]

finished my post

Bout' time, jk thanks

I hope its okay i took a few liberties with the space battle over the washigntonline i hope its okay if its not ill gladly talk it over and change as just trying to make things a little dramatic! lol

[Solar Islam]

Ok time for an OP ruling here before this gets even more out of hand. After reading through the posts here and Solar Islams post on New Canaan's thread I have a few things to say.

Solar Islam the post quality you have on New-Canaan's thread is bad. Spelling errors and various other things including sending a whole military unit to go ask the Caliphate why they are in the conflict. Why not just send a diplomat to the Caliphate capital? Also you would need to get air/space clearence from FSA, CSA, Britian, Pacific Republic or Russia just to get to the place (seeing as you are not supported by NCC who probably has enough sway to get the other powers to not ask about the Cordoba ship coming over America). Please do posts that have you doing a build up before going in so other people can be warned.

New-Canaan as OMG said E:E is about politics, please do not pull what Ming did before and refuse entry to people who had damn good reasons to enter in on his war. If the other side has actually good justifications for entering a thread then they can enter the thread.

Admitidly in this case I do not see why the Caliphate of Islam would be involved in this and farther then an investigation role to figure out why Cordoba is sending soldiers across the world to fight in some backwater desert that no one cares about. Deploying an actual armed force seems very strange to me because why the heck would The Caliphate of Islam care about the war over a backwater desert that no one cares about.

At the same time though if the Caliphate actually had a good reason to enter this war you let him in. At this point though I would say they do not have a good enough reason to send an actual military force to this conflict. They have enough reason to send advisors or investigators though (as in like 6 staffers or something). (Reasons for saying they do not have enough reason for an actual armed force is that 1. they are a bit annoyed at the Caliphate of Cordoba especially seeing as its working with other powers, and 2. why send soldiers to go help the guys who you are kind of annoyed at fight over a worthless piece of desert). Remember deploying soldiers that far away is expensive especially when you bring your own equipment.

Thus is my ruling.

I acknowledge and accept your ruling with respect. I apologize for my defensiveness and poor rp'ing. I guess that will be the last post i write on an iPhone.
I apologize to NCC and Zion especially.

[Solar CSA]

I've never RPed with orbital drops, so FS Im going to assume its like 40k Space Marines
In which case many pods would be destroyed as they impacted against the regimental shields of the guns and the city shields of knoxville. Then your going to be fighting appx. 1320 artillery crew men issued with carbines, and a regiment of cavalry who were headed to join up with the Corps Asheville (the other two are already there) and two or three regiments of irregular line infantry guarding the city as well as a regiment of Cuban regular line infantry

Also, my post should be up at the latest after school monday

[Of The Arch ilands]

I've never RPed with orbital drops, so FS Im going to assume its like 40k Space Marines
In which case many pods would be destroyed as they impacted against the regimental shields of the guns and the city shields of knoxville. Then your going to be fighting appx. 1320 artillery crew men issued with carbines, and a regiment of cavalry who were headed to join up with the Corps Asheville (the other two are already there) and two or three regiments of irregular line infantry guarding the city as well as a regiment of Cuban regular line infantry

Also, my post should be up at the latest after school monday

yeh thats cool E:E orbital drops sorta do work in the same way as 40K drops i think ive never done it either lol so i will be asking OMG a few questions when i next see him.

[Empire Netherlands]

Oribtal drops change drasticly between nations. Some people use multiple troop pods (ones that hold like 10 guys) others (like myself) use single person pods in the hopes of overwhelming AA defenses, and some guys use dropships. No matter which way you do it casualties tend to be high when dropped directly into combat. Especially if the enemy is ready for you (not sure if they would be in this case but just saying)

[Solar Castile]

Well, if anyone has ever played Command and Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars, they know what my droppods are like, 6-8 guys in a single unit, and about 24 of them are deployed from the Christopher-Columbus-class per ship. AND IT TOOK YOU LONG ENOUGH. @ Arch.

/goes to post.

[Of The Arch ilands]

Well, if anyone has ever played Command and Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars, they know what my droppods are like, 6-8 guys in a single unit, and about 24 of them are deployed from the Christopher-Columbus-class per ship. AND IT TOOK YOU LONG ENOUGH. @ Arch.

/goes to post.

ooooh yeh forogt to add the bit where Winters says liase with the spanish and let them know whats going on with the whole brake out thing. so RP as youu know its about to happen or is coming. ill have the actual brake out starting next post.

[Solar Castile]

Well, if anyone has ever played Command and Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars, they know what my droppods are like, 6-8 guys in a single unit, and about 24 of them are deployed from the Christopher-Columbus-class per ship. AND IT TOOK YOU LONG ENOUGH. @ Arch.

/goes to post.

ooooh yeh forogt to add the bit where Winters says liase with the spanish and let them know whats going on with the whole brake out thing. so RP as youu know its about to happen or is coming. ill have the actual brake out starting next post.

K.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

I generally assumed that infantry pods would be designed to carry a squad (8-10 guys, usually) while cavalry pods would probably carry a single person (except for hussars, who would probably drop in infantry pods.) Cavalry and its associated equipment is pretty bulky. You can cram a lot of infantry into a pretty small space

[Of The Arch ilands]

I generally assumed that infantry pods would be designed to carry a squad (8-10 guys, usually) while cavalry pods would probably carry a single person (except for hussars, who would probably drop in infantry pods.) Cavalry and its associated equipment is pretty bulky. You can cram a lot of infantry into a pretty small space

awesome thanks OMG what about them crashing into city shields? would the pass through easily? or would they crash and burn against them?

[OMGeverynameistaken]

I generally assumed that infantry pods would be designed to carry a squad (8-10 guys, usually) while cavalry pods would probably carry a single person (except for hussars, who would probably drop in infantry pods.) Cavalry and its associated equipment is pretty bulky. You can cram a lot of infantry into a pretty small space

awesome thanks OMG what about them crashing into city shields? would the pass through easily? or would they crash and burn against them?

Given the speeds involved, they would probably trigger shields. I imagine city shields would be of the 'hard' variety, in any case. Nothing would get through, in order to prevent siege artillery from setting things on fire.

[Solar Castile]

Which is why I installed these things called breaks.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Which is why I installed these things called breaks.

Which would themselves trigger the shields, most likely, due to the amount of heat generated in slowing the pod down from a speed where it can reasonably avoid incoming fire to a speed where it can pass through a shield.

[Solar Castile]

Tbh dude, you are not shooting my cloud down because you think you can. Unlike Arch I don't deploy them over cities so it's inconsequential whether or not they activate shields.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

Well, given our technology, shooting down individual drop pods is probably fairly easy. The idea would be to spam so many of them, with a lot of them being decoys, that it's basically impossible to shoot down enough of the bastards to make a difference.

That's why when Russia goes in 3 out of 4 pods are decoys. And once they get to a certain altitude, those decoy pods explode and scatter chaff and other assorted distraction goodies all over. And as the regular pods come down, they shed layers which act as chaff as well, while also throwing out flares and discarded rockets.

But yes, if you're not deploying them over cities, it doesn't really matter whether or not they can go through shields. However, slowing a drop pod down is going to involve a rocket motor or some other seriously powerful type of engine, since the things are going to be going very fast on reentry.

[Solar Castile]

Duelly noted.

[Azarea]

I need another post before I start the trading conference.... Anyone up for it?

[Empire Netherlands]

>_> I try to put things back to the way they were and now everyone is dogpiling to kill me >_>But ya I would like to avoid a naval war and avoid bringing the conflict to Europe. A naval war would leave North America in ruins from orbital debry and a war in Europe would be bad fore everyone.