Earth Empires (FT V 4.0, Open)

by **Old Tyrannia** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:33 am

Neo Francia wrote:
Byzantium Imperium wrote:No need to apologize, yet another treason; just another day on Earth. Expect tension, possibly hostility. Which is saddening considering I actually had true alliance in mind.

The Frankish Emperor considers himself King of The Romans. Is that a problem?

Let's put it this way: In a previous version of EE, India was almost completely exterminated because the Padishah-Emperor claimed a title belonging to the Russian Tsar. I should know, I was India. Titles are taken VERY seriously in EE. France is sufficiently powerful to deal with any threat from Constantinople, of course, but I'd still think twice before making a claim that will cause diplomatic tension with another major power, ESPECIALLY one with Russia backing it. You'll be in trouble if anyone ever actually plays Russia. Until then I suppose your safe.

by **Byzantium Imperium** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:33 am

The Greek facade is led by a Caesar of the Julio-Claudian Dynasty; Roman does indeed apply. Caesar does indeed apply, King of the Romans does indeed apply. The Hordes of Gaul should remember their place.

by **Licentiapacisterra** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:35 am

Neo Francia wrote:
Byzantium Imperium wrote:
Frankish Emperor is a barbarian-king of no true standing in the eyes of the Roman Empire; what does that tell you?

It tells us that this Greek facade, has yet to fully understand the glory that is The Frankish Emperor. We shall to educate them...thoroughly.

@TheAbyssinianPlayerwhosenameisextremelylong Don't worry, have faith in The Emperor, and he shall protect you.

Bold stuff - If it helps I am happy to be called LPT.
And thank you for protecting me.

by **Neo Francia** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:41 am

On a serious note, war is the last thing the Empire needs, with all those colonies attempting to rebel and what-not. He's currently trying to find a solution to dealing with that problem. Until then, should Abyssinia desire, the CA will always be open to them. To appease the Roman-pretenders, the title of King of the Romans shall no longer be used. Thus easing tensions, and averting a major war.

by **Licentiapacisterra** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:44 am

Very diplomatic France. :clap:

Shall get the opening post of this RP written up. This'll be an interesting RP.

by **Marzarbul** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:44 am

Abyssinian player, it is I the mighty and powerful nation of Cordoba and I just recently heard that you are looking to join the RHL. Well good sir, if you wish to join then please by all means sign up. But of course it is all up to you whether or not you join the RHL or the dastardly CA with their Martel the Quaker! lol

by **Byzantium Imperium** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:46 am

*fishes around for some Roman Princess*

Excellent standing with a solar power, incoming.

by **Solar Castile** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:59 am

Welcome to the fold, Neo Francia.

Ek; diplostatus change.

Do to, yet unknown and unforseen events the Spanish Empire now holds relations as thus with the following parties.

The Roman Empire - Close

by **Byzantium Imperium** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:00 am

To reiterate that; The Fourth Spanish Empire - Close

Russian influence...Not so much.

by **Licentiapacisterra** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:07 am

Marzarbul wrote:Abyssinian player, it is I the mighty and powerful nation of Cordoba and I just recently heard that you are looking to join the RHL. Well good sir, if you wish to join then please by all means sign up. But of course it is all up to you whether or not you join the RHL or the dastardly CA with their Martel the Quaker! lol

Well Cordoba, your league will have to make some pretty good offers to draw the Emperor's eye. "Martel the Quaker" has had a headstart on you.

by **Solar Castile** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:11 am

Ek, my propsoal.

The Spanish Coalition - A league of nations minor and large gathered in the shadow of the Spanish Empire; they vary in strength, stablity and even style of government; they're some of Spain's greatest allies, even those who were once enemies.

ie; the official roster of the PPP.

by **Old Tyrannia** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:15 am

Solar Castile wrote:Ek, my propsoal.

The Spanish Coalition - A league of nations minor and large gathered in the shadow of the Spanish Empire; they vary in strength, stablity and even style of government; they're some of Spain's greatest allies, even those who were once enemies.

ie; the official roster of the PPP.

After Great Power status, eh, Castile?

by **Solar Castile** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:16 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Solar Castile wrote:Ek, my propsoal.

The Spanish Coalition - A league of nations minor and large gathered in the shadow of the Spanish Empire; they vary in strength, stablity and even style of government; they're some of Spain's greatest allies, even those who were once enemies.

ie; the official roster of the PPP.

After Great Power status, eh, Castile?

I'm there already, actually. I just lack a coalition such as the RHL or CA or RC. I'm IN the CA for that matter.

by **-Costa Luna-** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:34 am

The RHL isn't universally despised by almost every other nation on the planet.

/case made.

Hi new France, Hi new Abyssinia.

by **Licentiapacisterra** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:37 am

-Costa Luna- wrote:The RHL isn't universally despised by almost every other nation on the planet.

/case made.

Hi new France, Hi new Abyssinia.

Hey Italy

by **Neo Francia** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:26 am

Hello Italy.

Armored War Elephants with Guns, your thoughts people.

by **Licentiapacisterra** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:31 am

Sounds like futuristic Hannibal Lecter to me

by **Old Tyrannia** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:39 am

Neo Francia wrote:Hello Italy.

Armored War Elephants with Guns, your thoughts people.

That's been done as well. By me. Although they were robotic elephants. I'm not really doing a good job of improving Anglo-French relations by telling you all your ideas have been done before, am I?

by **Neo Francia** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:47 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Neo Francia wrote:Hello Italy.

Armored War Elephants with Guns, your thoughts people.

That's been done as well. By me. Although they were robotic elephants. I'm not really doing a good job of improving Anglo-French relations by telling you all your ideas have been done before, am I?

They do say that Great minds think alike. Does England still control Gibraltar?

by **OMGeverynameistaken** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:49 am

I'd say that the "King/Emperor of the Romans" title has been so watered down over the ages that, even if there is an official claimant to it, they would have a hard time proving their case. I mean, even in modern times it was difficult to track who REALLY had the title.

What matters are titles IN FACT. If I claim to be King of Derpistan, and hold that nation physically in my power, then another guy comes along and says "No, I'M king of Derpistan!" then it becomes an issue. If somebody claims to be 'King of the Romans'...Well, pretty much everybody claims to be King of the Romans. It, at most, warrants a few skirmishes if somebody wants to solidify their claim on that particular title for prestige reasons, but it's not really worth actually going to war over.

And no, England doesn't control Gibraltar.

by **Old Tyrannia** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:53 am

OMGeverynameistaken wrote:I'd say that the "King/Emperor of the Romans" title has been so watered down over the ages that, even if there is an official claimant to it, they would have a hard time proving their case. I mean, even in modern times it was difficult to track who REALLY had the title.

What matters are titles IN FACT. If I claim to be King of Derpistan, and hold that nation physically in my power, then another guy comes along and says "No, I'M king of Derpistan!" then it becomes an issue. If somebody claims to be 'King of the Romans'...Well, pretty much everybody claims to be King of the Romans. It, at most, warrants a few skirmishes if somebody wants to solidify their claim on that particular title for prestige reasons, but it's not really worth actually going to war over.

Well, there you go. I'd say OMG's judgement outranks mine. But I'd still be cautious about claiming that particular title when it's ALREADY the centre of some dispute between Italy and the Roman Empire. Might be best to avoid being sucked into that particular debate.

Also, ROBOT ELEPHANTS:

by **Neo Francia** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:56 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:I'd say that the "King/Emperor of the Romans" title has been so watered down over the ages that, even if there is an official claimant to it, they would have a hard time proving their case. I mean, even in modern times it was difficult to track who REALLY had the title.

What matters are titles IN FACT. If I claim to be King of Derpistan, and hold that nation physically in my power, then another guy comes along and says "No, I'M king of Derpistan!" then it becomes an issue. If somebody claims to be 'King of the Romans'...Well, pretty much everybody claims to be King of the Romans. It, at most, warrants a few skirmishes if somebody wants to solidify their claim on that particular title for prestige reasons, but it's not really worth actually going to war over.

Well, there you go. I'd say OMG's judgement outranks mine. But I'd still be cautious about claiming that particular title when it's ALREADY the centre of some dispute between Italy and the Roman Empire. Might be best to avoid being sucked into that particular debate.

Also, ROBOT ELEPHANTS:

I now introduce the newest member of The Frankish Military...
Shock and awe my friends, shock and awe...

by **Of The Arch ilands** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:08 pm

I think Abysinnia player should take his position in clearly. It is only an independent state because of Russia due to there religious ties. Abyssinia Owes Russia for keeping it Independent from aggressive powers like France for so long. Whilst Abyssinia is developed and powerful enough to do its own things now and defend its self relatively well (Abyssinian Armies are already westernised.... to an extent). You are free to do what you want but when a Russian player does come along Russia will be pissed if you left them after all they did for you.

by **Licentiapacisterra** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:16 pm

Of The Arch ilands wrote:I think Abysinnia player should take his position in clearly. It is only an independent state because of Russia due to there religious ties. Abyssinia Owes Russia for keeping it Independent from aggressive powers like France for so long. Whilst Abyssinia is developed and powerful enough to do its own things now and defend its self relatively well (Abyssinian Armies are already westernised.... to an extent). You are free to do what you want but when a Russian player does come along Russia will be pissed if you left them after all they did for you.

Fair enough. But any Russian player will feel the same way if they've lost Japan and Kalifornia (possibly). Like I said in the original post, I've got no problem with not doing that. I just thought it would be a good idea. I'll keep thinking.

by **Licentiapacisterra** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:18 pm

Licentiapacisterra wrote:
Of The Arch ilands wrote:I think Abysinnia player should take his position in clearly. It is only an independent state because of Russia due to there religious ties. Abyssinia Owes Russia for keeping it Independent from aggressive powers like France for so long. Whilst Abyssinia is developed and powerful enough to do its own things now and defend its self relatively well (Abyssinian Armies are already westernised.... to an extent). You are free to do what you want but when a Russian player does come along Russia will be pissed if you left them after all they did for you.

Fair enough. But any Russian player will feel the same way if they've lost Japan and Kalifornia (possibly). Like I said in the original post, I've got no problem with not doing that. I just thought it would be a good idea. I'll keep thinking.

I also would prefer to ally myself with a great power that's actually being played at the moment.

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