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Postby Premislyd » Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:15 pm

Since I've watched nothing but Behind Enemy Lines for the past 8 hours, I again toss out a sort of Bosnian-Serbian War, I'll even let it happen in my country since Hungarians have never liked Romanians(and vise-versa ofc.) ever since the Austrian-Hungarian Empire and Romania fought during WW1

Edit: What the hell happened to Mahdah invading Denmark... that was suppose to be our World War >:(
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Postby The Belkanlands » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:44 pm

neeeevermind.
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Postby Premislyd » Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:52 pm

The Belkanlands wrote:*cough*

Fuck yeah.... I get to have my Star Destroyers!

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Oh.... yeah.... I gotta get to the technological level of Star Destroyers..... so for now I just have my TIE Fighter....
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Postby Allied Governments » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:07 am

The Belkanlands wrote:*cough*


Hate to be a buzzkill, but the ability to discover habitable planets and then actually have the tech to develop a craft to get to them within an IC week of discovering them is well beyond the ability of even Tech 10 nations in the early game (which this still basically is since no story progression has really occurred other then a bunch of summits and an early war, as other RPs seem to be on ice right now.)

This is a world that lacks space stations or non-commercial satellites (there may be a military sat up there if you try), to say nothing of the tech necessary to develop a space program. The tech simply isn't there currently.

Finally, think of the RP implications of a habitable world. By saying you discovered one, you're basically saying, "Screw MT, we're going straight to FT." You'd be forcing the OP to draw up a totally new world with totally new landmasses and possibly entire new nations. Most importantly however, you're throwing away the threat of being conquered or attacked. If your nation (or another) forms a colony on that world, you're effectively safe from your nation being wiped out via invasion or absorption on Earth.

Besides, this is Planet Earth, not Planet Earth and Gliese :p

Look, hate to say it, but you're a tech 6 nation which would be analogous to saying Egypt or Libya discovered a habitable world along with an FTL drive. In 2011. Not even the highest tech nation in this RP could hope to discover another world, to say nothing of developing an FTL drive (that is the realm of tech 100 nations, even then it's kinda iffy.) The fact you have an Economy of 6 also doesn't bode well since that sorta determines the ability for a nation to maintain a costly program (which would imply you either spent most of your GDP on this, or developed an economical FTL drive, which would be odd.)


Note: At times in this explanation I have a feeling I might've come across as a pretentious douche, which I'd like to apologize for as I was never intending on trying to insult anyone.
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Postby Chemaki » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:29 am

I'm desperate for a new, long-term RP, so count me in!


Player Name: Chemaki
Nation Name: The Unified Nations of Nova Roma (Shorthand: Nova Roma/UNNR)
Land: Italy, Tunisia, Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia, Slovenia (I know, it's 5, but Slovenia, Serbia, Croatia, and Bosnia are pretty damn tiny land-wise, and I have no power nations)
Capital: Rome
Primary Language: Neo-Latin (Basically Italian but with Latin syntax)
Currency: Florents

Point Distribution: (Points per attribute, for a total of 30 points between all five attributes)
Raw Population: (8/10)
Economic Power: (6/10)
Technology: (8/10)
Military Strength: (5/10)
Social Dynamics: (3/10)

Government Type:
Dictato-Republic (There is an elected council, but also a permenant Head of State)
Head of State: Honourific Dictator
Population: 174,000,000
Military Size: 450,000
Brief Background Of Your Nation: One of the oldest empires on the European continent, Nova Roma was a reformation of the old Roman Empire, after Renaissance Italy was pressured by Mahdah and the Duchy of Kent. After reforming as a unified Italy, along with a strip of the West Balkans, Nova Roma slowly grew back over the years to encompass a large section of the West Balkans, Sicily, and Tunisia. Over the years, however, Nova Roma has also grown more inwardly insecure - Its culture is very strict and uniform, and it is unlike other European countries - It is heavily religious, and God-fearing, and its citizen follows strong social conventions. Nova Roma currently has a range of local natural resources from the foothills and farmland in Northern Italy, to the vinyards in Southern Italy, to the rivers and small oil deposits in the Balkans and Tunisia. Nova Roma keeps minimal contact with other nations, and, thus has fairly neutal, balanced relations.

The Belkanlands wrote:*cough*


Alright, I'm new (to this RP, at least), but I -need- to chip in here. We've just discovered Gliese IRL, and, although people think it's habitable, we are barely even into reseraching if it is (it probably isn't). It would be impossible to, with current tech, do this. Mabye after 10-15 years, we'll have a clear indication on Gliese's makeup. After 50, or 100 more years, we'll have the technology to send manned probes outside of the solar system. Mabye after 200 years, we'll be able to send ships on 1,000 year voyages to Gliese. It would still bankrupt your nation, however, and nobody would think of attempting it. And, how, in God's fucking name, does an 'Ion propulsion system' work? It doesn't.

Anyways, Belkan, you're not even accepted, so your post is null and void. Stop attempting to canon-rape this modern RP, and go play Future RP if you want to do this shit.
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Postby Oseancia » Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:50 am

The Belkanlands wrote:*cough*


...ar3 you an accepted nation in PE? I dont have any record of your approval in my archives bruh.

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Postby Premislyd » Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:54 am

Chemaki wrote:-Snip-


Thank you for ruining my plan in the Balkans.... I still got Moldova thought unless evil Ukraine tries to takes it from us >:(
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Postby Allied Governments » Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:07 am

Premislyd wrote:
Chemaki wrote:-Snip-


Thank you for ruining my plan in the Balkans.... I still got Moldova thought unless evil Ukraine tries to takes it from us >:(


Hey you guys got some fun days ahead, good RP material right here.
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Postby Arcultia » Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:09 am

Yeah, but it is still too many nations. :P
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Postby Premislyd » Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:17 am

Arcultia wrote:Yeah, but it is still too many nations. :P

Nein! Sie kommunistischen Schweine! Moldawien ist mein, und ihr werdet es nicht haben!

Bosnia and Croatia are rather large compared to others... Slovenia I can understand though, might I interest you in Albania
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Postby Eastern Vchak » Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:38 am

Accepted, denied?
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Postby Premislyd » Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:45 am

Allied Governments wrote:
The Belkanlands wrote:*cough*


Note: At times in this explanation I have afeeling I might've come across as a pretentious douche, which I'd like to apologize for as I was never intending on trying to insult anyone.


You're welcome for editing that for you :p
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Postby Allied Governments » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:28 am

Premislyd wrote:
Allied Governments wrote:
Note: At times in this explanation I have afeeling I might've come across as a pretentious douche, which I'd like to apologize for as I was never intending on trying to insult anyone.


You're welcome for editing that for you :p


There's one in every RP of this size ;)
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Postby Allied Governments » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:29 am

Arcultia wrote:Yeah, but it is still too many nations. :P


Since most of the countries in Europe have pretty large militaries, imagine the awesome wars you could wage!

Look, what is everyone going to do after the Warsaw Pact? We've already Summited ourselves out, so the only option is either annexation, character-RPs of people doing things, and wars against other players.
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Postby Premislyd » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:36 am

Yes but if it wasn't for the consequences I could face, I would've carved a path to Belgrade by now
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Postby Allied Governments » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:43 am

Premislyd wrote:Yes but if it wasn't for the consequences I could face, I would've carved a path to Belgrade by now


For any worthwhile action there's a consequence, the only thing you need to think about is if the consequence can be avoided or weakened, or if the benefit outweighs it.
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Postby Premislyd » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:47 am

Yeah I usually never think... I just steam roll then when the consequence comes just go rob another piggy bank thats closest
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Postby The Belkanlands » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:52 am

Alright, I'm new (to this RP, at least), but I -need- to chip in here. We've just discovered Gliese IRL, and, although people think it's habitable, we are barely even into reseraching if it is (it probably isn't). It would be impossible to, with current tech, do this. Mabye after 10-15 years, we'll have a clear indication on Gliese's makeup. After 50, or 100 more years, we'll have the technology to send manned probes outside of the solar system. Mabye after 200 years, we'll be able to send ships on 1,000 year voyages to Gliese. It would still bankrupt your nation, however, and nobody would think of attempting it. And, how, in God's fucking name, does an 'Ion propulsion system' work? It doesn't.

Anyways, Belkan, you're not even accepted, so your post is null and void. Stop attempting to canon-rape this modern RP, and go play Future RP if you want to do this shit.

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Hmmm.

1) You just submitted an application. I am part of this RP, and have been for about a week. Learn to read.
2)
The Suspension of Disbelief and the Fairness Doctrine

The defining aspect to Planet Earth is a concept known as the suspension of disbelief. Through it, concepts not necessarily realized or even possible in the real world - alternate races, emerging technologies, theoretical political and social states, and the like - are entirely possible within the boundaries of Planet Earth. In order to release the restrictions upon players, things not necessarily seen in standard MT are open to exploration and development within Planet Earth.

Now, it's more than logical to read that and think that players will get out of hand or even ridiculous, leading to a vicious circle of spiraling overpowered nations plowing the way to victory with ray guns and Utopian super-strong vampire armies - and thus in an effort to provide a level playing field for both new NS members and veterans alike, Planet Earth introduces a concept referred to hereafter as the Fairness Doctrine.

What this concept incorporates revolves around a state of balance. Realism is not enforced, yet it remains the easiest way to create a nation - as it is, after all, real and explained in the modern world. Players are encouraged to expand upon the limits of the real world within Planet Earth and incorporate their ideas of establishing a nation insofar that it does not hurt competitive fairness and a chance for others to do the same. Thus, Planet Earth's suspension of disbelief is guided by Newton's Third Law of Motion - to every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

In layman's terms, this enforces a system of balance that is key to the operation of Planet Earth as a creative matrix. For every positive or benefit generated by an idea not feasible in the real world, an equal or greater negative or drawback must exist to counter and provide opportunities to other players in the sake of fairness. A few examples so you're not too confused by this concept:

Example 1: Nation A has a minority population of genetically modified human beings, thanks to an unrestricted government-funded genetics program. This minority is stronger and smarter than the average human being, providing an advantage over standard humans. These require a drawback to outweigh such benefits - and an example of that being that such advanced humans are looked down upon by society and oppressed, and additionally suffer short lifespans with increased risks for far more dangerous cancers and other bodily harms due to their genetic upbringing.

Example 2: Nation B has developed, over the past 50 years, advanced handheld infantry weapons using microwaves to kill enemy combatants from the inside. These are capable of ignoring body armor and are exceptionally lethal. Drawbacks are necessary - and some potential ones being that said weapons are insanely expensive, are relatively rare, often malfunction/overheat/are affected by environmental conditions, have extremely short ranges, and so on.

What I'm stressing here is for you, the player, to put thought into your nation - to treat it as your baby and sculpt it as you wish. At the same time, afford everyone else the same chance - I aim to provide a level playing field ultimately, hindered only by a liberal interpretation of the [MT] tag and a player's creativity in exploiting that. While I want all players to have fun in designing a nation beyond NS's normal MT limits and utilizing it on a smaller world where relationships are easy to cultivate, I also want to create an RPing community here that all can enjoy.


3) Please remove the stick from your anus and learn to have fun.

Good day to you sir.
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Postby Premislyd » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:57 am

The Suspension of Disbelief and the Fairness Doctrine

The defining aspect to Planet Earth is a concept known as the suspension of disbelief. Through it, concepts not necessarily realized or even possible in the real world - alternate races, emerging technologies, theoretical political and social states, and the like - are entirely possible within the boundaries of Planet Earth. In order to release the restrictions upon players, things not necessarily seen in standard MT are open to exploration and development within Planet Earth.

Now, it's more than logical to read that and think that players will get out of hand or even ridiculous, leading to a vicious circle of spiraling overpowered nations plowing the way to victory with ray guns and Utopian super-strong vampire armies - and thus in an effort to provide a level playing field for both new NS members and veterans alike, Planet Earth introduces a concept referred to hereafter as the Fairness Doctrine.

What this concept incorporates revolves around a state of balance. Realism is not enforced, yet it remains the easiest way to create a nation - as it is, after all, real and explained in the modern world. Players are encouraged to expand upon the limits of the real world within Planet Earth and incorporate their ideas of establishing a nation insofar that it does not hurt competitive fairness and a chance for others to do the same. Thus, Planet Earth's suspension of disbelief is guided by Newton's Third Law of Motion - to every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

In layman's terms, this enforces a system of balance that is key to the operation of Planet Earth as a creative matrix. For every positive or benefit generated by an idea not feasible in the real world, an equal or greater negative or drawback must exist to counter and provide opportunities to other players in the sake of fairness. A few examples so you're not too confused by this concept:

Example 1: Nation A has a minority population of genetically modified human beings, thanks to an unrestricted government-funded genetics program. This minority is stronger and smarter than the average human being, providing an advantage over standard humans. These require a drawback to outweigh such benefits - and an example of that being that such advanced humans are looked down upon by society and oppressed, and additionally suffer short lifespans with increased risks for far more dangerous cancers and other bodily harms due to their genetic upbringing.

Example 2: Nation B has developed, over the past 50 years, advanced handheld infantry weapons using microwaves to kill enemy combatants from the inside. These are capable of ignoring body armor and are exceptionally lethal. Drawbacks are necessary - and some potential ones being that said weapons are insanely expensive, are relatively rare, often malfunction/overheat/are affected by environmental conditions, have extremely short ranges, and so on.

What I'm stressing here is for you, the player, to put thought into your nation - to treat it as your baby and sculpt it as you wish. At the same time, afford everyone else the same chance - I aim to provide a level playing field ultimately, hindered only by a liberal interpretation of the [MT] tag and a player's creativity in exploiting that. While I want all players to have fun in designing a nation beyond NS's normal MT limits and utilizing it on a smaller world where relationships are easy to cultivate, I also want to create an RPing community here that all can enjoy.


It said 50 years... not 10 years. If I knew we could make stuff up and say we developed in 10-years I would have hover tanks and plasma rifles ;)
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Postby The Belkanlands » Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:59 am

Also @ Allied Governments

Whatever dude. I was trying to get something interesting going since we've been doing absolutely nothing other than sitting around discussing how to humanely fight war and making small talk at summits for God knows how fucking long...

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Postby The Belkanlands » Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:02 pm

Premislyd wrote:It said 50 years... not 10 years. If I knew we could make stuff up and say we developed in 10-years I would have hover tanks and plasma rifles ;)
'It never said 50 in game years ;)

My Nation is more than 50 years old :p
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Postby Arcultia » Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:03 pm

The Belkanlands wrote:
Premislyd wrote:It said 50 years... not 10 years. If I knew we could make stuff up and say we developed in 10-years I would have hover tanks and plasma rifles ;)
'It never said 50 in game years ;)

My Nation is more than 50 years old :p


Yeah, so I can say that for the centuries my nation has been around I've been researching super cannons and nukes that have no range limit.
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Postby Premislyd » Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:07 pm

My nation has developed hover tanks that filters the nitrogen from the air and cycles it as a fuel intake... making them not require fossil fuels. They fire ion bolts, made from sucking the life force from all surrounding plants and have an explosion similar to 100lbs of TNT
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Postby Allied Governments » Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:07 pm

The Belkanlands wrote:Also @ Allied Governments

Whatever dude. I was trying to get something interesting going since we've been doing absolutely nothing other than sitting around discussing how to humanely fight war and making small talk at summits for God knows how fucking long...


Hey I'm at work doing an annexation thread with two more in the works ("With Faith and Steel" and "God Out of the Machine") so you guys could get involved in either of those when they come up (especially God Out of the Machine, since that's basically a tech tour where you guys can see the gadgets I'm offering for sale.)

You guys are sitting on a potential goldmine of European intrigue and wars; lots of different and sometimes conflicting ideologies, massive militaries and population, and a lot of borders to each other equals huge potential for RPs.
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Postby Allied Governments » Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:09 pm

The Belkanlands wrote:
Premislyd wrote:It said 50 years... not 10 years. If I knew we could make stuff up and say we developed in 10-years I would have hover tanks and plasma rifles ;)
'It never said 50 in game years ;)

My Nation is more than 50 years old :p


The problem is that FTL drives are so out there that they pose a dangerous problem for what's acceptable and what's not.

If a tech 6 nation can develop FTL drives over 10 years, what's not to say a Tech 9 like myself developed mobile shield generators or Antimatter reactors in the same amount of time?
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