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Postby Arcultia » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:55 pm

Too bad, did it anyway. How did I do? About to post it on the Nexus thread.
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Postby Oblivion2 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:58 pm

So we have to fill it in during the Convention? I think normally the host country writes a draft and then we get together and compromise, edit, and then sign it?
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Postby Arcultia » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:01 pm

I posted earlier how I thought would be a good way to do it, I expect some answers (i.e. "I think that might work," "Nah, we should do it another way...")
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Postby Oblivion2 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:02 pm

Well it's your thread. Also the Protection of Neutral entities Clause would prevent you from invading Denmark and would leave you open to even worse political reprecussions up to and including invasion

EDIT: Saaren when you see this i'm still waiting for a post in the world summit from you.
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Postby Allied Governments » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:03 pm

Oblivion2 wrote:Well it's your thread. Also the Protection of Neutral entities Clause would prevent you from invading Denmark and would leave you open to even worse political reprecussions up to and including invasion


Too late with Lithuania :p

How about it taking place in my nation, and we can call it the Jerusalem Accords.
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Allied Governments wrote:
Oblivion2 wrote:Well it's your thread. Also the Protection of Neutral entities Clause would prevent you from invading Denmark and would leave you open to even worse political reprecussions up to and including invasion


Too late with Lithuania :p

How about it taking place in my nation, and we can call it the Jerusalem Accords.


That sounds good, but he already posted the thing
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Postby Arcultia » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:07 pm

You're not neutral when someone declares war on you.
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Postby Oblivion2 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:08 pm

Arcultia wrote:You're not neutral when someone declares war on you.


Denmark never declared war
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Postby Arcultia » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:10 pm

I never said Denmark would.
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Postby Oblivion2 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:11 pm

Well then they're a neutral nation if they don't wanna go to war with you.

Politically they are not aligned against you
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Postby Allied Governments » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:13 pm

A Neutral country is one that lacks any adequate casus belli towards the aggressor nation, or otherwise would choose not to fight if hostilities erupted. Because Denmark has absolutely no reason to go to war against you, they're neutral.

Dammit ninja'd.
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Postby Arcultia » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:13 pm

In my definition of neutral says that you are neutral when you are not taking part or taking sides in a war and are not included in a war yourself. If you are declared war on then you aren't neutral. We will discuss that at the convention, we can start posting IC arrivals?
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Postby Oblivion2 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:17 pm

Arcultia wrote:In my definition of neutral says that you are neutral when you are not taking part or taking sides in a war and are not included in a war yourself. If you are declared war on then you aren't neutral. We will discuss that at the convention, we can start posting IC arrivals?


Damn rights we'll discuss it. If you invade someone who does not wish to go to war then you are considered the aggressor. If both nations agree to go to war (Such as the case of Russia and Germany in WWI) then your not neutral.

For example it'd be like Germany invading Poland in WWII. You'd definately call Poland Neutral wouldn't you....

Allied Governments wrote:A Neutral country is one that lacks any adequate casus belli towards the aggressor nation, or otherwise would choose not to fight if hostilities erupted. Because Denmark has absolutely no reason to go to war against you, they're neutral.

Dammit ninja'd.


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Postby Premislyd » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:48 pm

I go swim for an hour and this happens...
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Postby Delglania » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:53 pm

Allied Governments wrote:
Arcultia wrote:Then it shall be a pleasure cutting down your troops with machine gun fire. :lol:


Pfft, you'll fear the skies once I begin raining down precision munitions from hundreds of miles away.

I am so glad my nation is in South America...far from all you war mongers :lol:
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Postby Allied Governments » Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:59 pm

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Pfft, you'll fear the skies once I begin raining down precision munitions from hundreds of miles away.

I am so glad my nation is in South America...far from all you war mongers :lol:


Well you DO have that revolution going on, so...
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Postby Oblivion2 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:03 pm

Hey AG wheres your post??
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Postby Arcultia » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:04 pm

Still, anyone who is coming (better be all of you :3) can post arriving IC posts. :)
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Postby Allied Governments » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:20 pm

Oblivion, before you post in Deus Vult just remember that there is a glass-separator between the further half of the observation deck (the one farther from the elevator) that would be where your person and Brandon would speak, so just have them both enter that area before stating your terms.
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Postby Oblivion2 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:20 pm

I'll be there... I'm just watching Spaceballs right now :p

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Postby Premislyd » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:26 pm

I'll be there (Maybe... If invited :p )

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Postby Drekon » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:31 pm

Sorry for the late application, but here it is:

Player Name: Drekon
Nation Name: Suid-Afrikaanse Republiek (South African Republic)
Land: South Africa, Lesotho, Swaziland, Botswana, Zimbabwe
Capital: Pretoria
Primary Language: Afrikaans
Currency: South African Oranje

Point Distribution: (Points per attribute, for a total of 30 points between all five attributes)
Raw Population: (7/10)
Economic Power: (5/10)
Technology: (7/10)
Military Strength: (6/10)
Social Dynamics: (5/10)

Government Type: Republic
Head of State: President Johannes Van de Merwe
Population: 81 million
Military Size: 450,000
Brief Background Of Your Nation:

The South African Republic was formed in 1796, a year after Afrikaner colonists successfully revolted against the Dutch East India Company. During the next century, the republic attracted huge amounts of European immigrants (mostly of Dutch, French, and German descent) and greatly expanded its territory through both diplomacy and war with neighboring African tribes. By 1853, the South African Republic had expanded its borders to cover what we know as South Africa, Lesotho, Swaziland, and Botswana.

Blacks living within the borders of the South African Republic were enslaved by their White counterparts during the first century of the Republic, and were not freed until a relatively peaceful abolitionist movement occurred from 1886-1889. Despite gaining citizenship, Blacks were still viewed as second-class citizens and were treated as such. Segregation and race riots were commonplace throughout the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Poor treatment of Blacks continued until 1941, when the South African government finally outlawed segregation and began a nation-wide cultural program promoting racial equality. Over the next few decades, discrimination against Blacks was drastically reduced, and by the late 1970s Blacks had been more or less fully assimilated into South African culture.

The period between 1853-1980 was known as the Age of Peace in the South African Republic due to the lack of any major wars occurring either within its borders or against neighboring Africans. However, the Age of Peace ended in 1980 with the beginning of the Righteous War.

The Commune of Shona, which covers the area of what we know as Zimbabwe, was a communist nation that had been established in 1965 by a coalition of relatively modernized African tribes. The Commune grew quite powerful and influential within 10 years of its founding, and in 1975 workers and farmers in the South African Republic began to demand more rights from their employers and the government. The South African government tried to quell this unrest by enacting widespread anti-communist propaganda throughout the country, painting both the Commune and communism itself as undesirable. The propaganda had a profound effect on the people, and in 1979 the staunchly anti-communist President Jakobus Geldenhuis was elected to power. With overwhelming popular support, President Geldenhuis declared war on the Commune of Shona in 1980, and the Righteous War had begun.

Despite having both a numerical and technological advantage, the war was long and bloody due to the guerilla tactics utilized by Shona forces. However, the war finally ended in 1990 with the surrender of the last few remaining Shona military leaders. As a result, the Commune of Shona was annexed by the South African Republic, and all remaining Shona communist sympathizers were found and executed. The victory over the communists boosted the morale of the republic and caused its people to develop a strong sense of national unity and pride. However, the new unwilling citizens of the republic were not so lucky. Ethnic Shona have been discriminated against for the past 21 years by both Whites and Blacks, and this ethnic and ideological tension has caused a new age of segregation and race riots that continues to this day.

Rooiland wrote:Hello Saaren, just wondering is South Africa already claimed? or do you think that might be to big a country for me, if so Leshoto is Ok to

I have already claimed South Africa, but if you'd like you can take Lesotho and play as some sort of separatist faction in my nation. Or you could take some neighboring countries like Namibia or Mozambique, it would be interesting to have some neighbors.

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Postby Oblivion2 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:42 pm

Quite the sign up page. Unfortuantely you still gotta wait for Saaren
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Postby Premislyd » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:45 pm

Quite impressive, and neighbors suck... they just lead to trouble *looks at Arc*
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Postby Oblivion2 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:46 pm

Premislyd wrote:Quite impressive, and neighbors suck... they just lead to trouble *looks at Arc*


^^ this
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