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Postby Lubyak » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:00 pm

The Osean Empire wrote:in FT when using FTL it says you have to use warp But can you use hyperspace form stargate


You don't 'have' to use Star Trek warp drive. FTL just means 'faster than light'...so any form of faster than light transit you want is ok.

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Postby The Osean Empire » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:48 pm

Lubyak wrote:
The Osean Empire wrote:in FT when using FTL it says you have to use warp But can you use hyperspace form stargate


You don't 'have' to use Star Trek warp drive. FTL just means 'faster than light'...so any form of faster than light transit you want is ok.

thanks one of the RP guide made it seem like that you had to use warp speed and i hat warp drive it is so slow and hyperspace is faster and there are differnet levels that you can use it can be slow or fast like form stargate atlantis it took a zpm powered hive to get from on galaxy to the other a couple of hours
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Postby Former Wellboneland » Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:53 pm

I need help with acquiring big guns and missiles for cheap, I want to nuke something and take no responsibility.
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Postby New Valedonia » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:19 pm

Former Wellboneland wrote:I need help with acquiring big guns and missiles for cheap, I want to nuke something and take no responsibility.


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Postby Tergnitz » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:33 pm

Former Wellboneland wrote:I need help with acquiring big guns and missiles for cheap, I want to nuke something and take no responsibility.

Your issue here is not really about find adequate weaponry, NS has a plethora of that. To carry out the scenario that you are talking about, you will need another nation's consent. ICly it may be a surprise attack, but such an idea is never going to fly unless you talk to then first.

I'd recommend writing up an OOC thread detailing the main idea you're trying to achieve in an IC sense;waitress to see if anyone's interested, and then work the specifics out with them from there.

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Postby Teotan » Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:14 pm

For all you fascists in da house!
Okay this is serious now.
I am a communist (okay, slightly Baathist in influence), and I was looking to become more fascist. How would a fascist rise to power in a country, or what would e accepted among those who sip their drink next to a roaring fire under a fasces? Do you draw a line at coup or guerrilla war, what exactly is MT/PMT fascism?

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Postby Radiatia » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:01 pm

Teotan wrote:For all you fascists in da house!
Okay this is serious now.
I am a communist (okay, slightly Baathist in influence), and I was looking to become more fascist. How would a fascist rise to power in a country, or what would e accepted among those who sip their drink next to a roaring fire under a fasces? Do you draw a line at coup or guerrilla war, what exactly is MT/PMT fascism?


Your question is a little vague, but I would say if you're a communist country who wants to turn fascist in character, then yes a coup would be the way to go and you could could even RP out that coup happening.

MT/PMT fascism would a fascist country in the modern age (MT) or the near future (e.g. the year 2020) (PMT).

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Postby Xiscapia » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:13 pm

The Osean Empire wrote:in FT when using FTL it says you have to use warp But can you use hyperspace form stargate


I'm not aware of any guide or rule that says you have to use warp for FTL in FT. If there is then I and most of NS FT have been doing it wrong. :p

You can effectively use any method of FTL travel you like from any franchise, including hyperspace from Stargate. You can even make up your own. There are no restrictions; it's one of the few places where hand waving it is perfectly acceptable because it's practically magic anyway. So go ahead and use hyperspace from Stargate, it's perfectly acceptable.
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Postby Kandona » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:45 pm

Please, anyone who can answer this, is having 16.77% of a national population a bad thing for a Modern Tech nation?
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Postby Radiatia » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:51 pm

Kandona wrote:Please, anyone who can answer this, is having 16.77% of a national population a bad thing for a Modern Tech nation?


What do you mean?

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Postby Shanix » Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:58 pm

I think he want to ask if having 16.77% of your population in the military bad.

And, depending on how long, yes. If it's momentary, like, getting invaded and 16.77% get drafted into the Regulars/Join Irregulars, then having 16.77% is fine. But, if it's constant, where a full sixth of your population is part of the military, no, go, your nation will collapse in less than 3 years.
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Postby Kandona » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:04 pm

Ok, well then I can RP it as I am building up my military to make sure my population stays protected, or something along those lines

NEXT question..... is it considered Godmodding?
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Postby Tergnitz » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:29 pm

Kandona wrote:Ok, well then I can RP it as I am building up my military to make sure my population stays protected, or something along those lines

NEXT question..... is it considered Godmodding?

Given that it is the population of your own nation, no.

Here is a general definition of godmodding: "Godmodding, in a sense, is the theoretical act whereby one nation assumes "godlike" powers over another nation in the context of a roleplay." Given that you are simply describing the military of your own nation, it is not godmodding. For more about it though, I recommend this guide.

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Postby Radiatia » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:44 pm

Kandona wrote:NEXT question..... is it considered Godmodding?


It COULD be considered number wanking.

16% of the population in the military would have to be during a major war or emergency, otherwise in my opinion it's unrealistic and a bit of a number wank. Although the others beat me to it....

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:48 pm

Radiatia wrote:
Kandona wrote:NEXT question..... is it considered Godmodding?


It COULD be considered number wanking.

16% of the population in the military would have to be during a major war or emergency, otherwise in my opinion it's unrealistic and a bit of a number wank. Although the others beat me to it....

Unless the population is really low than i would think it is godmodding, i RP with a max of 4% conscription rate, and that is only is major war, usually it is 0.5 to 1.5% for mine. I would say 16% is godmodding unless the majority of your nation is killed or you arm them with sticks and stones.
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Postby Tergnitz » Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:02 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Radiatia wrote:
It COULD be considered number wanking.

16% of the population in the military would have to be during a major war or emergency, otherwise in my opinion it's unrealistic and a bit of a number wank. Although the others beat me to it....

Unless the population is really low than i would think it is godmodding, i RP with a max of 4% conscription rate, and that is only is major war, usually it is 0.5 to 1.5% for mine. I would say 16% is godmodding unless the majority of your nation is killed or you arm them with sticks and stones.

No, it wouldnt. Godmodding only involves doing stuff with other people's nations or national actors without their consent.

As pointed out about, it /could/ be considered unrealistic, poor RPing and number wanking; but it is not godmodding.

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:04 pm

Tergnitz wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Unless the population is really low than i would think it is godmodding, i RP with a max of 4% conscription rate, and that is only is major war, usually it is 0.5 to 1.5% for mine. I would say 16% is godmodding unless the majority of your nation is killed or you arm them with sticks and stones.

No, it wouldnt. Godmodding only involves doing stuff with other people's nations or national actors without their consent.

As pointed out about, it /could/ be considered unrealistic, poor RPing and number wanking; but it is not godmodding.

A 16% conscription rate and all of them armed well? Unless they have a really really big military budget that sounds like godmodding to me. But you are the RP mentor i suppose.
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Postby Former Wellboneland » Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:07 pm

I got 6% in wartime and 1% in peace. (military)
Is this unrealistic?
And in big conquests we call the Orc Khans, which makes it 8%, not counting the Wilderness Khans, but Orks are armed with shit guns and decent swords.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:11 pm

Former Wellboneland wrote:I got 6% in wartime and 1% in peace. (military)
Is this unrealistic?

For your population is seems fine to me. Although i would lower it to 4 or 5% in wartime.
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Postby Tergnitz » Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:14 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Tergnitz wrote:No, it wouldnt. Godmodding only involves doing stuff with other people's nations or national actors without their consent.

As pointed out about, it /could/ be considered unrealistic, poor RPing and number wanking; but it is not godmodding.

A 16% conscription rate and all of them armed well? Unless they have a really really big military budget that sounds like godmodding to me. But you are the RP mentor i suppose.

A 16% conscription rate is fine /IF/ you RP having a totally shit economy, as well as the fact that they are armed with rocks or something. If this nation engages in a war RP however, then it starts to verge into the godmod territory if they claim to have none of these negative effects.

There is no clear line on the ground which denotes godmodding; but typically it is seen as RPing another nation, or another nation's actors without their consent. Having such a large and well armed army in this scenario, would just be seen as extremely poor RP form, and people are not likely to RP with you.

Former Wellboneland wrote:I got 6% in wartime and 1% in peace. (military)
Is this unrealistic?

Seems a tad high, but generally okay, especially if make the additional 5% in wartime less experienced and well equiped as the 1% standing army. But remember, this 1% or 6% has to be divided up into however many branches your military has. As well as into 'frontline' troops and 'logisitcal' troops. For example, in the USMC, while every marine may be a rifleman first, not every man marine fights on the frontlines.
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Postby Former Wellboneland » Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:18 pm

Tergnitz wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:A 16% conscription rate and all of them armed well? Unless they have a really really big military budget that sounds like godmodding to me. But you are the RP mentor i suppose.

A 16% conscription rate is fine /IF/ you RP having a totally shit economy, as well as the fact that they are armed with rocks or something. If this nation engages in a war RP however, then it starts to verge into the godmod territory if they claim to have none of these negative effects.

There is no clear line on the ground which denotes godmodding; but typically it is seen as RPing another nation, or another nation's actors without their consent. Having such a large and well armed army in this scenario, would just be seen as extremely poor RP form, and people are not likely to RP with you.

Former Wellboneland wrote:I got 6% in wartime and 1% in peace. (military)
Is this unrealistic?

Seems a tad high, but generally okay, especially if make the additional 5% in wartime less experienced and well equiped as the 1% standing army. But remember, this 1% or 6% has to be divided up into however many branches your military has. As well as into 'frontline' troops and 'logisitcal' troops. For example, in the USMC, while every marine may be a rifleman first, not every man marine fights on the frontlines.

Seems fine.
Though for the Independent cities on our border we send Saiyan elite, but those cities are NPC nations which no one cares about.
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Postby Bears Armed » Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:13 am

Radiatia wrote:
Kandona wrote:NEXT question..... is it considered Godmodding?


It COULD be considered number wanking.

16% of the population in the military would have to be during a major war or emergency, otherwise in my opinion it's unrealistic and a bit of a number wank. Although the others beat me to it....

That's somewhere around twice the level to which Britain resorted during WWII: I'd definitely recommend against it...
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Postby Shanix » Fri Mar 30, 2012 7:36 am

Well, with a smaller population it makes sense.

If you have 10 people, and 50% are military, that's okay.

Conversely, 10 billion people and 50% military? Frak no.

War scenarios are different too. If you're invaded, you can have up to 50% of your population military in some way. But not forever.
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Postby Salzland » Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:08 am

50%? No. There is no way a country could come even remotely close to 50% (with one exception, Lyras, who has put far more research and planning into justifying that than many people spend with this game, period).

Let me put it this way. If there is a scenario where a country would even think of placing every man, woman and child between the ages of 14 and 60 into national defense or defense-related industries, then they have long since collapsed, to the point where even a military victory would result in national self-destruction/suicide. Not exactly a rousing cause to rally that 50% of the population behind when they're being sent out to die, right?

5% of the population under arms or committed to defense-related industries is borderline-sustainable (if you receive lots and lots of outside assistance in the form of food subsidies, fuel and heating oil, medicine, etc. from other nations that you have intimidated into bribing you not to attack them), and more than 5% is not sustainable for anything but poorly-armed conscript armies whose training consists of being handed rifles (with little to no ammunition), being pointed in more or less the "right" direction, and told "Go." Also known as the Somali military.

Regarding the size of militaries, the old saying generally holds true that, "Less is more."
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Postby Kandona » Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:12 am

A 16% conscription rate is fine /IF/ you RP having a totally shit economy, as well as the fact that they are armed with rocks or something. If this nation engages in a war RP however, then it starts to verge into the godmod territory if they claim to have none of these negative effects.


Well, my nation does actually have a shit economy, last I checked, it could be better now, idk... And not all of them are armed tooth and nail... I'm sure eventually I will have to actually cut back a bit on the forces, but the foot soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen, are a small part compared to the other jobs in the military. I have the regular military jobs as well, and I never do send more than ABSOLUTELY necessary.. Actually i have been in one war, and was asked to fight in another that was nearly over anyway.. But, my defense budget is 36% of where my currency goes. My nation is deeply in debt, not as bad as others I have compared it to... but its still in debt. And Actually, by looking at it, to give those numbers... my economy is actually very strong ( according to NS ). I just don't want to get hounded for godmodding in war RP. Thats why I am checking to see. Because from what I understood, i guess there is more to it but, godmodding goes something like " Country A nukes Country B, Country B loses the war." OR " Country A cannot be destroyed no matter what Country B,C, or D does to it " And with that scenario, I don't do any of that. I know my people die, that I can't exactly win a war with just a SINGLE nuke ( I have tried on Empire Earth II, doesn't work with just one )... things like that. I am realistic when it comes to war, at least the one I fought in
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