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Postby A m e n r i a » Thu Apr 15, 2021 3:43 am

Romextly wrote:
Central Shaneville wrote:Thanks for the suggestion!

You could also make one on the inauguration or marraige or something


Or make an announcement to the rest of the omniverse that you exist and would like to establish relations.
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Postby Sauros » Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:22 pm

I wanted to start my first thread RP (one which could hopefully be used as world building for my own nation), but I barely know how. I do have a general concept for the "world" of my nation In mind, but besides that, nothing. Can you please assist me? Thank you.
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Postby South Americanastan » Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:16 pm

South Americanastan wrote:After the establishment of static positions, MAC-L orders a campaign of Air Cavalry raids on Malakongese positions, known as Operation Boomstick, harassing the tribal forces. Raids are conducted all across the western border, with minimal casualties. 15 raids are conducted over the course of a week. The casualties so far are:

0 KIA
12 WIA
1 MIA


Malakong-Lokhoj Border

A South Americanastanian D-89 transport helicopter flies over the border. The helicopter is marked with Red Cross insignia, but the men aboard are armed with TRR-A1s. The only soldier to go MIA during Operation Boomstick, SGT Jack Maxson, the commander of a unit of Air Cavalry. He was knocked off of his A-35 Attack Helicopter when it was hit by an RPG, though the helicopter was able to be righted and flew back to base. He is rumored to be in the area. Spotlights shine down into the thick brush. Movement is spotted, and the helicopter is flown down to investigate. The men aboard the helicopter unload, consisting of 2 Rangers and a Medic, while a certified doctor waits onboard, supplied with medical equipment.

As the men sweep the area, a gunshot is heard, and the men go to investigate. They come into a clearing in the brush to find a wounded SGT Maxson, his pistol at his side. Next to him, a dead Malakongese soldier and a burnt-out flare. The medic tends to Maxson's wounds, consisting of a slash on his left arm and a bullet wound in his shoulder. The Rangers load him onto a stretcher, and rush him back to the MedEvac. The Air Cavalry raids end, considered a success, though it is suspected that the Maxson incident is an underlying factor.


This post is currently being challenged by another player for godmodding by controlling his troops. I don't think it is, because I'm not dictating casualties or making his troops retreat. All that is said in this roleplay is that:

A. A Helicopter was his by an RPG while attacking enemy forces
B. A Sergeant who fell out was found, after the gunshot from him killing an enemy soldier tipped off a rescue mission

So; Is it godmodding?
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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:33 pm

Sauros wrote:I wanted to start my first thread RP (one which could hopefully be used as world building for my own nation), but I barely know how. I do have a general concept for the "world" of my nation In mind, but besides that, nothing. Can you please assist me? Thank you.


Off the top of my head, these are the common roleplay types. It's not exhaustive, obviously, and if you search the forums, you can find some other options.
    Festival. This is dependent on some sort of holiday or important event to be celebrated. What is significant in your nation's history that could be the foundation for this? What activities can occur because of this?
    Serious diplomatic meeting, e.g. summit or meeting. What essential goals within your nation warrant this sort of interaction with foreign states?
    Casual major meeting, e.g. ball or dinner. Whereas the serious ones are made to definitely advance a goal, this sort of meeting may be comparatively more casual.
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Postby The Macabees » Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:00 pm

South Americanastan wrote:
South Americanastan wrote:This post is currently being challenged by another player for godmodding by controlling his troops. I don't think it is, because I'm not dictating casualties or making his troops retreat. All that is said in this roleplay is that:

A. A Helicopter was his by an RPG while attacking enemy forces
B. A Sergeant who fell out was found, after the gunshot from him killing an enemy soldier tipped off a rescue mission

So; Is it godmodding?


What makes the scene so important to compel the accusation? The post in the quote seems pretty tame. You RP his forces using RPGs to attack a helicopter — seems pretty standard, but maybe that's not the way his forces would do it if he had RPd the defense himself? You RP a soldier of his dying — I think there's room for individual scenes like that, because deaths will be > 0 so to focus on one is not so big of a deal. Otherwise, you don't take any KIA, but are happy to assume you cause KIA. It leads me to believe that this accusation might be more about pent-up frustration, maybe having to do with feelings on fairness. I could be wrong, I would need to read the thread.

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Postby South Americanastan » Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:38 pm

The Macabees wrote:
South Americanastan wrote:


What makes the scene so important to compel the accusation? The post in the quote seems pretty tame. You RP his forces using RPGs to attack a helicopter — seems pretty standard, but maybe that's not the way his forces would do it if he had RPd the defense himself? You RP a soldier of his dying — I think there's room for individual scenes like that, because deaths will be > 0 so to focus on one is not so big of a deal. Otherwise, you don't take any KIA, but are happy to assume you cause KIA. It leads me to believe that this accusation might be more about pent-up frustration, maybe having to do with feelings on fairness. I could be wrong, I would need to read the thread.

His old nation was Traden, which got hit for godmodding a lot, because he would RP entire offensives and their outcomes in one post. That might be it.
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Cereskia wrote:Bill accidentaly ate it and dies

I was about to say "manpreg happens" but you just saved this thread from a cursed comment from being made.

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Postby Meretica » Wed Jun 23, 2021 6:53 pm

Would a state funeral be based in the "NationStates" forum or "International Incidents"?
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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Wed Jun 23, 2021 8:55 pm

Meretica wrote:Would a state funeral be based in the "NationStates" forum or "International Incidents"?


If it's projected to be fairly peaceable and calm, I'd say the former. If the deceased may be more controversial, the former would still work, but there might be room in the latter.
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Postby Cavirfi » Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:12 pm

What constitutes gravedigging in N&IRP? How long must a thread be left unresponsive before it must never be used again or else it counts as gravedigging?
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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Jun 24, 2021 11:17 am

Cavirfi wrote:What constitutes gravedigging in N&IRP? How long must a thread be left unresponsive before it must never be used again or else it counts as gravedigging?

IIRC the thread's "owner" can always revive it.
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Postby Santheres » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:08 pm

Shwe Tu Colony wrote:
Meretica wrote:Would a state funeral be based in the "NationStates" forum or "International Incidents"?


If it's projected to be fairly peaceable and calm, I'd say the former. If the deceased may be more controversial, the former would still work, but there might be room in the latter.


Given that each forum has its own general community, the answer is really "either" - you'll just likely get more traction in Nationstates than in II - however, no guarantees either way.

Bears Armed wrote:
Cavirfi wrote:What constitutes gravedigging in N&IRP? How long must a thread be left unresponsive before it must never be used again or else it counts as gravedigging?

IIRC the thread's "owner" can always revive it.


Correct, the OP can always revive it. Other players may also if it looks like they were already involved and are simply responding very late. You would not want to be a newcomer into a 2-year-dead thread, however.
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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:24 pm

Santheres wrote:Given that each forum has its own general community, the answer is really "either" - you'll just likely get more traction in Nationstates than in II - however, no guarantees either way.


Aye, the substantial distinction's probably more on community and who may frequent that forum, although character vs conflict was the original intent, apparently.
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Postby Meretica » Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:59 pm

How does one ICly alert the WA to a nation's war crimes?
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The Senate has passed the Thiran Citizenship Act, extending full rights to citizens of the former nation of Thira following the final defeat of the fascist Thiran state; Traditionalist Party leader Jaques vra Jeanarde referred to the passage of the bill as a "travesty" that was empowering the "Thiran Menace."

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Postby Neu Engollon » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:05 pm

Meretica wrote:How does one ICly alert the WA to a nation's war crimes?


You have two routes: RP vs WA/GA gameplay.

You could RP in a thread that your nation is sending envoys to the WA in order to protest the conduct of another nation, and get some other nations on board with that RP, OR...

You can write up an official condemnation as a resolution to the GA, go through the review process, hope it passes review, and then it becomes a Security Council Resolution. Never done it, so don't take that as absolute fact, but that's generally how I understand it is done.
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Postby Meretica » Thu Jul 15, 2021 4:06 pm

Neu Engollon wrote:
Meretica wrote:How does one ICly alert the WA to a nation's war crimes?


You have two routes: RP vs WA/GA gameplay.

You could RP in a thread that your nation is sending envoys to the WA in order to protest the conduct of another nation, and get some other nations on board with that RP, OR...

You can write up an official condemnation as a resolution to the GA, go through the review process, hope it passes review, and then it becomes a Security Council Resolution. Never done it, so don't take that as absolute fact, but that's generally how I understand it is done.

Alright, thank you! c:
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Postby Bears Armed » Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:17 am

Neu Engollon wrote:
Meretica wrote:How does one ICly alert the WA to a nation's war crimes?


You have two routes: RP vs WA/GA gameplay.

You could RP in a thread that your nation is sending envoys to the WA in order to protest the conduct of another nation, and get some other nations on board with that RP, OR...

You can write up an official condemnation as a resolution to the GA, go through the review process, hope it passes review, and then it becomes a Security Council Resolution. Never done it, so don't take that as absolute fact, but that's generally how I understand it is done.

Not entirely correct: You write it up for the SC -- in that forum -- to start with... and, in practice, it's probably impossible to pass a resolution that condemns a nation for war-crimes unless they have a long history [in OOC terms] of such actions, against multiple other nations, and their own RP on the subject has been well-written.
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I think it's a good start. It might help to have something more tangible at stake. Like, why should people care about a change to the rules of succession? What's the source of tension? Successful RPs tend to emotionally involve the people in it otherwise, people's interest starts to dissipate. Maybe it's that an authoritarian right-wing country wants to influence the political process to facilitate the rise of neo-fascist parties. I think helping people find those types of hooks will draw players in and gave them a stake in the outcome.

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Postby Neu Engollon » Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:42 am

Bears Armed wrote:
Neu Engollon wrote:You can write up an official condemnation as a resolution to the GA, go through the review process, hope it passes review, and then it becomes a Security Council Resolution. Never done it, so don't take that as absolute fact, but that's generally how I understand it is done.


Not entirely correct: You write it up for the SC -- in that forum -- to start with... and, in practice, it's probably impossible to pass a resolution that condemns a nation for war-crimes unless they have a long history [in OOC terms] of such actions, against multiple other nations, and their own RP on the subject has been well-written.


I stand corrected. As I said, I have never been through the process. Good to know.
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Postby Flohaland » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:02 am

The Macabees wrote:


I think it's a good start. It might help to have something more tangible at stake. Like, why should people care about a change to the rules of succession? What's the source of tension? Successful RPs tend to emotionally involve the people in it otherwise, people's interest starts to dissipate. Maybe it's that an authoritarian right-wing country wants to influence the political process to facilitate the rise of neo-fascist parties. I think helping people find those types of hooks will draw players in and gave them a stake in the outcome.


So should I add more possible roles that people can play?

Is the problem that it isn't a war RP?

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Postby Cyanie » Fri Aug 13, 2021 5:10 pm

I wanted to know how we do to decide the wins or losses in a rp with another nation. for example, how do you know who wins the battle? and to know where it is happening, how do we do it? or do you just have to agree with your opponent? thank you to all those who will answer me

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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Fri Aug 13, 2021 5:25 pm

Cyanie wrote:I wanted to know how we do to decide the wins or losses in a rp with another nation. for example, how do you know who wins the battle? and to know where it is happening, how do we do it? or do you just have to agree with your opponent? thank you to all those who will answer me


It's usually an OOC decision that will need to be gone over with your roleplay partners, as far as I've known. Here's a guide I had bookmarked.
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Postby Cyanie » Sat Aug 14, 2021 3:07 pm

Shwe Tu Colony wrote:
Cyanie wrote:I wanted to know how we do to decide the wins or losses in a rp with another nation. for example, how do you know who wins the battle? and to know where it is happening, how do we do it? or do you just have to agree with your opponent? thank you to all those who will answer me


It's usually an OOC decision that will need to be gone over with your roleplay partners, as far as I've known. Here's a guide I had bookmarked.


thank you a lot, that help me very much !

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Postby Shwe Tu Colony » Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:51 am

Curious, how do people here, um, write and post in a timely manner? I have a habit of procrastinating on posts for days, weeks, months... and I'm curious if anyone has anything novel to suggest that isn't something like "you just kind of have to do it" or "get into a habit."
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Postby The Macabees » Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:55 pm

Shwe Tu Colony wrote:Curious, how do people here, um, write and post in a timely manner? I have a habit of procrastinating on posts for days, weeks, months... and I'm curious if anyone has anything novel to suggest that isn't something like "you just kind of have to do it" or "get into a habit."


I'm going through a lull in writing now.

Sometimes I'll try to first put together a short, bullet-proof format outline of the post. I tend to use subheadings in my posts and I organize those and determine what each section will about before I start writing, that way the writing part is straightforward and fast. And that way you can get most of the ideation for the post out of your head without being bogged down by the writing part. It makes the two sides of the coin easier to grapple with.

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