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Postby The Macabees » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:34 am

The Imperial Regions of Commerce wrote:I would like to find active, nation states related Role plays, but when I try to join, they say he out or to late. Where do I find good rps that will accept me and is active."


Breaking into an RP as a new player is tough. You don't have much of a network yet, etc.

What I recommend is to find and join a RP region that you can identify with. That's the easiest way of joining a community. Dig in, be proactive, meet people, and pretty soon you'll be networking with them and planning RPs.
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Postby The OShovah Enclaves » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:36 am

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The OShovah Enclaves wrote:Hi...I suppose. Is this a good place to ask about Future Tech in general? I'm not a newbie when it comes to roleplay, but I was a bit overwhelmed by the mass of text I saw in that help thread I found this through.


Is this the help thread you're referring to?

What questions do you have? :-)



That is indeed the help thread I was referring to. *sweat bead*

But, yeah, I wanted to ask where is the best place to plop myself down in? I've been browsing and I see a lot of mentions of "Milky Way Galaxy" and "NSverse". Are the two synonymous?

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Postby The United Dominion » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:52 am

The OShovah Enclaves wrote:That is indeed the help thread I was referring to. *sweat bead*

But, yeah, I wanted to ask where is the best place to plop myself down in? I've been browsing and I see a lot of mentions of "Milky Way Galaxy" and "NSverse". Are the two synonymous?


Probably a majority if players play in the Milky Way and don't do very much on an intergalactic level (some closed RP groups do), but are generally willing to play with a variety of people without consistent tech bases or history - this could be considered NSverse, whereas a closed RP group (CRG) generally has its own rules and internal consistency that don't necessarily suit the wider FT community. That's why they're closed.

If you want to be involved in the wider FT community, then you can basically go wherever you want, though I definitely recommend staying within the Milky Way so as to not limit the number of players who can RP with you. There are often considered to be "themes" to each quadrant (like as in Star Trek), but you by no means have to abide by them and they do change based on how the players based on them present themselves. Some players like playing to the theme, other don't. For example, I'm in Gamma, which is often seen as a "wild west" that is struggling to come back from a history with space-borne eldritch monstrosities. I don't like that, myself, so I play an old, stable state that takes exception to the idea that Gamma is uncivilized.

Definitely check out the FT Advice thread that Mac linked, though. There's a lot of good stuff there and a lot of people who are there to help.
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Postby The OShovah Enclaves » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:55 am

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Probably a majority if players play in the Milky Way and don't do very much on an intergalactic level (some closed RP groups do), but are generally willing to play with a variety of people without consistent tech bases or history - this could be considered NSverse, whereas a closed RP group (CRG) generally has its own rules and internal consistency that don't necessarily suit the wider FT community. That's why they're closed.

If you want to be involved in the wider FT community, then you can basically go wherever you want, though I definitely recommend staying within the Milky Way so as to not limit the number of players who can RP with you. There are often considered to be "themes" to each quadrant (like as in Star Trek), but you by no means have to abide by them and they do change based on how the players based on them present themselves. Some players like playing to the theme, other don't. For example, I'm in Gamma, which is often seen as a "wild west" that is struggling to come back from a history with space-borne eldritch monstrosities. I don't like that, myself, so I play an old, stable state that takes exception to the idea that Gamma is uncivilized.

Definitely check out the FT Advice thread that Mac linked, though. There's a lot of good stuff there and a lot of people who are there to help.


OK, cool. That helps a lot. Thank you, United Dominion. I'll shop around some more I think and figure out where to put myself. (Tries to not worry about the mention of space-borne eldritch monstrosities)

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Postby Ghant » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:37 pm

The Macabees wrote:Breaking into an RP as a new player is tough. You don't have much of a network yet, etc.

What I recommend is to find and join a RP region that you can identify with. That's the easiest way of joining a community. Dig in, be proactive, meet people, and pretty soon you'll be networking with them and planning RPs.


On the contrary...

I am of the opinion that the best thing a new / young roleplayer can do is remain regionless while cutting their teeth on open roleplays. Learn how to write, learn how to engage, learn how to worldbuild. In the process of doing so, you will learn your strengths and weaknesses, and grow in your abilities. It will also be during that process of growth that you will naturally gravitate towards communities that match the sort of roleplaying experience you wish to have. That's what I wish I would have done, instead of committing my time and creative energies to one region or the other when they weren't the best fit for me, which I didn't realize until after the fact.
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Postby Aquitayne » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:50 pm

Ghant wrote:
The Macabees wrote:Breaking into an RP as a new player is tough. You don't have much of a network yet, etc.

What I recommend is to find and join a RP region that you can identify with. That's the easiest way of joining a community. Dig in, be proactive, meet people, and pretty soon you'll be networking with them and planning RPs.


On the contrary...

I am of the opinion that the best thing a new / young roleplayer can do is remain regionless while cutting their teeth on open roleplays. Learn how to write, learn how to engage, learn how to worldbuild. In the process of doing so, you will learn your strengths and weaknesses, and grow in your abilities. It will also be during that process of growth that you will naturally gravitate towards communities that match the sort of roleplaying experience you wish to have. That's what I wish I would have done, instead of committing my time and creative energies to one region or the other when they weren't the best fit for me, which I didn't realize until after the fact.


I think anecdotal experiences should be left to ones own experiences.

Ultimately, Enclaves, the best way to start getting involved is to start networking with people - as Macabees said - and begin writing and getting a feel for your own style. The advice Ghant gave is true and on-point, no doubt about it, but likewise you need to find a group of people you can write with and enjoy writing with. It may be the third, fifth, or fiftieth group, but you'll find it in due time and come into your own in the process. My suggestion to you is that you come up with an idea, visit the RP Think Tank thread, and additionally the FT Advice and Assistance Thread to meet new people, get on IRC and get yourself involved in the community, and become a great part of it. If you have any other questions, I have a little bit of experience in FT, and would be happy to help. Just shoot me a TG.
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Postby The Macabees » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:18 pm

Ghant wrote:It will also be during that process of growth that you will naturally gravitate towards communities that match the sort of roleplaying experience you wish to have. That's what I wish I would have done, instead of committing my time and creative energies to one region or the other when they weren't the best fit for me, which I didn't realize until after the fact.


You usually need to hold 3-4 jobs before you find one that really fits your culture. Regions are very similar.

I agree overall. It's a matter of preference. If you're happy RPing on your own, developing your world ,etc, then you can of course do that. But then I don't think that's the kind of person to ask how they can break into an RP with other players.
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Postby Ghant » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:27 pm

Aquitayne wrote:I think anecdotal experiences should be left to ones own experiences.

Ultimately, Enclaves, the best way to start getting involved is to start networking with people - as Macabees said - and begin writing and getting a feel for your own style. The advice Ghant gave is true and on-point, no doubt about it, but likewise you need to find a group of people you can write with and enjoy writing with. It may be the third, fifth, or fiftieth group, but you'll find it in due time and come into your own in the process. My suggestion to you is that you come up with an idea, visit the RP Think Tank thread, and additionally the FT Advice and Assistance Thread to meet new people, get on IRC and get yourself involved in the community, and become a great part of it. If you have any other questions, I have a little bit of experience in FT, and would be happy to help. Just shoot me a TG.


I think anecdotal experiences can be very helpful as precautionary tales to would be roleplayers who might not know any better.

Aquitayne and the Macabees are right of course when they say that networking is the best thing you can do. Meet many people, be it in roleplay threads, on IRCs and elsewhere. Work hard at developing your craft and others "should" recognize it and as a result, roleplaying opportunities will open up to you. Don't feel the need to limit yourself to just one group either, because the NS roleplaying community is large and full of opportunities for those who dare to reach out for them. Also, feel free to send me a TG if you'd like any help or feedback, whether it is for guidance, for insight or reviews of your roleplaying material. I have experience in PT, MT, FanT, PMT and FT (though PT and MT remain my strongest suits).
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Postby New Aeyariss » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:35 pm

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Ghant wrote:It will also be during that process of growth that you will naturally gravitate towards communities that match the sort of roleplaying experience you wish to have. That's what I wish I would have done, instead of committing my time and creative energies to one region or the other when they weren't the best fit for me, which I didn't realize until after the fact.


You usually need to hold 3-4 jobs before you find one that really fits your culture. Regions are very similar.

I agree overall. It's a matter of preference. If you're happy RPing on your own, developing your world ,etc, then you can of course do that. But then I don't think that's the kind of person to ask how they can break into an RP with other players.


TBH Regions are not necessary. I noticed that there tend to be some drawbacks of being in regions also - such as what I encountered in some, behaviors as elitism, disdain for outsiders, perception of current group as "best possible writers in history", lack of activity of one person bringing the rest down, etc.

There was also much good in regions too, but I think that quality roleplays went too much off the II into RPing regions, which in return sucked good RPers from II, leaving it mostly to not best ones...
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Postby Finium » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:48 pm

The Imperial Regions of Commerce wrote:I would like to find active, nation states related Role plays, but when I try to join, they say he out or to late. Where do I find good rps that will accept me and is active."


Honestly, all you have to do it wait and check consistently. It only takes few minutes and you'll eventually find one you want. That said, many RPs end in inactivity, so that's just something you'll have to become accustomed to. I was, much like you, completely lost on II/NS and it took me a long time to develop any RPing skills. Check every day, you will find an RP, promise.

The Macabees wrote:Breaking into an RP as a new player is tough. You don't have much of a network yet, etc.

What I recommend is to find and join a RP region that you can identify with. That's the easiest way of joining a community. Dig in, be proactive, meet people, and pretty soon you'll be networking with them and planning RPs.


This sentiment is common, but not truly as universal as we would all like to think. I have been in dozen regions of various activity levels and they had their charm. But what I learned in my first regions was regional politics, not RPing. I learned RPing from going on II and trying stupid shit until I started to accumulate some level of skill. Regions lend themselves to OOC relationships, which are about as useful as manure to a player who wants to try his/her hand at RPing. The best and only way to learn RPing is by trial and failure.
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Postby The Macabees » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:43 pm

^ That's absolutely true. Excellent advice.
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Postby Lamoni » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:29 pm

The Macabees wrote:^ That's absolutely true. Excellent advice.


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I have a question. Why do many people still do tag posts, despite them being against the rules? Just wondering.

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Postby Kustgebied » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:23 am

Adevia-Ardvilla wrote:I have a question. Why do many people still do tag posts, despite them being against the rules? Just wondering.

because bookmarks are so damn far out of the way
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Postby Aquitayne » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:01 am

Kustgebied wrote:
Adevia-Ardvilla wrote:I have a question. Why do many people still do tag posts, despite them being against the rules? Just wondering.

because bookmarks are so damn far out of the way


Pretty much this, or, the player wasn't around when they announced tagging to be against the site rules. Likewise, its not something Moderation enforces a whole heck of a lot, so no one sees that it's against the rules much, either.
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That, and the removal of the Subscribe button a few months ago led a lot of people to resort to using, and recommending, View your posts. You can't view threads that way unless you've posted in them; therefore, tag posts.
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Maltropia wrote:That, and the removal of the Subscribe button a few months ago led a lot of people to resort to using, and recommending, View your posts. You can't view threads that way unless you've posted in them; therefore, tag posts.

That shouldn't be the case. The mods should remove tag posts.

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Postby Aquitayne » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:25 am

Adevia-Ardvilla wrote:
Maltropia wrote:That, and the removal of the Subscribe button a few months ago led a lot of people to resort to using, and recommending, View your posts. You can't view threads that way unless you've posted in them; therefore, tag posts.

That shouldn't be the case. The mods should remove tag posts.


It's pretty unsustainable for them to do it; it'd be like them playing wack-a-mole with the entire forum. Take down two or three here, six pop up somewhere else. They can't be sitting on the site searching for tag posts 24/7.
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Adevia-Ardvilla wrote:That shouldn't be the case. The mods should remove tag posts.


It's pretty unsustainable for them to do it; it'd be like them playing wack-a-mole with the entire forum. Take down two or three here, six pop up somewhere else. They can't be sitting on the site searching for tag posts 24/7.

Then the mods should put up a reminder saying not to tag posts and to use the bookmark feature.

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Postby Ghant » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:43 am

As I understand from roleplay etiquette, it's OK to tag post in OOC threads, but not in IC threads. OOC threads usually contain links to their counterpart IC threads so finding and accessing them isn't terribly difficult.
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Postby Aquitayne » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:54 am

Ghant wrote:As I understand from roleplay etiquette, it's OK to tag post in OOC threads, but not in IC threads. OOC threads usually contain links to their counterpart IC threads so finding and accessing them isn't terribly difficult.


Yeah, that's the polite way to tag, but Adevia's right in that tagging at all is against the site rules. Unfortunately its just not enforceable.
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:58 am

Aquitayne wrote:
Ghant wrote:As I understand from roleplay etiquette, it's OK to tag post in OOC threads, but not in IC threads. OOC threads usually contain links to their counterpart IC threads so finding and accessing them isn't terribly difficult.


Yeah, that's the polite way to tag, but Adevia's right in that tagging at all is against the site rules. Unfortunately its just not enforceable.


Indeed.

Frankly, I could be considered guilty in many ways- I don't tag, but standard protocol with many folks I know is to put a little blurb in the thread- indicating interest, asking a question, pitching an idea- which then tags that thread for an egosearch. Contribution, not pure tagging, but still a bit dubious.
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I'm asking on behalf of a fellow Rossferry member, do robots such as these replacing the common soldier count as MT?
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Neolvex wrote:I'm asking on behalf of a fellow Rossferry member, do robots such as these replacing the common soldier count as MT?

Not really. The tech to creat such robots exists but it is still many years off. They are expsinve and lack the ability to make the best decisions in combat. Speaking from someone who has seen military combat and training first hand the robots are not at the level where they would replace soldiers. If your in say maybe 2020ish you might be able to see a few in special and isoslated events but they would not be wide spread. This is my opinion and experiences
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Neolvex wrote:I'm asking on behalf of a fellow Rossferry member, do robots such as these replacing the common soldier count as MT?

Not really. The tech to creat such robots exists but it is still many years off. They are expsinve and lack the ability to make the best decisions in combat. Speaking from someone who has seen military combat and training first hand the robots are not at the level where they would replace soldiers. If your in say maybe 2020ish you might be able to see a few in special and isoslated events but they would not be wide spread. This is my opinion and experiences

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