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Postby Russian people of america » Sun Jan 05, 2014 1:06 am

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Russian people of america wrote:i understand what godmodding is but could someone tell me what flaming and trolling is :)


From the One-Stop Rules Shop:

"Flame: Expressing anger at someone in uncouth ways with OOC (out-of-character) comments (i.e. swearing, being obnoxious, threatening etc). It does to watch what you post IC (in-character) as well unless the other posters know you're not serious. You do not need to curse to be a flamer. Erudite slams while maintaining a veneer of politeness can also be considered flaming. Flaming in the forums should be reported in the Moderation forum, in the game itself, through Getting Help Page."

Using a Flame is called "Flaming"/"flaming".

"Trolling: Posts that are made with the aim of angering people. (like 'ALL JEWS ARE [insert vile comment here]' for example). While Trolls often make these posts strictly in an attempt to provoke negative comment, it is still trolling even if you actually hold those beliefs. Intent is difficult to prove over the internet, so mods will work under their best assumptions.

Note that posts of opinions you disagree with does not automatically equate with trolling. Disagreements are expected, as long as they are done in a civil manner. Max Barry has made it clear that he welcomes all opinions in civil debate, even those that are highly unpopular or minority-held. Make your case without the invective, if you want to avoid banishment as a Troll.

Trolling is also is used to refer to making obviously silly topics that people nonetheless will reply to, despite all common sense. Don't feed the trolls."

I hope that helps :)



thanks that helps a lot :D
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Postby Gaelach riocht coroin » Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:42 am

I am not sure if it belongs here but that tutorial about creating an army talks about GDP...How do I get to know what my GDP is?
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Postby Personal Freedom » Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:44 am

Gaelach riocht coroin wrote:I am not sure if it belongs here but that tutorial about creating an army talks about GDP...How do I get to know what my GDP is?

There are many nation trackers on the internet.
http://www.broomdces.com/nseconomy/
http://www.nstracker.net/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDQQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.conquestofabsolution.com%2F&ei=XprJUp3XO6SvsQTX7YGYDQ&usg=AFQjCNHBhN-9gnVtLnzVb98mRPgNVgqQjQ&sig2=2P_eBFiSKy0KW0dzXdaKcw

Pick one.
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Postby Gaelach riocht coroin » Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:47 am

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Gaelach riocht coroin wrote:I am not sure if it belongs here but that tutorial about creating an army talks about GDP...How do I get to know what my GDP is?

There are many nation trackers on the internet. Give me a moment.


Thank you, waiting
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Postby Gaelach riocht coroin » Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:54 am

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Gaelach riocht coroin wrote:I am not sure if it belongs here but that tutorial about creating an army talks about GDP...How do I get to know what my GDP is?

There are many nation trackers on the internet.
http://www.broomdces.com/nseconomy/
http://www.nstracker.net/
[url]nseconomy.thirdgeek.com[/url]
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDQQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftracker.conquestofabsolution.com%2F&ei=XprJUp3XO6SvsQTX7YGYDQ&usg=AFQjCNHBhN-9gnVtLnzVb98mRPgNVgqQjQ&sig2=2P_eBFiSKy0KW0dzXdaKcw

Pick one.


Thank you very much, sir!
It's very helpful....now, I finally know I have to wait.
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Postby Arkolon » Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:00 am

Gaelach riocht coroin wrote:


Thank you very much, sir!
It's very helpful....now, I finally know I have to wait.

Give me your nations population and Economic, Political and Civil Rights ratings and I'll give you a GDP based on NSEconomy calculations that more accurately applies for your country of a certain, stable population.
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Postby Yalos » Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:37 pm

Gaelach riocht coroin wrote:I am not sure if it belongs here but that tutorial about creating an army talks about GDP...How do I get to know what my GDP is?


I'm going to just interject real quick.

Nation trackers are fine and dandy, but overall, tend to detract from the whole RP experience. Its one thing to use them to get a rough idea about your nation's abilities and such, but you should make sure that you don't obsess over stats. Role playing should be free form and creative-not defined by an NS tracker. I've seen so many rps ruined by people screaming their heads off over trackers, that it stopped being funny by the 42nd time.

Make sure that when you RP, that you remember that you can't win nationstates, and nobody likes a power gamer, so don't go out there with the intent to win. Remember that RP is a collaborative effort, not a competition.

I'm no mentor, but take it from me-developing your own rp stats based off of common sense and economic analysis is much more rewarding in the long run, because Nationstates tends to inflate everything where half the nations on the board would be undisputed super powers in today's terms. If you need or want help with such matters, you can always ask me, or better yet, one of the mentors.
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Postby Jenrak » Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:49 pm

Yalos has it correctly. Just look at everyone around you and modify accordingly. The most important rule is not to be a dick.

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Postby Gaelach riocht coroin » Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:06 pm

Thank you all for your answers...I have one more question. My Government Expenditure graph doesn't doesn't show any "army"...
Does it mean my state has none? Can it change?
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Postby Kylarnatia » Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:56 pm

Gaelach riocht coroin wrote:Thank you all for your answers...I have one more question. My Government Expenditure graph doesn't doesn't show any "army"...
Does it mean my state has none? Can it change?


Theoretically, no, you have no army. Although, you're not at all required to follow the statistics that the game/calculator gives you. It's just easier to do so. What I'd suggest is either:

a) Taking your Gross Domestic Product from a calculator (for instance, NSEconomy) and then divide it up as much as you want between all the possible expenditures that you can think of (Defence, Education, Law and Order etc.)

b) Or, simply wait for a gameside issue which allows you to increase your military spending.

Does this help? :)
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Postby Gaelach riocht coroin » Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:05 pm

Kylarnatia wrote:
Gaelach riocht coroin wrote:Thank you all for your answers...I have one more question. My Government Expenditure graph doesn't doesn't show any "army"...
Does it mean my state has none? Can it change?


Theoretically, no, you have no army. Although, you're not at all required to follow the statistics that the game/calculator gives you. It's just easier to do so. What I'd suggest is either:

a) Taking your Gross Domestic Product from a calculator (for instance, NSEconomy) and then divide it up as much as you want between all the possible expenditures that you can think of (Defence, Education, Law and Order etc.)

b) Or, simply wait for a gameside issue which allows you to increase your military spending.

Does this help? :)


Yes, it's exactly what I wanted to know. Thank you!

I guess I'll just wait for the game to throw an issue at my table...Think it is quite possible, given the fact mine is still a baby state.
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Postby Kylarnatia » Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:11 pm

Gaelach riocht coroin wrote:-snip-


Issues come around quite regularly (The maximum is two a day, which you can choose on your Settings page), and eventually something will pop up regarding the military. All it requires is a little bit of patience. :P

If you have anymore roleplay related questions, feel free to either ask here or shoot either myself or another Mentor a telegram. Until then, happy roleplaying! :)
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Postby Gaelach riocht coroin » Mon Jan 06, 2014 2:13 pm

Kylarnatia wrote:
Gaelach riocht coroin wrote:-snip-


Issues come around quite regularly (The maximum is two a day, which you can choose on your Settings page), and eventually something will pop up regarding the military. All it requires is a little bit of patience. :P

If you have anymore roleplay related questions, feel free to either ask here or shoot either myself or another Mentor a telegram. Until then, happy roleplaying! :)


Thank you for your kindness and willingness, sir/madam.
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Postby Syike » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:06 pm

Would the 1970s be considered high PT, lower MT, or neither?

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Postby Santheres » Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:33 pm

Syike wrote:Would the 1970s be considered high PT, lower MT, or neither?


It's PT. A very close-to-modern PT, but PT nonetheless.

MT doesn't have "levels" of it, modern is modern.
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Postby Vorkova » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:40 am

Would a liberal communist democracy be a good idea for a nation? I wanted to create a communist nation, but I didn't want to portray it as an oppressive backwards dictatorship.

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Postby Delmonte » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:42 am

Vorkova wrote:Would a liberal communist democracy be a good idea for a nation? I wanted to create a communist nation, but I didn't want to portray it as an oppressive backwards dictatorship.

It's certainly feasible, but be prepared for people to react in an uninterested manner. Let's just say that you're far from the first person on NS to say, "I want my nation to be Communist, but I like Communism so everything won't be horrible!" Try and give it your own twist so you don't blend in with the background.
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[color=#FF0000][b]Mallorea and Riva should [url=http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=303090]resign[/url][/b][/color]

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Postby Vorkova » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:47 am

Delmonte wrote:
Vorkova wrote:Would a liberal communist democracy be a good idea for a nation? I wanted to create a communist nation, but I didn't want to portray it as an oppressive backwards dictatorship.

It's certainly feasible, but be prepared for people to react in an uninterested manner. Let's just say that you're far from the first person on NS to say, "I want my nation to be Communist, but I like Communism so everything won't be horrible!" Try and give it your own twist so you don't blend in with the background.

Well, it's not exactly communist (I don't believe communism can work at all). I was thinking of it more in the terms of a radical social democracy. Basically, hammers and sickles, a state run economy (Although a limited free market does exist) and socialism, but also democracy, liberalism and free speech.

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Postby Delmonte » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:59 am

Vorkova wrote:
Delmonte wrote:It's certainly feasible, but be prepared for people to react in an uninterested manner. Let's just say that you're far from the first person on NS to say, "I want my nation to be Communist, but I like Communism so everything won't be horrible!" Try and give it your own twist so you don't blend in with the background.

Well, it's not exactly communist (I don't believe communism can work at all). I was thinking of it more in the terms of a radical social democracy. Basically, hammers and sickles, a state run economy (Although a limited free market does exist) and socialism, but also democracy, liberalism and free speech.

That's pretty standard in NS, honestly. Do what you wanna do, but you'll have kind of a tough time standing out from the crowd.
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The Batorys wrote:The Delmontese like money, yeah, but they also like to throw down.

<Delmonte> I don't mean literally kill their family. I mean kill their metaphorical family.
<Delmonte> Metaphorically kill their metaphorical family.
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[color=#FF0000][b]Mallorea and Riva should [url=http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=303090]resign[/url][/b][/color]

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Postby Yalos » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:14 am

Vorkova wrote:Would a liberal communist democracy be a good idea for a nation? I wanted to create a communist nation, but I didn't want to portray it as an oppressive backwards dictatorship.

Why not? As long as you don't suspend reasonable belief, nobody who mattees is going to challenge you on it. And many nations irl are decent semi examples, I mean, look at thr French government. It takes almost 50%, and provides benefits for its people, but few would deign it as totalitarian. Socialism is plausible irl.
Do remember, however, that you're going to be living with the dreaming about this nation for months, if not years. You will have to explore the mindset of its people and tear it apart and disecr it like a pomegranate. World building is a big part of RPing, and you want to make sure that this is truly the kind of nation that you want and will be willing to devote time to.

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Postby Personal Freedom » Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:23 am

Delmonte wrote:
Vorkova wrote:Well, it's not exactly communist (I don't believe communism can work at all). I was thinking of it more in the terms of a radical social democracy. Basically, hammers and sickles, a state run economy (Although a limited free market does exist) and socialism, but also democracy, liberalism and free speech.

That's pretty standard in NS, honestly. Do what you wanna do, but you'll have kind of a tough time standing out from the crowd.

Standing out from the crowd is more dependent on forum and regional activity than your government type.
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Postby Delmonte » Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:04 am

Personal Freedom wrote:
Delmonte wrote:That's pretty standard in NS, honestly. Do what you wanna do, but you'll have kind of a tough time standing out from the crowd.

Standing out from the crowd is more dependent on forum and regional activity than your government type.

As far as the player is concerned, yes, those are all OOC ways to stand out from the crowd, but ICly that's neither here nor there.
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[15:35] <Tag> I can only presume it is treasure.
The Batorys wrote:The Delmontese like money, yeah, but they also like to throw down.

<Delmonte> I don't mean literally kill their family. I mean kill their metaphorical family.
<Delmonte> Metaphorically kill their metaphorical family.
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 [b][color=#0000FF][background=red]United in Opposition to [url=http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?t=303025]Liberate Haven[/url][/background][/color][/b]
[color=#FF0000][b]Mallorea and Riva should [url=http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=303090]resign[/url][/b][/color]

The man from Delmonte says yes.

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Postby Al Hasakah » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:28 pm

I'm involved with an RP at the moment (viewtopic.php?f=4&t=277323), and although I am posting consistently, I've not really got any ideas. I can fill a short post, but what I'm really stuck on is something to happen at the Embassy and also a side story or two, possibly with Al Hasak citizens involved.

In short - if anybody has ever had any ideas for an Embassy-related RP and would like to give them to me, please do.
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Postby Zomania » Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:01 pm

I have a question about population and national power. I've seen a few RP's here where people have nations with nine or ten digit populations, that intervene in a conflict with a million troops. Is this sort of thing normal around here? I'm trying to RP a vaguely Yugoslavian/Bulgarian eastern european communist dictatorship, so I lack either the population or the military power to actually remain relevant in many such conflicts.

Do I need to make my nation more powerful or not?
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Postby Aquitayne » Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:23 pm

Zomania wrote:I have a question about population and national power. I've seen a few RP's here where people have nations with nine or ten digit populations, that intervene in a conflict with a million troops. Is this sort of thing normal around here? I'm trying to RP a vaguely Yugoslavian/Bulgarian eastern european communist dictatorship, so I lack either the population or the military power to actually remain relevant in many such conflicts.

Do I need to make my nation more powerful or not?


You really don't.

Ultimately, the size of a player's nation is up to them to decide. However, a smaller nation can actively - and effectively - take on much larger forces for a lot of reasons; mostly, being that nations with billion-citizen stats are going to be dirt poor (think China, but larger), and their military is going to be extremely under equipped. Whereas, a smaller nation will have better (depending on history) living conditions, and a technologically superior military force.

I would direct you further to these threads, as they will be of great help to you: viewtopic.php?p=9160667#p9160667
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