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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:51 pm

The Soviet Russian Empire wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:Your GDP is way to big if you're RPing as Russia.


I am RPing as more than just Russia, I own most of the northern hemisphere.

I edited a never mind, but just be aware that many people will avoid RPing with you as you attempt to IC own "most of the world." A lot of people attempt to RP as a slightly modified version of their respective nation (Ex: USA owning Canada), if that at all. You backed yourself into a corner by naming yourself a Russian, as people that are in the high tier of RPing tend to make their own world, not earth. They try not to force people unto an Earth map, for the sake of RP canon.
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Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:53 pm

The Soviet Russian Empire wrote:??? how? Please tell me how, I need explanations.

Millions of men trained in one thing is a massive waste of money, post it here if you want a more in-depth explanation.
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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The Soviet Russian Empire
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Postby The Soviet Russian Empire » Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:56 pm

In The Red War, my RP, I am starting as a bigger Russia, as a First attempt at a RP to explain my nation.

FYI the reason someone else started the thread was because I gave them permission in the OOC thread.

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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:59 pm

Last note, you're going to need to put a lot more work into your history if you want to sell the whole "I'm unstoppable Russia" deal in an RP. Seeing as only a realistic explanation will allow nations to except you becoming that ridiculously powerful.

Some things to consider: How did you defeat NATO, China, Canada, and the EU? Why would the soviet bloc nations rejoin a union that most fought so hard to resist? Are you playing as a socialist nation? Why would socialism take over after a collapse, when that is when these states are at their weakest?
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:00 pm

The Soviet Russian Empire wrote:In The Red War, my RP, I am starting as a bigger Russia, as a First attempt at a RP to explain my nation.

FYI the reason someone else started the thread was because I gave them permission in the OOC thread.

How did Russia survive the collapse?
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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The Soviet Russian Empire
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Postby The Soviet Russian Empire » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:01 pm

Oaledonia wrote:Last note, you're going to need to put a lot more work into your history if you want to sell the whole "I'm unstoppable Russia" deal in an RP. Seeing as only a realistic explanation will allow nations to except you becoming that ridiculously powerful.

Some things to consider: How did you defeat NATO, China, Canada, and the EU? Why would the soviet bloc nations rejoin a union that most fought so hard to resist? Are you playing as a socialist nation? Why would socialism take over after a collapse, when that is when these states are at their weakest?


Severe economic collapse. I do know I need to fix my history, I am still working on that part.

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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:05 pm

The Soviet Russian Empire wrote:Severe economic collapse. I do know I need to fix my history, I am still working on that part.

How did Russia survive?
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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The Soviet Russian Empire
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Postby The Soviet Russian Empire » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:06 pm

The communist ways allowed it to stay alive. Also Russia was already in the hole economically.

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Delmonte
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Postby Delmonte » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:08 pm

The Soviet Russian Empire wrote:The communist ways allowed it to stay alive. Also Russia was already in the hole economically.

Yes... Communism made Russia so much better during those dark days. Fact.
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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:09 pm

The Soviet Russian Empire wrote:The communist ways allowed it to stay alive. Also Russia was already in the hole economically.

No, I'm sorry that it doesn't work that way.

You need to first describe why Russia would ever go back to a failed system, why communism would work (Pro tip: It never will), and how it passed America economically seeing as that would be the only way Russia would survive.
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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Postby Delmonte » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:10 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
The Soviet Russian Empire wrote:The communist ways allowed it to stay alive. Also Russia was already in the hole economically.

No, I'm sorry that it doesn't work that way.

You need to first describe why Russia would ever go back to a failed system, why communism would work (Pro tip: It never will), and how it passed America economically seeing as that would be the only way Russia would survive.

He can write his own story. If he says it's true, it is.
[15:35] <Tag> I have a big, heavy sealed box that I have no idea what is in side of it.
[15:35] <Tag> I can only presume it is treasure.
The Batorys wrote:The Delmontese like money, yeah, but they also like to throw down.

<Delmonte> I don't mean literally kill their family. I mean kill their metaphorical family.
<Delmonte> Metaphorically kill their metaphorical family.
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[color=#FF0000][b]Mallorea and Riva should [url=http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=303090]resign[/url][/b][/color]

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Oaledonia
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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:26 pm

Delmonte wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:No, I'm sorry that it doesn't work that way.

You need to first describe why Russia would ever go back to a failed system, why communism would work (Pro tip: It never will), and how it passed America economically seeing as that would be the only way Russia would survive.

He can write his own story. If he says it's true, it is.

I know he can, I was only presenting some "kinks in the factbook's armor" so-to-say, so he can work them in and present an infallible (as much as possible for anyone) piece of national information so no one calls him out on it later.

And again, it's his story. If he chooses to ignore what I've said, so be it.
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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Postby SquareDisc City » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:29 pm

Geography: Do you really need all that?

Economy: You've almost completely forgotten services. Banking, retail, entertainment, stuff like that. You're far from alone in doing this but I suggest a revision. Take a look at real-world economies to use as a model.

History: Obviously wants a major expansion. The big plot hole to me is what the heck happened to everyone? You're claiming 500 million people, yet you encompass China and India which each have more than double that in 2012, along with the US and the EU and lots of other places.

Military: Numbers want toning down. Aircraft speeds put you firmly in PMT, which matches up with your dates but bear in mind it means your nation isn't MT and you shouldn't join MT threads.
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The Soviet Russian Empire
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Postby The Soviet Russian Empire » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:33 pm

I can always modify my military if I get into a MT thread.

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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:34 pm

The Soviet Russian Empire wrote:I can always modify my military if I get into a MT thread.

Then do that to your factbook if you are attempting to play a mostly MT nation.
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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Postby The Soviet Russian Empire » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:37 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
The Soviet Russian Empire wrote:I can always modify my military if I get into a MT thread.

Then do that to your factbook if you are attempting to play a mostly MT nation.



All of my stuff is either MT or in concept, or for one thing completely made up.

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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:39 pm

The Soviet Russian Empire wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:Then do that to your factbook if you are attempting to play a mostly MT nation.



All of my stuff is either MT or in concept, or for one thing completely made up.


Then you are PMT.
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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Postby The Soviet Russian Empire » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:40 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
The Soviet Russian Empire wrote:

All of my stuff is either MT or in concept, or for one thing completely made up.


Then you are PMT.


The only thing made up was a spaceship that I thought looked good. Everything else was MT or in concept/available within the next 10 years.

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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:54 pm

The Russian Rail Tank needs to go, if you're MT.
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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Postby Questers » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:56 pm

Just try and think of an original and interesting national concept, not "Russia takes over the world!!!!!!"
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Tiami
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Postby Tiami » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:05 pm


History:
From what I have read, there is not much. Try to elaborate more on your history, let the reader know what your nation is and it's historical importance. Try to explain the era of founding, your leaders, and important facts that you believe should be known. Let thoughts flow through your head. By that, whatever you think of, write it down. If you do not like it, then delete it later. Overall, give a few paragraphs of history for us to read. For my factbook, I've listed many events and other facts in my nation's history. As of current, I'm completely overhauling it into a longer, more descriptive piece of writing.

Military:
As for military, I would suggest you tone down your cruisers from 500, to somewhere around 50, and your destroyers should be toned down by 900, to 100 at least, in my opinion. As for aircraft, no helicopter can go mach 1, so your Russian War Helicopter speed need to be lowered to at least 300mph. As a Russian Guided Missile Destroyer, I can't see how you have 2,000 of them, as you cannot afford such easily. Tone it down by 18-1900. Overall, tone your total amount of ships down by 75-80%, as your navy is not realistic or efficient. Hell, my navy is my largest branch of my military, yet my navy wouldn't be as large as your own.

Government:
As with history, there is not much here. Try to elaborate more on your government. Tell us what type of government you have, how it is structured, and what it takes to function as your government. Let the reader know of your Heads-of-States, let the reader know the branches, sub-branches of your government. If you have departments(Department of transportation example), let us know what they are.

Economy:
I cannot say much, but you should elaborate on the services like banking, retail, etc. Try to tell us how your country makes it's money, about how we want to view your economy. Is your economy a command, free-mark, capitalist, or traditional economy. Let us know. Give us some numbers, just give us more. As I said, I cannot say much because I have nothing in my economy section of my factbook due to my revamping of it. I believe Maltropia could give more information on this since he specializes in GT&E.


Overall, your factbook is the naked skeleton. Clothe it. By that, I mean, give us more to read, let us know your country more. I would suggest, though, that you go original and find your own national concept. It's not my decision, but I wouldn't recommend going all "MOTHER RUSSISA IS BEST" on us. There's too many nations like that on NS.


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The Soviet Russian Empire
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Postby The Soviet Russian Empire » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:08 pm

Ok, I shall work on that.

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Postby Oaledonia » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:24 pm

Questers wrote:Just try and think of an original and interesting national concept, not "Russia takes over the world!!!!!!"

Seychelles takes over? :U
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Blackjack-and-Hookers wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'll go make my own genocidal galactic empire! with blackjack and hookers

You bet your ass you will!
Divair wrote:NSG summer doesn't end anymore. Climate change.
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Postby Stahn » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:40 pm

Although I am not the best roleplayer myself I would like to add a few words of advice.

Don’t try to make your military super awesome. Personally I think that is a very boring way to go.

If you don’t know every technical aspect that comes with your military equipment just look at what exists in the real world and don’t go above the specs of the best of the comparable units around.

It will help you avoid making mistakes like having a mach 1 helicopter.

From what I understand, helicopters have a rather low max speed. Check this out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter#Limitations

A fixed wing turboprop aircraft has the potential of going much faster but it will never reach mach 1 either.

But giving your nation some weaknesses gives it much more flavour so to speak. Just trying to present your armies as the strongest, best trained and best equiped in the world is something many people are out to.
Often it turns out that actual technical knowlage is the only limitation to the power of their armed forces.

As a alternative USSR have low cost, low tech, effective equipment. The alternative USA that would mirror your nation would have extremely high tech but high cost and not always that combat effective equipment themselves.

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Postby The Soviet Russian Empire » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:47 pm

I had the picture and some specs, but I could not find the speed so I guessed.

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