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Postby Brettenwald » Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:51 pm

Neotartessos wrote:I want to make a thread where I can establish trade connection with other nations - listing the kinds of goods my nation produces in export quantities, and the things my nation needs to import from abroad. Then other nations could say what goods they would import from my nation and what goods they would export to my nation. The idea would be to establish some trading partners for future RP.

My question is, where would this be best posted? Global Economics and Trade? Factbooks and National Information?

GE&T is probably your best bet.
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Postby Crabaiaia » Mon Feb 15, 2021 4:03 pm

Neotartessos wrote:I want to make a thread where I can establish trade connection with other nations - listing the kinds of goods my nation produces in export quantities, and the things my nation needs to import from abroad. Then other nations could say what goods they would import from my nation and what goods they would export to my nation. The idea would be to establish some trading partners for future RP.

My question is, where would this be best posted? Global Economics and Trade? Factbooks and National Information?

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Postby Holy Roman Empires2 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:13 pm

Lately my regions roleplays hevent been getting as much traction as before, its a downward trend in acticity and quality. Do you have any advise? I loved our roleplay and still do
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Postby Kylarnatia » Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:45 am

Holy Roman Empires2 wrote:Lately my regions roleplays hevent been getting as much traction as before, its a downward trend in acticity and quality. Do you have any advise? I loved our roleplay and still do


From what I've been able to gleam from a very quick glance of your posts and your regional message board, there are two initial suggestions I could give. From what I can tell, it seems as though there isn't much discussion before a roleplay begins; it just kind of starts and then folks seem to be winging it from there. Setting out ideas for a roleplay between players first, agreeing on the salient points and the overall direction of the story before beginning, helps to set the tone and get people invested in what is going on. If they have some idea of what is about to happen and have had the chance to come up with the reasons as to why it would matter to them and their characters, they're more likely to get invested.

This is why I would also recommend using the forums over using the regional message board in order to conduct roleplays, especially larger ones. While roleplaying on the regional message board is certainly not impossible, it becomes difficult to keep track of if you can't separate it out from other miscellaneous forms of chatter. With the roleplay forums, you can create a dedicated Out-of-Character thread for conversations around the plot of the roleplay, potential ideas for outcomes, and engage with the interested participants in conversations around what is happening, while having the separate In-Character thread to contain the story itself. Referring between the two, it will then become easier for participants to keep track of what is going on and how they can get involved and help further the story. You can also utilise your regional Discord to help host some of the Out-of-Character discussion, but keeping it forum-side is helpful to generate interest in your region and again keep things easily traceable for someone who needs to refer back to earlier parts of the conversation.
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Postby Holy Roman Empires2 » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:24 pm

Thank you
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Postby Miku the Based » Wed Feb 17, 2021 2:31 am

I need help with thinking up a side plot for my Festival RP. I was thinking of a love story or a mother losing a child in the crowd to some michivious children. Need some drama and conflict without being physical to make it interesting. Ideas?
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Postby Kylarnatia » Wed Feb 17, 2021 5:34 am

Miku the Based wrote:I need help with thinking up a side plot for my Festival RP. I was thinking of a love story or a mother losing a child in the crowd to some michivious children. Need some drama and conflict without being physical to make it interesting. Ideas?
The IC RP is not gonna occur until the day before so I have ample time to prepare.


Having found the thread, I think it might be useful first to give more of an indication as to what the main plot point of the story is supposed to be, in order to drum up interest: give us some background on what this celebration is about, its history, and what (if anything) is significant about this years celebration. Who are the principle characters of the story that players will be interacting with? Why are foreign guests encouraged to attend? What sort of characters are you interested in having part of the roleplay? Is this a celebration just for any odd tourist, or are you looking for VIP attendees?

Once you clarify on these things and potentially gain some interested players, it'll become easier to think up a potential side-plot, one that potentially involves one or several of the other players. But if you want to have something on hand straight away, I think a lover's tryst or quarrel between some of your principle characters is a good start. Something that potential players would have reasons to maybe try and intervene in or influence one way or another.

Holy Roman Empires2 wrote:Thank you


You're welcome. :)
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Postby Saperetia » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:44 pm

I'd like to make a thread where people can suggest new political parties to my nation. I want ther to be serious and joke answers. I have looked at what some forums are about and i don't feel like this queation/thread is fitting into any of them. In which forum should i put my queation?

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Postby Kylarnatia » Fri Feb 26, 2021 5:19 pm

Saperetia wrote:I'd like to make a thread where people can suggest new political parties to my nation. I want ther to be serious and joke answers. I have looked at what some forums are about and i don't feel like this queation/thread is fitting into any of them. In which forum should i put my queation?


I'd say Factbooks & National Information is the best place for it.
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Postby Airceltria » Sat Feb 27, 2021 2:24 am

How do I make an organizational chart? I want to make one for my government structure
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=air ... id=1511565
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Postby Kylarnatia » Sat Feb 27, 2021 6:59 am

Airceltria wrote:How do I make an organizational chart? I want to make one for my government structure
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=air ... id=1511565


There really isn't a way to do it with formatting on the site. Your best bet is to make the chart using some image-editing software (You could probably do a pretty easy and straightforward one with Paint, but I imagine you could use GIMP / Photoshop etc. to make a much cleaner looking one) and then adding it to your factbook as an image.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:43 pm

Kylarnatia wrote:
Airceltria wrote:How do I make an organizational chart? I want to make one for my government structure
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=air ... id=1511565


There really isn't a way to do it with formatting on the site. Your best bet is to make the chart using some image-editing software (You could probably do a pretty easy and straightforward one with Paint, but I imagine you could use GIMP / Photoshop etc. to make a much cleaner looking one) and then adding it to your factbook as an image.


There are some free Organizational Chart apps in the Google Play Store, as well as I think a few websites that have free web apps for that. I'd have to double-check around to see what I can find, though.
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Postby Shazbotdom » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:46 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:
Kylarnatia wrote:
There really isn't a way to do it with formatting on the site. Your best bet is to make the chart using some image-editing software (You could probably do a pretty easy and straightforward one with Paint, but I imagine you could use GIMP / Photoshop etc. to make a much cleaner looking one) and then adding it to your factbook as an image.


There are some free Organizational Chart apps in the Google Play Store, as well as I think a few websites that have free web apps for that. I'd have to double-check around to see what I can find, though.


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Postby Airceltria » Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:41 pm

Shazbotdom wrote:
Shazbotdom wrote:
There are some free Organizational Chart apps in the Google Play Store, as well as I think a few websites that have free web apps for that. I'd have to double-check around to see what I can find, though.


In Addendum:
Link for Google Play list of Chart Apps.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/coll ... NO1ljI4Naw


Thanks for that mate.

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Postby Graintfjall » Sun Mar 14, 2021 4:30 am

Wanted to ask for advice about something.

Let’s say I want to RP some kind of foreign engagement. Not necessarily a full-on ‘war’, but certainly overseas military operations in which there will be loss of life and geopolitical consequences. I’m interested in this partly, if not primarily, as a way of bringing color to my forthcoming domestic elections: some parties will support such operations, some oppose them, some criticize their handling while supporting the essential cause, etc.

Is it always considered ‘puppet-wank’ to use a puppet nation to do such? So long as it’s clearly signalled, OOC? I ask because in some ways it seems easier to coordinate that way. If I want ‘a war in the Middle East’ (a phrase I understand has zero meaning in NS, but, roll with it) it’s much easier to do so against my ‘Middle Eastern’ puppet than hang around the II forum hoping that someone suitable offers an opportunity and that the roleplay doesn’t fizzle or burn out midway through me running my domestic election RP.

Alternatively if it definitively is ‘puppet-wank’, then, what’s a good way of arranging this kind of RP in a way that I can be reasonably confident both threads will keep running? I don’t want to be stuck with an election RP that’s going nowhere because the international aspect is stuck or ruined.

I’m absolutely not looking to skirt the rules, but it’s been a long-ass time since I RPed war in the II forum (the last time was on Jolt!) so I wanted to be clear about what my options were.
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Postby The Macabees » Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:54 am

Puppetwanking is the use of puppets to "stack stats." Like using puppets and game-side populations to grow the size of your army, etc.

You're proposing to use a puppet as a setting for a story, not to give you an advantage in anything, so I wouldn't categorize what you're proposing to do as puppetwanking.
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Postby Graintfjall » Sun Mar 14, 2021 8:57 am

That's pretty much in line with the feedback on the mentors channel. I think next step is to put up my proposed RP idea and then people can take a look at it and let me know how kosher it is.

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Postby Vorausen » Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:12 am

I was wondering is there any advice or recommendations when you are making a fascist based nation? I know that fascism (and other related ideologies) can be very controversial, so I do t want to get in trouble in NS mods or offend anybody.

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Postby The Macabees » Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:45 am

Vorausen wrote:I was wondering is there any advice or recommendations when you are making a fascist based nation? I know that fascism (and other related ideologies) can be very controversial, so I do t want to get in trouble in NS mods or offend anybody.


A great example of not just a fascist-based nation, but a Nazi-based nation, see United World Order. He plays his role very well, and knowing that fascism is not just controversial but often earns the widespread reaction of suppression, he owns the role of one against many. Generally speaking, if the ideology and controversial aspects of it are in-character and within the forum's PG-13 rules, you have literary freedom. This does not necessarily extend to your on-site factbooks and imagery; it's still against the rules to have Nazi flags on your factbooks, for example.

A couple of things beyond the example of UWO that stand out to me from experience:

  • Even owning the one against many role, fascist states survive on strategic alliances. Diplomatic isolation is not complete diplomatic isolation. North Korea has diplomatic ties to Russia and China, despite being a pariah. Nazi Germany had a strategic alliance with Italy and Japan that gave the rest of the world a run for its money.
  • Not in a strict sense, but in a loose sense, "All Nazis are fascist, but not all facists are Nazis." Franco's Spain is often deemed fascist, but he suppressed the ideological Falange and JONS, as well as the carlists. He was not an ideological fascist in the sense of Hitler or Mussolini. So fascism can take on many forms, and those shades of grey matter as far as to how controversial your existence is. Franco's Spain survived until the mid-70s and had an alliance with the United States, who supplied him with tanks, artillery, guns, food, and other supplies that gave his regime life.
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Postby A m e n r i a » Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:15 am

Vorausen wrote:I was wondering is there any advice or recommendations when you are making a fascist based nation? I know that fascism (and other related ideologies) can be very controversial, so I do t want to get in trouble in NS mods or offend anybody.


Are there any particular themes you're going for? Have you thought of your irl counterpart for your nation? A fascist Greece would be different from a fascist India, for example.
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Postby Vorausen » Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:27 am

A m e n r i a wrote:
Vorausen wrote:I was wondering is there any advice or recommendations when you are making a fascist based nation? I know that fascism (and other related ideologies) can be very controversial, so I do t want to get in trouble in NS mods or offend anybody.


Are there any particular themes you're going for? Have you thought of your irl counterpart for your nation? A fascist Greece would be different from a fascist India, for example.



So basically the history of Vorausen is after WW2, fascism started to die down, and many countries either banned or got rid of fascists. However Nations in Scandinavia were willing to allow Fascist to exile to the peninsula. There the nations United and formed Vorausen, made up of mostly German fascists, altough some Italian, French, and British fascists live in Vorausen.

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Postby Central Shaneville » Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:21 am

So I've been thinking about doing some non sport related RP yet IC my nation has been in isolation for decades so I don't really know how to approach this new side of RP (for me at least.) some tips would be appreciated.

Also another query, I would like to give Central Shaneville some kind of Air Force Museum (I guess it would go into Factbooks and Nation Info) is this a good idea to as I haven't seen anyone do anything like this on the forums before?
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Postby Romextly » Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:23 am

Central Shaneville wrote:So I've been thinking about doing some non sport related RP yet IC my nation has been in isolation for decades so I don't really know how to approach this new side of RP (for me at least.) some tips would be appreciated.

Also another query, I would like to give Central Shaneville some kind of Air Force Museum (I guess it would go into Factbooks and Nation Info) is this a good idea to as I haven't seen anyone do anything like this on the forums before?

Maybe you can join in to some RPS from international leaders meet?

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Postby Central Shaneville » Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:30 am

Thanks for the suggestion!
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Postby Romextly » Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:33 am

Central Shaneville wrote:Thanks for the suggestion!

You could also make one on the inauguration or marraige or something

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