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Postby Wakendom » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:50 pm

I basically have no idea what to do in a war, and how to defend your country. Can anyone help me out? I'm new, and may I add, 102% clueless.

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Postby Kylarnatia » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:02 pm

Wakendom wrote:I basically have no idea what to do in a war, and how to defend your country. Can anyone help me out? I'm new, and may I add, 102% clueless.


War and combat are all narrative. In other words, when you enter into a war with someone, you and the other participant (in an ideal scenario) cooperate and decide the narrative of the war, the outcome of each battle etc. Some people like to leave the details to each other and just cover the bases, others like to discuss every detail before going ahead. Whatever happens, you and everyone else taking part need to be happy with what's about to go down, otherwise the roleplay will be nothing but counter-productive in the end.

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Postby Xuskeuclite » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:04 pm

Best war strategy in a WW2 rp.

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Postby Rhodevus » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:40 pm

Xuskeuclite wrote:Best war strategy in a WW2 rp.


Well, there is no 'best' strategy. That is like saying what is the best movie? Everyone has their own opinions, but there is no truly 'best strategy'. What you can do, is look up some strategies done by the allies or axis during the real world war 2, to help give yourself inspiration for the RP with the same theme.
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Postby The Belgian Rijk » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:57 am

What do I do if the RP I want to start belongs in all three forum categories?
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Postby The Belgian Rijk » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:58 am

Xuskeuclite wrote:Best war strategy in a WW2 rp.

I may be slightly biased, but the creeping barrage was extremely effective during WW2. Others might have better ideas, but as far as getting troops across land to reach somewhere during war, the creeping barrage is the way to do it.

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Postby The Macabees » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:03 pm

The Belgian Rijk wrote:What do I do if the RP I want to start belongs in all three forum categories?


What's the RP about?

I'd choose wherever you're more likely to get viewership, which is International Incidents.
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Postby The Belgian Rijk » Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:23 pm

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The Belgian Rijk wrote:What do I do if the RP I want to start belongs in all three forum categories?


What's the RP about?

I'd choose wherever you're more likely to get viewership, which is International Incidents.

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Yea, I'd say International Incidents is your best bet.
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Postby Saint Fedski » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:19 pm

I'm recreating my nation as it's been idle for... too long. It's been resurrected as a monarchy. As I go through, everything has become "Royal This" or "Royal That"

For instance, my navy is the Royal Lambtonite Navy. The air force? The Royal Lambtonite Air Force. National police? Royal Lambton Constabulary. The state-owned toilet paper manufacturer? The Royal Buttwipe Factory. It's just so 'ugh.' It sounds plain, boring, anti-creative. I've re-titled the army as the "Queen's Army," but I don't particularly like that. What can I do stray away from the blase "Royal" "Country Name" "Service" template - most especially the royal term.

(I've toyed with 'imperial' I get the same feeling.) Thanks!
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Why not name them in your local language?
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Postby Saint Fedski » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:10 pm

For all intents and purposes, the local language is English. Being entirely unilingual, and barely at that half the time, I find it very difficult to grasp too many 'foreign' languages. Like establishing my own IC religion, trying to learn or create a new language is above me for the moment.
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Postby Nations United for Conquest » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:33 pm

Saint Fedski wrote:For all intents and purposes, the local language is English. Being entirely unilingual, and barely at that half the time, I find it very difficult to grasp too many 'foreign' languages. Like establishing my own IC religion, trying to learn or create a new language is above me for the moment.

Perhaps basing it off words from a similar language to that of what you would assume your nations populace would speak. I use a form of German as a selection of my nation's language
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Postby Saint Fedski » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:48 am

Thank you for the replies.

I'm not sure what you mean though, NUC. Could you elaborate or share an example?
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Postby Nations United for Conquest » Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:29 pm

Saint Fedski wrote:Thank you for the replies.

I'm not sure what you mean though, NUC. Could you elaborate or share an example?


Well if I want a person from my nation to speak in my native language I will typically use German in place of my language.

If I wanted a king for my country, I would give him the title of "Kongoi" which is my spin on the German word "König"

There's also a strategy of just combining sounds until you get one you like
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Postby Barunia » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:48 pm

Saint Fedski wrote:I'm recreating my nation as it's been idle for... too long. It's been resurrected as a monarchy. As I go through, everything has become "Royal This" or "Royal That"

For instance, my navy is the Royal Lambtonite Navy. The air force? The Royal Lambtonite Air Force. National police? Royal Lambton Constabulary. The state-owned toilet paper manufacturer? The Royal Buttwipe Factory. It's just so 'ugh.' It sounds plain, boring, anti-creative. I've re-titled the army as the "Queen's Army," but I don't particularly like that. What can I do stray away from the blase "Royal" "Country Name" "Service" template - most especially the royal term.

(I've toyed with 'imperial' I get the same feeling.) Thanks!


Why not have a look at RL national examples. For example, you could use 'Territorial Army' or 'Self Defence Force' for the army. For company names, I often use a last name as the name of the company, which is common RL practice.
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Saint Fedski wrote:I'm recreating my nation as it's been idle for... too long. It's been resurrected as a monarchy. As I go through, everything has become "Royal This" or "Royal That"

For instance, my navy is the Royal Lambtonite Navy. The air force? The Royal Lambtonite Air Force. National police? Royal Lambton Constabulary. The state-owned toilet paper manufacturer? The Royal Buttwipe Factory. It's just so 'ugh.' It sounds plain, boring, anti-creative. I've re-titled the army as the "Queen's Army," but I don't particularly like that. What can I do stray away from the blase "Royal" "Country Name" "Service" template - most especially the royal term.

(I've toyed with 'imperial' I get the same feeling.) Thanks!


Have you considered something like "His Majesty's Own Air Force?" etc.
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Postby New Communist and Socialist Unions » Sat Feb 04, 2017 1:41 am

You join an RP, someone who also joined the RP declares war on your weak state. Do you reserve the right to refuse this war or no? Just to be clear, both are not CO-OPs.
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New Communist and Socialist Unions wrote:You join an RP, someone who also joined the RP declares war on your weak state. Do you reserve the right to refuse this war or no? Just to be clear, both are not CO-OPs.


Depends on the RP. If, say, you were to join an RP thread where every player takes control of a real-world or fictional nation that exists as a concept only inside of that thread (the various 'refight WWII' threads come to mind or the similar NS World War threads) then I would say that as an explicit part of joining said thread you've taken on the responsibility for whatever might happen. But if you were to say join a thread that is about a fancy ball in someone else's nation and some random other person decided they wanted to throw down because of the color of your dress, then that would be entirely different. If you don't want to RP with them, you don't have to. There's definately some questions of implied and assumed responsibility there and some more details would be useful.

I would also note for said 'stronger' state; There's always a bigger dragon...
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Sunset wrote:
New Communist and Socialist Unions wrote:You join an RP, someone who also joined the RP declares war on your weak state. Do you reserve the right to refuse this war or no? Just to be clear, both are not CO-OPs.


Depends on the RP. If, say, you were to join an RP thread where every player takes control of a real-world or fictional nation that exists as a concept only inside of that thread (the various 'refight WWII' threads come to mind or the similar NS World War threads) then I would say that as an explicit part of joining said thread you've taken on the responsibility for whatever might happen. But if you were to say join a thread that is about a fancy ball in someone else's nation and some random other person decided they wanted to throw down because of the color of your dress, then that would be entirely different. If you don't want to RP with them, you don't have to. There's definately some questions of implied and assumed responsibility there and some more details would be useful.

I would also note for said 'stronger' state; There's always a bigger dragon...


And that would be?
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Postby Sunset » Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:53 am

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Sunset wrote:
Depends on the RP. If, say, you were to join an RP thread where every player takes control of a real-world or fictional nation that exists as a concept only inside of that thread (the various 'refight WWII' threads come to mind or the similar NS World War threads) then I would say that as an explicit part of joining said thread you've taken on the responsibility for whatever might happen. But if you were to say join a thread that is about a fancy ball in someone else's nation and some random other person decided they wanted to throw down because of the color of your dress, then that would be entirely different. If you don't want to RP with them, you don't have to. There's definately some questions of implied and assumed responsibility there and some more details would be useful.

I would also note for said 'stronger' state; There's always a bigger dragon...


And that would be?


The details I'm looking for are either a link to said thread or a more complete explanation of the premise of said thread.

As far as the bigger dragon goes, I can't answer that without the first. Though I would note that in most cases it would be fairly silly to just 'declare war' on what one perceives as a 'weaker state' without any kind of history, research, or contact between the two both in-character and out-of-character. The case where it wouldn't be? One of the two types of noted threads (various 'refight WWII' threads come to mind or the similar NS World War threads) where that is more-or-less expected by the character of the thread.
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Postby New Communist and Socialist Unions » Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:03 am

Sunset wrote:
New Communist and Socialist Unions wrote:
And that would be?


The details I'm looking for are either a link to said thread or a more complete explanation of the premise of said thread.

As far as the bigger dragon goes, I can't answer that without the first. Though I would note that in most cases it would be fairly silly to just 'declare war' on what one perceives as a 'weaker state' without any kind of history, research, or contact between the two both in-character and out-of-character. The case where it wouldn't be? One of the two types of noted threads (various 'refight WWII' threads come to mind or the similar NS World War threads) where that is more-or-less expected by the character of the thread.


Name of RP is Imperialism, 1810. I have Baja and the Californian gold rush, Mexico declares war for Baja. In OOC I decided to say at the end of an argument, "I'll give you gold then piss off.". But I suspect noooooobody wants that deal. Some say they are too far away from me to get gold, I don't trust the Japanese in the RP, the Spanish are shifty, Indians are trustworthy, and the Americans... Yeah...
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Postby Sunset » Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:21 am

New Communist and Socialist Unions wrote:
Sunset wrote:
The details I'm looking for are either a link to said thread or a more complete explanation of the premise of said thread.

As far as the bigger dragon goes, I can't answer that without the first. Though I would note that in most cases it would be fairly silly to just 'declare war' on what one perceives as a 'weaker state' without any kind of history, research, or contact between the two both in-character and out-of-character. The case where it wouldn't be? One of the two types of noted threads (various 'refight WWII' threads come to mind or the similar NS World War threads) where that is more-or-less expected by the character of the thread.


Name of RP is Imperialism, 1810. I have Baja and the Californian gold rush, Mexico declares war for Baja. In OOC I decided to say at the end of an argument, "I'll give you gold then piss off.". But I suspect noooooobody wants that deal. Some say they are too far away from me to get gold, I don't trust the Japanese in the RP, the Spanish are shifty, Indians are trustworthy, and the Americans... Yeah...


In this instance, you've willingly chose to participate in this thread with the unstated though implicit understanding that this is a RP about Imperialism and its attendant machinations. If another player wishes to declare war on 'you', though I'm not exactly sure whether the Baja/Southern California area had a distinct and recognized government at the time, then as a condition of participation in that thread it would seem to me to be incumbent that you recognize the actions of the other players. To carve out an analogy, it would be as if you were playing a game of 'Risk' yet you did not want to invade nor be invaded by another player; Why then are you playing? In this instance, it then becomes up to you to give those other powers a reason to support you or not, as per their own roleplay of their particular areas. As I am not the OP of said thread, I cannot make this declaration, but if I were to OP a similar thread, my response would be that if you are not willing to recognize the actions of the other players - for better or for worse - then you should not be participating.

As to the other participants, well, those are the breaks. It doesn't exactly follow the pattern of history but you don't have to either. History is now literally in your hands.
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Postby New Communist and Socialist Unions » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:29 am

Sunset wrote:
New Communist and Socialist Unions wrote:
Name of RP is Imperialism, 1810. I have Baja and the Californian gold rush, Mexico declares war for Baja. In OOC I decided to say at the end of an argument, "I'll give you gold then piss off.". But I suspect noooooobody wants that deal. Some say they are too far away from me to get gold, I don't trust the Japanese in the RP, the Spanish are shifty, Indians are trustworthy, and the Americans... Yeah...


In this instance, you've willingly chose to participate in this thread with the unstated though implicit understanding that this is a RP about Imperialism and its attendant machinations. If another player wishes to declare war on 'you', though I'm not exactly sure whether the Baja/Southern California area had a distinct and recognized government at the time, then as a condition of participation in that thread it would seem to me to be incumbent that you recognize the actions of the other players. To carve out an analogy, it would be as if you were playing a game of 'Risk' yet you did not want to invade nor be invaded by another player; Why then are you playing? In this instance, it then becomes up to you to give those other powers a reason to support you or not, as per their own roleplay of their particular areas. As I am not the OP of said thread, I cannot make this declaration, but if I were to OP a similar thread, my response would be that if you are not willing to recognize the actions of the other players - for better or for worse - then you should not be participating.

As to the other participants, well, those are the breaks. It doesn't exactly follow the pattern of history but you don't have to either. History is now literally in your hands.


Well in that case... Invasions to islands for government in exile then.
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