Mount Shavano wrote:Vortiaganica wrote:Vortiaganica will provide an IASEN-perspective response to question 2. To provide as little bias as possible, your response will come from a government body without links to the secret police. As such, we will attempt not to beat around the bush or try to find errors.
In the case of question 2, WASO has not to our extensive knowledge used peaceful means to try and improve the quality of life for those enslaved by IASEN states. IASEN itself holds a policy of associating only with slave states that follow IASEN's code of practice regarding slave states (OOC: Please see the OP of the IASEN thred), and IASEN is currently discussing possible measures to further enforce such practices.
Our relations with WASO are (OOC: Please note this is IC) for the most part cold, and tense. Our most recent dealings with WASO, off the top of my head, involve a debt-collection visit by Lyras, its close ally Lamoni, and a very significant cadre of completely unrelated WASO nations to Greater Tezdrian. We are not quite sure how that went down. (OOC: It might have been retconned, but from what I remember it was a fair curb-stomp)
We do recall an organization called OHTO, which was destroyed by a nation that itself had more people than the organization combined, and happened to use confidence tricks to wipe out and decapitate the organization, in WASO's own words.
At any rate, Vortiaganica, and possibly most of the veteran members of IASEN, would take coldly to any sort of 'diplomatic' lies and deceit by WASO, which is officially listed as a terrorist organization in Vortiaganica's internal records due to, among others, an Allanean arrest warrant for the Dictator and claim of jurisdiction over slaver waters.
In summary: We are not open to dealing with WASO as a nation, due to WASO. We cannot speak for IASEN as an organization which has always striven for the sovereignty of nations and the freedom to own slaves, and not the war WASO espouses so readily.
We invite your input, however, into a Vortiaganic recommendation to the Executive branch regarding IASEN humanitarian aid. Such has not yet become an issue for which we have begun voting on, but we are sure that such nations as yourself, Mount Shavano, would be interested in seeing how it pans out.
OOC: Underlined item 1: The OP of the IASEN thread only contains the following in terms of code of conduct.
IASEN Code of Rules:
1. All member nations must resign from the World Assembly
2. All member nations must defend shipping routes if threatened
3. All member nations must uphold the noble practice of slavery
4. All member nations must promote slavery in all its forms
5. All members must defend other member nations in times of trouble
(emphasis mine). This seems to suggest that all IASEN nations are required to support all slavery, regardless of humanitarian conditions and other factors. I assume there is another document you intended you point me at, but I don't know where to look for it, and were I a member interpreting the rules of IASEN I would seriously question whether it could supersede Item Four of the Code of Rules. Just my 2 cents - and if there is a guideline for treatment of slaves somewhere else, I'd appreciate a link to it.
Underlined item 2: Another item I'd appreciate being linked to.
This is spoilered, near the bottom. All IASEN member nations are required to follow these guidelines and the recent Vortiaganic proposal would take steps to both enforce these guidelines within nations required to follow them and to endorse and support the uptake of these guidelines by slave-owning nations outside IASEN.
*Slaves are not to be beaten to the point of bruising or death in circumstances where this is avoidable
*The murder of a slave is to have the same importance as that of a freedman in the eyes of the slave,
*Sexual Intercourse with slaves is not to be engaged in without the slaves consent as outlined by the sovereign nations law
*Slaves must be provided with food water and adequate housing at all times
*Slave families should not be broken up, in any circumstance where such is avoidable
*Pregnant slaves shall not preform work for the duration of their pregnancy, or arduous labor until 3 weeks after the birth,
*Crippled and Elderly slaves shall be assigned only to roles accommodating their limited abilities, in accord with the severity and timespan of their infirmity
*Slaves delivered shall meet the specifications of the slave purchased
*Slaves will be delivered upon the receipt of payment
*Slaves will not be damaged during transit in any avoidable circumstance
*If a slave is injured in transit this will be noted before the transaction is complete and the slave will be given treatment if possible, keeping in mind the severity of the injury
*Nations reserve the right to execute slaves if accosted by pirate forces in international water
The last point is for incidents where a pirate or terrorist organization attempts to capture, and possibly resell, or maybe release, slaves.
The list you linked to is as far as we know referring to types of slavery: as in debt slavery, slavery as a criminal punishment, peonage.
Once the Vortiaganic proposal has passed or been rejected, we shall seek clarification and provide such to you post-haste.
Underlined Item 2: That was, by the way, an invitation for you to provide criticism of the organization proposed at the bottom of this post. Formal voting is soon to begin.