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The war against Ucrumba

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Centropyge
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Postby Centropyge » Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:57 pm

LOW PROTOCOL ADMIRALTY MESSAGE

FROM: Sir Jackie Fischer II, First Sea Lord of Centropyge
TO: John Firth, First Lord of the Admiralty of Alexiandra; Hern Osk, Grand Admiral of the Confederate Navy
RE: Centropygan naval contribution

Greetings.

Please excuse this short, simple communication as I am currently out in the field directing the Centropygan efforts to restore New Korongo after a coup by Commander Lulham. Our initial landing has gone well, and I have thus ordered some naval assets--including naval air--to begin a trip to the dockyards to be fitted out in appropriate colours for cooperation with the Confederate Navy in its operations against Ucrumba. The Admiralty has decided to paint red and blue diagonal stripes on the sides of our vessels as well as on the tops of our gun turrets and/or decks--I myself have not seen the paint job proposals. If you have a better idea, just let the Admiralty know and they will comply, as our vessels will still take some time to reach the shipyards and have the work done.

Below are the forces we are planning to send:

Battleship Battle Group
1 battleship HMS Repulse
1 battlecruiser HMS Spitfire
3 cruisers (of different classes) HMS Eibli, Hobart, and Mauler
2 destroyers HMS Ardent and Arrow
3 frigates (of different classes) HMS Valiant, Argonaut, and Kale
1 escort carrier/amphibious assault ship HMS Halberdier

Maritime Patrol Group
1 escort carrier HMS Sea Serpent
5 frigates (of different classes) HMS F-30, F-35, F-20, F-21, F-22

plus support vessels (supply ships, fleet tugs, small boats)

Fleet Air Arm aircraft carried:

32 Harrier GR9 VTOL jets
24 Kondor combat utility helicopters
8 H-18 Sparrow helicopters.

(about forty aircraft on the two carriers, with the remaining aircraft based on the other vessels)

Royal Marine forces carried:

3,000 soldiers
12 Zweihaender main battle tanks
some APC's, light vehicles, and mobile SAM units


Please expect these vessels to be able to join your ships in a couple of weeks. We apologize that they have not been able to reach you sooner, and in order to contribute to the effort, we have contracted with the Anson Bay Company to send basic fuel and supplies to your fleet. Their armed merchantmen should arrive shortly.

Signed,

Jackie Fischer II, First Sea Lord of the SCE of Centropyge
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Postby West Reich » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:12 pm

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As months passed the Western army have been training within the jungles of Tristania, waiting for Western orders to participate in the War against the honourless nation of Ucrumba, and today that order came. 500 well trained soldiers, have been given the order to aid Tristania in any way needed. As President Anderson said: "Even though Herrebrugian-Dutch forces are also on the side of Free Tristania, we don't want to demolish our relations with Tristania, and Globexanter. Thus said, we're sorry for the words that have been published towards Herrebrugh, however we'll have to stop this Ucrumbian madness, and move along."



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Alexiandra
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Postby Alexiandra » Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:58 am

OOC: I don't think it's worth carrying on if Ucrumba's "internet troubles" *wink wink...* continue
"But, if constructing the future and settling everything for all times are not our affair, it is all the more clear what we have to accomplish at present: I am referring to ruthless criticism of all that exists, ruthless both in the sense of not being afraid of the results it arrives at and in the sense of being just as little afraid of conflict with the powers that be." - Karl Marx

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Postby Globexanter » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:08 am

Alexiandra wrote:OOC: I don't think it's worth carrying on if Ucrumba's "internet troubles" *wink wink...* continue


(OoC: Well it is very easy, if he doesn't answer soon we'll just say that his Govt. has lost interest in defending it's land and has pulled itself out, resulting in their army surrendering due to moral loss, letting us move in with no problems at all...)

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Postby Herrebrugh » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:17 am

Globexanter wrote:
Alexiandra wrote:OOC: I don't think it's worth carrying on if Ucrumba's "internet troubles" *wink wink...* continue


(OoC: Well it is very easy, if he doesn't answer soon we'll just say that his Govt. has lost interest in defending it's land and has pulled itself out, resulting in their army surrendering due to moral loss, letting us move in with no problems at all...)


OOC: I know many people who have lost internet connection for more then one week. Stop blaming him for nothing.
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Postby Globexanter » Sat Jun 18, 2011 5:54 am

Herrebrugh wrote:
Globexanter wrote:
(OoC: Well it is very easy, if he doesn't answer soon we'll just say that his Govt. has lost interest in defending it's land and has pulled itself out, resulting in their army surrendering due to moral loss, letting us move in with no problems at all...)


OOC: I know many people who have lost internet connection for more then one week. Stop blaming him for nothing.


(OoC: Yes, but these people do not tend to quickly go online on NS then offline again on a 2 day basis...)

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Ucrumba
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Postby Ucrumba » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:54 am

OoC:I get on when I can, and thankyou Herrebrugh for your faith, I will try to post as often as I can. The idea of RPing my government giving up is just not fair.
Alexiandra I did not roleplay your forces, you attacked me and I RP'ed my losses from your attack

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Postby Ucrumba » Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:05 pm

In response to the aggression shown by the blockade, the military and government decided that it was simply not fair. The order to prepare for an offensive manoevre was distributed. Along the coastline, Missile batteries were revealed from their camouflage covers and locked on to ships just visible off the coastline. It was the vital time to act, just as the navy was getting close to the waters, or what was left of it. All measures would have to be made to allow the remenants to limp into port.
At the HQ for the Eastern section, the admiral issued a warning to the blockading vessels
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To: All encircling forces in Ucrumban waters and whom it may concern
From: The Ucrumban admiralty
We would like to offer you the oppertunity to lift your futile blockade which to this point has been relatively bloodless. We would like to point out that our forces are ready to deliver a significant blow to your forces and several innovative measures have been prepared to maximise our attack.
To prevent this currently inevitable bloodshed, we advise your forces to pull out of our waters and make no attempt to engage our large taskforce, returning from the fight of their lives. They are withdrawing back to our nation and deserve safety and security of passage.
We hope that you can take the threat as seriously as it is meant and wish to inform you that any consequences could have been avoided if you are foolish enough to carry it out

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Postby Globexanter » Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:21 pm

Near the crippled and still being attacked Ucrumbian fleet, the G.N.F. ships were speeding up, as were the submarines. Already, the "canyon" tactic was being prepared. Each submarine had their own target, their own aims. Waiting for the Ucrumbian Fleet to speed up, the submarines again sat idle as they prepared their anti-air defenses, including some countermeasures which would give them enough time to run from the already detected Merlin helicopters. The submarines also held some civilian staff, therefore if an attack was carried out on them the United Kingdom would have a larger warrant to attack them.

Four minutes later, the countermeasures were running as the helicopters were away from the two groups, as the Fleet (which was still under fire by the allied forces) came into their range.

"Immediate order, prepare to fire on my mark! Three. Two. One. Fire at will, permission given now." said the Commander of the Fleet of submarines.

As he finished his orders, nearly at the same time on the other submarines, the Captains gave their orders to five. In total, at the near same time, 64 intelligent (i.e.: tracking, Fire & Forget style) high speed Torpedoes were launched, heading directly to the Ucrumbian Fleet. As soon as these were fired, the countermeasures were fired up as the Torpedo Deck Crews began to reload the firing systems, a long task even with slight mechanical aid. On the four SSBN submarines, whom had also fired their torpedoes, began to order their crews to prepare at least four Cruise Missiles. These could be used against the numerous aircraft present, or the enemy Fleet itself.

As the torpedoes began to speed up, locking onto their targets which were being given by the Command Centers in the numerous Globexanterian submarines (16 in total), the 20 or so ships which had left the 5th Fleet of Globexanter were speeding up, quickly approaching the enemy Fleet...

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Postby Centropyge » Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:58 pm

SHORT MESSAGE FROM THE CENTROPYGAN ADMIRALTY

TO: ALEXIANDRA, ALL RELEVANT ALEXIANDRAN MILITARY AGENCIES

Greetings. In light of the escalation of the situation in Ucrumba, we will expedite the arrival of Royal Navy Force B. It will still take one further week for the ships to arrive, but instead of sending all ships back to the Home Isles we will now attempt to mark them and replenish them en route to join your forces. They will be met en route by sea- and airborne supply units and should at least have provisional Alexiandran red-and-blue markings when they reach the blockade.

END TRANSMISSION

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SHORT MESSAGE FROM THE CENTROPYGAN ADMIRALTY

TO: UCRUMBA, ALL INTERESTED PARTIES

Greetings. This is a notice of intent served to inform you that a Royal Navy task force will be joining our Alexiandran allies in their blockade operations. We regret that the first contact between our nations should be a short and tense one. Our ships, aircraft, and Marines will be placed under the tactical control of their commanding admiral in the region. This is not a formal declaration of war.

END TRANSMISSION
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Postby Ucrumba » Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:59 pm

Seeing the torpedoes suddenly pop up on the VDU's in the operations rooms, The order was given for all the fleet to turn towards the nearest torpedoes. This would minimise the chance of the torpedoes hitting and prevent damage due to the reinforced bows of the Ucrumban navy.
At that moment the order was given to shut down the smoke charges which were decievingly portraying the fleet as on its last legs. This should serve as a message to the attackers that there was still plenty of venom left in the task force.
The Hedgehog depth charge launchers on the escort vessels launched a barrage of explosive charges in front of the vessels which would serve as a distraction to the guided torpedoes. Then came the explosion, similtaniously a line of water imploded and then exploded on the surface causing a white froth frontier all around the fleet. Under the surface, launched torpedoes were attracted to the charges and then were wiped out by the explosion.
Tracking the point from where the torpedoes originated the fleet issued instructions to the circling Merlins to intercept the individual submarines with rough coordinates for each sub. Banking around, Merlins headed towards the coordinates with their radars scanning the ocean below.
"Nearly home lads, keep that in mind" was the message being spread across the fleet

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Postby Alexiandra » Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:13 pm

Ucrumba wrote:Seeing the torpedoes suddenly pop up on the VDU's in the operations rooms, The order was given for all the fleet to turn towards the nearest torpedoes. This would minimise the chance of the torpedoes hitting and prevent damage due to the reinforced bows of the Ucrumban navy.
At that moment the order was given to shut down the smoke charges which were decievingly portraying the fleet as on its last legs. This should serve as a message to the attackers that there was still plenty of venom left in the task force.
The Hedgehog depth charge launchers on the escort vessels launched a barrage of explosive charges in front of the vessels which would serve as a distraction to the guided torpedoes. Then came the explosion, similtaniously a line of water imploded and then exploded on the surface causing a white froth frontier all around the fleet. Under the surface, launched torpedoes were attracted to the charges and then were wiped out by the explosion.
Tracking the point from where the torpedoes originated the fleet issued instructions to the circling Merlins to intercept the individual submarines with rough coordinates for each sub. Banking around, Merlins headed towards the coordinates with their radars scanning the ocean below.
"Nearly home lads, keep that in mind" was the message being spread across the fleet

Hmm... I've actually taken care to stay out of your missile range...so how did you lock on?
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Postby Globexanter » Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:14 pm

Alexiandra wrote:
Ucrumba wrote:Seeing the torpedoes suddenly pop up on the VDU's in the operations rooms, The order was given for all the fleet to turn towards the nearest torpedoes. This would minimise the chance of the torpedoes hitting and prevent damage due to the reinforced bows of the Ucrumban navy.
At that moment the order was given to shut down the smoke charges which were decievingly portraying the fleet as on its last legs. This should serve as a message to the attackers that there was still plenty of venom left in the task force.
The Hedgehog depth charge launchers on the escort vessels launched a barrage of explosive charges in front of the vessels which would serve as a distraction to the guided torpedoes. Then came the explosion, similtaniously a line of water imploded and then exploded on the surface causing a white froth frontier all around the fleet. Under the surface, launched torpedoes were attracted to the charges and then were wiped out by the explosion.
Tracking the point from where the torpedoes originated the fleet issued instructions to the circling Merlins to intercept the individual submarines with rough coordinates for each sub. Banking around, Merlins headed towards the coordinates with their radars scanning the ocean below.
"Nearly home lads, keep that in mind" was the message being spread across the fleet

Dude if you keep controlling my forces then I'm gonna ignore your posts


(OoC: That is his response to my post, and P.S.: Fire & Forget missiles don't get distracted by explosions, and turning that many ships isn't easy when the torpedoes are coming from all sides.)

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Postby Ucrumba » Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:27 pm

OoC:Yes but the ships are arranged in layers anyway so are protecting the ships. The explosives would still eliminate the torpedoes whether or not they actually came to them

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Postby Globexanter » Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:35 pm

Ucrumba wrote:OoC:Yes but the ships are arranged in layers anyway so are protecting the ships. The explosives would still eliminate the torpedoes whether or not they actually came to them


(OoC: Depth charges have a limit blast radius, you can't make them all blow up at the same time you know, some would get past. You don't have loads and loads of helicopters which can use depth charges, especially when still under heavy fire. Also, if the ships are in layers, this means some of the torpedoes would therefore strike those protecting the others, which you fully deny.)

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Postby Ucrumba » Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:54 pm

OoC:Its not the helicopters that were targeting the torpedoes, but the depth charge launchers on the ships which were syncronised to explode at the same time

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Postby Globexanter » Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:56 pm

Ucrumba wrote:OoC:Its not the helicopters that were targeting the torpedoes, but the depth charge launchers on the ships which were syncronised to explode at the same time


(OoC: Torpedoes move on the surface, you know. The time to launch all the helicopters, tell them what to do, and to drop all the depth charges and the torpedoes are nearly there. Let alone to add to the fact that, even if they were all set off at the same time, this means any late fired torpedo wont be affected.)

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Postby Ucrumba » Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:15 pm

OoC: As I said, it was nothing to do with helicopters, the depth charges were launched from ship mounted launchers, and also most modern torpedos dont float and it wouldnt matter if they did becuase they would be destroyed by the blast from the depth charges

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Postby Globexanter » Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:17 pm

Ucrumba wrote:OoC: As I said, it was nothing to do with helicopters, the depth charges were launched from ship mounted launchers, and also most modern torpedos dont float and it wouldnt matter if they did becuase they would be destroyed by the blast from the depth charges


(OoC: Not if some were fired late, again. Remember that if the torpedoes are close to the surface, so would need to be the depth charges. If these blew up nearer to the ship than a helicopter could take them, they could also damage the ship... Can't you face the fact that you cannot destroy 68 torpedoes fired at different times?)

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Postby Ucrumba » Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:35 pm

OoC:Thats a lot of torpedoes, i read 20, see my error, will RP some hits. but the defence systems are pretty good im damn adamant, that many of these torpedoes would have been wiped out by the barrage of depth charges launched. Plus ship launched depth charges wouldnt really be any use, if they didnt have the range to clear the ship.

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Postby Globexanter » Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:49 pm

Ucrumba wrote:OoC:Thats a lot of torpedoes, i read 20, see my error, will RP some hits. but the defence systems are pretty good im damn adamant, that many of these torpedoes would have been wiped out by the barrage of depth charges launched. Plus ship launched depth charges wouldnt really be any use, if they didnt have the range to clear the ship.


(OoC: You're facing a professional army my friend, not some people who fire their torpedoes at the same time. The entire time to fire these could of have took up to five or more minutes in certain volleys [in four volleys, to be precise], so don't think that 80% will be destroyed...)

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Postby Herrebrugh » Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:52 pm

OOC THREAD! Come on!
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Postby Ucrumba » Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:11 pm

With the first volley of torpedos taken care of, the next waves were detected to be on their way, the second and third waves weredelt with in a similar way to the first with the same hedgehog launchers launching depth charges our into the sea around the fleet. Yet again the explosions were phenominal and the torpedos were mainly wiped out. Several torpedos from the third batch did make it through however and veered towards various ships across the fleet. Thanfully the masterful arrangement of the ships payed dividends as two of the three torpedos ploughed into the bow of the ships causing little damage. Damage control teams were diverted to the bow to deal with what damage had been caused. However for the remaining T42, all was not so rosy, the onboard jammer had diverted a torpedo towards the ship away from the intended ship. This left the torpedo to plough head on into the side of the ship. For anyone on board, it was the end. The smouldering remains of the ship were sent sky high as fuel escaped from her tanks was detonated causing a huge blast. Flaming debris rained down on surrounding vessels injuring and killing people on their decks.

However despite the loss of one ship, the fourth wave proved the most dangerous. Many of the perimeter vessels hedgehog launchers hadnow expended their ordanance and were in need of topping up. This lead to huge gaps in the ring of depth charge defence. Whilst some were taken out many made it through and started to make contact with the bows of the many ships in the convoy. Three destroyers and two Frigates took hits. mainly to the bow although one passed along the edge and detonated on the port side. This was enough to seriously damage the ship and its fore armanents went offline. To the horror of all the operations room staff onboard any ship that was watching, one of the torpedos passed the ring of outer escorts and headed for the core fleet. The torpedo struck the exurtus battlecruiser around the aft, under the hanger causing cataclysmic damage. The ship now limped on dragging its smoking behind through the water like a tail.

Approaching the given coordinates Merlins started to find the submarines beneath the surface. Torpedos left their launchers and the first retaliation agains the submarines had begun. What estonished the crews of the helicopters were the significant numbers of submarines showing up on the sonar. "Ah well" thought one crewman "More targets for us to get"
To support the current merlins deployed as the anti sub net, many more from different ships lifted off and headed for the hot zones

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Postby Felbah » Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:35 am

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Postby Felbah » Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:42 am

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A Red Death (Peace agreement reached)
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