Commonwealth of Imperial Nations [OOC Thread]

[Chrinthanium]

OK, then...I guess I should inquire about this new possible Alliance...Anything you guys have already decided upon that I should know?

We are very much in the infancy stage of organization. The only thing decided upon is to continue together, this coalition of the willing. Outside of that, we're still organizing. Sorry for the mess, but at least we are beginning to move forward and create something which will be solely ours.

[Kylarnatia]

Something completely new for one.

Ok, how about we all sit down here and write up, very briefly, a general idea of what we want. That was we can all see where we agree and disagree and, as such, begin to organize around our common goals and ideas. I will start.

What I wish to see:

1: An organization dedicated to the preservation and defence of those who are Empires, and other like-minded governments.
2: That democracy reign in this new organization as the one and only way in which things become official.
3: That we not resort to arguments (though they aren't always avoidable) to deal with issues, but use the structure we create to address grievances and, through open and honest conversation, reach concensus opinion.
4: That we remember that such organization afford the members an opportunity to RP together. War is not the only RP to which such an organization can lend itself. Even simply character and diplomatic RPs are ripe for the creation through such an organization.
5: That we remember that, in all things, whatever this becomes will be our own creation, and by that caveat, we are all ambassadors of this organization and such conduct ourselves in the manner in which all representatives should.

I respect these and even follow their example.

In my small and somewhat inefficient time as Foreign Affairs Minister, I saw and believed that we'd be more successful if we opened up the alliance to democracies, mainly if they followed imperialist principle

[Itailian Maifias]

That and we need a better command structure

[Kylarnatia]

That and we need a better command structure

Indeed

[New Celisia]

I know what I want from this organization...

1. A safe house for the monarchies of the world.
2. A military alliance that will be able to swiftly come to the aid of it's members.
3. A place were we can speak in kind and be respectful towards one another.
4. An organization that will be known throughout NS for it's abilities.
5. Strong leadership.
6. Some form of Council
7.The ability to act when the Council can not be conducted fast enough.

[Itailian Maifias]

I know what I want from this organization...

1. A safe house for the monarchies of the world.
2. A military alliance that will be able to swiftly come to the aid of it's members.
3. A place were we can speak in kind and be respectful towards one another.
4. An organization that will be known throughout NS for it's abilities.
5. Strong leadership.
6. Some form of Council
7.The ability to act when the Council can not be conducted fast enough.

I have to agree with all 7 points.

If people want, I can take a swing at writing a Charter from what is discussed here

[Kylarnatia]

I know what I want from this organization...

1. A safe house for the monarchies of the world.
2. A military alliance that will be able to swiftly come to the aid of it's members.
3. A place were we can speak in kind and be respectful towards one another.
4. An organization that will be known throughout NS for it's abilities.
5. Strong leadership.
6. Some form of Council
7.The ability to act when the Council can not be conducted fast enough.

I have to agree with all 7 points.

If people want, I can take a swing at writing a Charter from what is discussed here

It wouldn't hurt to get a rough Idea

[Itailian Maifias]

I have to agree with all 7 points.

If people want, I can take a swing at writing a Charter from what is discussed here

It wouldn't hurt to get a rough Idea

*Cracks fingers*

Alright, let me work my magic and see what I can do. A few hours or so, seeing as I'm working atm

[Chrinthanium]

I am beginning to see what people are looking for. These are all good and honest suggestions.

Foremost, people want a defence alliance. They want to know that when their way of life is threatened by war, that there is an organization which will come to their aid and, in emergency situation, act even if the organization itself cannot move fast enough. Secondly, they wish to have a forum in which to discuss the business of the organization and in an open and honest arena, and that all decisions are reached democratically, rather than unilaterally, or by a few nations. It's quite evident there is a thirst for leadership, but not just any leadership, but strong leadership. A command structure which is followed and respected, rather than broken and ignored.

I would also add that, at the end of the day, this is supposed to be fun and entertaining. That, no matter what, we are still friends and aquaintences at the end of the day no matter our disagreements or arguments. That there is something here for everyone, but we never lose sight of our objectives and our beliefs.

So far, so good. I love these suggestions.

[Chrinthanium]

It wouldn't hurt to get a rough Idea

*Cracks fingers*

Alright, let me work my magic and see what I can do. A few hours or so, seeing as I'm working atm

Thank you for your assistance! I cannot wait to see what this all looks like in an official form, and in a form that all nations can agree upon.

[Chrinthanium]

This song came on as I was writing some of these posts. And I think it quite fits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-8ez6dGao8

Also, if you have IRC, come to the irc.esper.net and join #anewday if you can. There is where I am currently, and we can talk in there also, if we chose.

[Esternial]

*Cracks fingers*

Alright, let me work my magic and see what I can do. A few hours or so, seeing as I'm working atm

Thank you for your assistance! I cannot wait to see what this all looks like in an official form, and in a form that all nations can agree upon.

That would be great

[Chrinthanium]

I would like to discuss the point raised about the organization acting even if its leadership cannot move fast enough. Some sort of "Emergency Powers Act" which enables the alliance to defend its members until a security council can be conveined and make official decisions. Certainly with the speed of NS, not everyone will be readily available to simply jump online and meet. Thus, I propose that, in our charter, that the alliance may act if a member state is attacked or has war declared upon it by an outside force for a matter of time until the security council can be conveined and a formal decision made.

[Aquilinia]

I agree with all that has been said so far. I also think the new alliance should also aim to achieve the one thing the SEC did achieve: get people to actually do things together, and if it is talk.

[Chrinthanium]

I agree with all that has been said so far. I also think the new alliance should also aim to achieve the one thing the SEC did achieve: get people to actually do things together, and if it is talk.

Certainly, this is the main point of any alliance. Unity, my friend. We must act united or certainly we will be devouerd piece-meal.

[Jbeil]

So, the basic of the Alliance will be what? The defense of Monarchies again? Or will it open up to a larger audience with a greater idea and all in mind?

[Kylarnatia]

I would like to discuss the point raised about the organization acting even if its leadership cannot move fast enough. Some sort of "Emergency Powers Act" which enables the alliance to defend its members until a security council can be conveined and make official decisions. Certainly with the speed of NS, not everyone will be readily available to simply jump online and meet. Thus, I propose that, in our charter, that the alliance may act if a member state is attacked or has war declared upon it by an outside force for a matter of time until the security council can be conveined and a formal decision made.

Sounds like a good idea in context, but we're going to have to think of the more finer details on that to make sure it isn't confused and turns into another Flamebait.

[Kylarnatia]

So, the basic of the Alliance will be what? The defense of Monarchies again? Or will it open up to a larger audience with a greater idea and all in mind?

I propose it to be open to a much wider audience, wether that was heard or not remains to be proven

[Chrinthanium]

So, the basic of the Alliance will be what? The defense of Monarchies again? Or will it open up to a larger audience with a greater idea and all in mind?

It should be opened to a wider audience, I must admit. We must decide, though, what audience that is, and such. Perhaps Monarchies & Democracies as was previously suggested.

[Kylarnatia]

So, the basic of the Alliance will be what? The defense of Monarchies again? Or will it open up to a larger audience with a greater idea and all in mind?

It should be opened to a wider audience, I must admit. We must decide, though, what audience that is, and such. Perhaps Monarchies & Democracies as was previously suggested.

Imperialist Democracies I believe should be accepted, and maybe even normal Democracies in the future.

I think Elective Monarchies should be accepted as normal

[Jbeil]

It should be opened to a wider audience, I must admit. We must decide, though, what audience that is, and such. Perhaps Monarchies & Democracies as was previously suggested.

Imperialist Democracies I believe should be accepted, and maybe even normal Democracies in the future.

I think Elective Monarchies should be accepted as normal

Imperialist Democracies?
As in ones that acquire colonies and the like? Because if so, I don't exactly see the similarities between them and the Monarchies. Some Monarchies don't have colonies.

[Aquilinia]

Jbeil has a point.

My suggestion is we say monarchies get an almost certain admission (unless denied for other reasons, e.g. crappy RP), while other nations where one person has the main power (dictatorships, presidential republics (cf. USA, France)) are welcome to apply too.

[Greater Tezdrian]

TWR's received a week of enforced vacation, which may be upgraded to the pink slip pending discussion among the higher-ups. And I would be against allowing Imperialist democracies as I believe such a thi g is unsustainable and would lead to instability among the Organization.

[Aquilinia]

TWR's received a week of enforced vacation, which may be upgraded to the pink slip pending discussion among the higher-ups. And I would be against allowing Imperialist democracies as I believe such a thi g is unsustainable and would lead to instability among the Organization.

Enforced vacation plus DEAT. He is already gone.

And I agree. See my proposal above.

[Kylarnatia]

TWR's received a week of enforced vacation, which may be upgraded to the pink slip pending discussion among the higher-ups. And I would be against allowing Imperialist democracies as I believe such a thi g is unsustainable and would lead to instability among the Organization.

It has been upgraded to a DEAT - though I do hope they change their mind or something ;(

Also, I think we should allow them in, maybe as some sort of 'prospect' - as one of the SECs flaws was not widening its horizons.