Commonwealth of Imperial Nations [OOC Thread]

[Chrinthanium]

Well, how about this, then.

Membership is open to the following: Monarchies (Absolute rule or Constitutional or some variation thereof), Democracies born from former Monarchies, Democracies which do not dislike or otherwise hate monarchies, and, perhaps, dictatorships that aren't monarchies?

[Aquilinia]

Well, how about this, then.

Membership is open to the following: Monarchies (Absolute rule or Constitutional or some variation thereof), Democracies born from former Monarchies, Democracies which do not dislike or otherwise hate monarchies, and, perhaps, dictatorships that aren't monarchies?

Former Monarchies only if there went all 1789 and did a violent revolution, imo.

[Itailian Maifias]

Charter of the To Be Determined


Preamble

The following Charter shall be the basis of this alliance. It shall form the very foundation on which the alliance is set. No foundation shall ever survive if the support beams break and as such, all members of this alliance shall be expected to follow the rules, laws and guidelines set forth by this Charter

Article I: Definitions and Terms


§1 TTBD is defined as the entirety of the entire alliance of itself, from X to X.

§2 The TBD shall be hence forth known as X

§3This document shall henceforth be known as the Official Charter of the X


Article II: Offices, Organizations, Departments of X

§1 The Head of X shall be the President of X. The President shall co-preside over the entire alliance with the founder, who shall forever be Chrinthanium unless said founder explicitly hands over founder status to another nation. The President shall be elected every other month by the entire populace of the alliance and the person with the most votes in the election shall be considered the new President

§2 The President may be removed from office should a clear and present majority of the alliance votes to remove him in a formal vote. Likewise, the founder may be removed by a clear and present majority of the alliance taken in a formal vote

§3 The President shall be in charge of overseeing, creating and helping the various Departments of X

§4 The Alliance Assembly shall be the legislative of the alliance. It shall be compromised of five elected members of the alliance, who shall serve one month terms. Every month, an election is to be held. The five people receiving the most votes will be the next Representatives. Inside the Assembly, the Representatives may and can elect and Speaker, who shall oversee and be in charge of the Assembly

§5 The Assembly may be disbanded before an election if the Assembly has fallen inactive. In order to disband, the alliance must take a formal vote and a clear and present majority must vote to disband the Assembly

§6 The President, by the authority of this charter shall create the following Departments; The Department of Finance which shall oversee the financial and monetary actions of the alliance and be responsible for managing the alliance's funds; The Department of War shall be in charge of managing the X Defence Force which shall be the military of the alliance; The Department of Foreign Affairs shall be in charge of overseeing the foreign diplomatic missions of the alliance and establishing connections with the other alliances in the world. The President shall have the authority to create other departments as he see's fit in order to help run the alliance more smoothly

§7 The President and Founder shall hold trials for all nations within the alliance to be found in breach of any alliance laws, Charter or guidelines. They shall have to appoint three Judges from within the alliance.

§8 Should the Assembly and various Departments established by this Charter fail to have their posts filled within a three day period, their responsibilities shall fall to the President to manage and execute.


Article III: Rights and Responsibilities of the Member Nation


§1 The Member Nation of the X shall be, upon acceptance into the X bound legally by this Charter and all clauses and Articles therefore in it.

§2 The Member Nation must provide 1.2% of their GDP towards the administration, defense and other costs of the X.

§3 The Member Nation shall operate a free trade policy with all other Member Nations of the alliance. No Member Nation shall issue an embargo on another member nation without authorization from the Assembly, President and Founder

§4 The Member Nation may opt out of whatever protection the X's Defense Force provide for land, air and sea travel and trade routes. This does not allow member states to opt out of Artic III.II.

§5 Upon a member nation being attacked by another power, the Member Nation has the right to request intervention from the Alliance Defense Force and the Armed Forces of Member Nations without following the processes as stated in Articles III.III and III.IV.

§6 In order for the alliance to declare war on an nation or another international, national or regional organization, the President needs confirmation from the Assembly


Article IV: Issues of Sovereignty


§1 All Member Nations, the President, Assembly, and all other organizations, departments and bodies within it, shall respect the right of the Member Nation to independence of domestic organization, policy and action, unless it is in violation of one of these articles and clauses or against a fellow member nation.

§2 Member Nations, in accordance with Article III.I, and the rights and limitations set out thereof, have the right to operate military action against a foreign nation in any way they wish.

§3 The Alliance, following a simple majority vote of the Assembly, has the right to intervene in any conflict within or fought by, member nations in either support or opposition to, said member nation.

§4 Should the Assembly not be in operation at a time when activation of Article III.III is requested, a majority of the General Membership, as well as approval by the President and Founders, is required before action can be taken.


Article V: Expulsion and Resignation of Members


§1 All Member nations retain the right to resign from X via an official government communique

§2 A Member Nation may only be expelled by a general majority vote in the alliance or via a sentence issued in the Alliance Courts

§3 A Member Nation may only be expelled in the above way.


Article VI: Amending the Charter


§1 The Charter may only be amended via a simple majority vote taken in which all members of the alliance may take part

§2 Amendments shall be named either as Amendment I, Amendment II and hence, or as simply further Articles added onto existing ones, Article V.IV, Article III.V, and so forth.

§3 Amendments and Articles may be struck off following the process set out in Article VI.I.

Ta da. Thoughts?

[Aquilinia]

That looks a lot like a modified copypasta from the last SEC charter....

Also, I think President isn't the right title for the leader. Sounds too democratic

Chairman perhaps?

[Chrinthanium]

Definitely. Though, we must be a little less inclusive than this, otherwise all of NS falls within our sphere and I would assume we're searching for something a bit more specific than general.

So, then, we admit the following:

Monarchies
Republics/Democracies peacefully formed from Monarchies
Democracies sympathetic to monarchies

Perhaps dictatorships are not quite what we're looking for, though some monarchies are just that.

[Itailian Maifias]

That looks a lot like a modified copypasta from the last SEC charter....

Also, I think President isn't the right title for the leader. Sounds too democratic

Chairman perhaps?

I didn't copy and pasta, but I used parts of it

[Aquilinia]

That looks a lot like a modified copypasta from the last SEC charter....

Also, I think President isn't the right title for the leader. Sounds too democratic

Chairman perhaps?

I didn't copy and pasta, but I used parts of it

Yes you did. You even took some of the wrong references, I think. Still, looks good to me.

[The Matthew Islands]

I liked the S.E.C, however for me it was more of a social function than something pertaining to my RP experience of NS. However, I now realise that if we really want this to work, it will take hard work, and I have decided that I will do my best to step up to the plate. While I would not want a proper leadership role like the directors in the S.E.C, I would be willing to make more of an effort and take and active role in the government.

I also think a chairman kind of government should be reviewed at depth. Look at how decisions went in the S.E.C. I definitely think some sort of council with a chairperson of said council (like a committee) would be best.

[Dewhurst-Narculis]

OOC:Wha!? Why did the SEC disband?

IC:As part of PLAN-T, the Imperial Grand Duchy of Dewhurst-Narculis is currently withdrawing it's self from all alliances, but we will support this alliance from afar.

[Jbeil]

Well then, I would fit into 2 of the three criteria to be a member...

[Aquilinia]

OOC:Wha!? Why did the SEC disband?

IC:As part of PLAN-T, the Imperial Grand Duchy of Dewhurst-Narculis is currently withdrawing it's self from all alliances, but we will support this alliance from afar.

Read the last few pages of the thread, Dew. Blade quit, and a shitstorm over authority ensued.

Well then, I would fit into 2 of the three criteria to be a member...

I am glad to hear that!

[Chrinthanium]

OOC:Wha!? Why did the SEC disband?

IC:As part of PLAN-T, the Imperial Grand Duchy of Dewhurst-Narculis is currently withdrawing it's self from all alliances, but we will support this alliance from afar.

It went KABOOM big time, my friend. This phoenix is being born from its ashes, and we're still forming as you can see. Thank you for your support.

Also, as far as the current charter draft, I am in favor of it, except instead of calling the leader the President, how about we call the leader Director, Chairman (Or Chairperson), or Imperator, or something other than PResident.

[Aquilinia]

I am against Director (for obvious reasons).

[Chrinthanium]

I am against Director (for obvious reasons).

Then, it seem, that a concensus seems to lean towards the term Chairman/Chairperson

Are we agreed thus far?

[Itailian Maifias]

I am against Director (for obvious reasons).

Then, it seem, that a concensus seems to lean towards the term Chairman/Chairperson

Are we agreed thus far?

Sure, I like Chairman

[The Matthew Islands]

I am against Director (for obvious reasons).

Then, it seem, that a concensus seems to lean towards the term Chairman/Chairperson

Are we agreed thus far?

I definitely think a Chairman/women for females is best. I also think installing a committee would be best as well. It doesn't infer authority. I also think at this moment in time, Democracy will be our friend, so we will need some form of voting.

[Jbeil]

Chairman is fine. There is also General-Secretary, among others of course.

[Esternial]

Indeed, Director is such a "loaded" term, imo.

[Chrinthanium]

Right, obviously political correctness harkens to a term like Chairperson, but Chairman/women used interchangably is also fine. The point is, upon review, that Chairman seems to be where everyone is leaning.

We're well on our way to establishing a new alliance. The basics are falling into place, and the specifics can be hammered out as time progresses. It is great to see us in an open forum, debating and offering opinion and everyone being respectful of said opinions. This is how alliances work, and in my honest opinion, this is how they should all work. I am proud to be a member of this organization!

Now, a name, a name, my kingdom for a name. Well, not really my kingdom, but you get the idea. Perhaps we can call it The Alliance of Monarchist States or something to that effect.

[Chrinthanium]

For a brief period, I must away from the internet to deal with a RL situation. I will be back within the hour, though.. please, keep up what has begun so wonderfully. I think we're well on our way. Also, people like George haven't given much input, and perhaps we need some time to allow all parties involved to offer their opinions. Jbeil, i would welcome you to the group, quite openly.

Once we get a name, and a general idea of our charter, which we are attaining, we can open up a recruitment thread and an actual IC Organization thread.

Name ideas:

Imperial Coalition
The Alliance of Monarchist States
Coalition of Imperialist States

And, since this is born of the ashes, The Phoenix Alliance.

Just a few suggestions from me. The name will come in time.

[Aquilinia]

The Phoenix Alliance?

That one sounds awesome. Honestly.

[Chrinthanium]

The Phoenix Alliance?

That one sounds awesome. Honestly.

yeah, I do like that one.

[The Matthew Islands]

The Phoenix Alliance?

That one sounds awesome. Honestly.

This. But Its late so I will have to go for the night. But I will be back tomorrow to see how its going.

[Esternial]

The Phoenix Alliance?

That one sounds awesome. Honestly.

Just Phoenix, from the ashes we are reborn

[Itailian Maifias]

I suggest

Guardians of the Old

Guardians of the Crown

Guardians of the West

International Imperial Federation