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New Edomite Peace Conference (Open)

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Postby New Edom » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:31 pm

OOC: just as an aside, I know a couple of posters here are just in junior high or early high school; I think your writing is very good. No need to feel self conscious.

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“Did Mr. Hangyun just say ‘legitimate government’?”demanded General Jonathan Abiathar, his face reddening. “Let me remind the honourable gentleman from Sensal that the so-called King Mark Obed seized power from the New Day Party, and declared himself King. He has about as much right to the throne as I have—less than that, I’d say. House of Shalmaneser indeed, nothing but puppets for the Cantrians.”

Touchstone put a hand on his arm and said with a bland smile at Hangyun, “I think what we’re hearing is the honourable gentleman from Oshung.” Sif Finnhald laughed but said nothing.

They listened to what Minister Caine said next, and just as Prince Philip Tubal-Cain was happily remarking, “That sounds like a very reasonable compromise indeed,”

Touchstone said curtly, “That’s totally unacceptable.”

He and the others listened to the elaborations made by the Helladrian and RGN delegates, and Touchstone went on. “It sounds like a very awkward compromise; for example cooperation between armed forces and intelligence agencies is utterly necessary. I’m curious about something—why can’t we try to resolve this with general elections? I’d be quite willing, actually, to abide by the will of the citizens of New Edom. Would that be possible? Could we agree on a position that either government would take and then abide by that decision?”

Prince Philip Tubal-Cain remarked drily, “It’s like resolving it by a flip of a coin.”

“Not at all,” Touchstone put in. “Listen: if you guys manage to win the election then Mark Obed is elected Monarch according to a constitution. All I would want is this:
1. Amnesty regardless of who wins.
2. Serving officers and military units place themselves under the command of a defense ministry serving the winning government.
3. A peaceful political opposition can remain in place—using legislation, law and orderly protest.
4. An election carried out throughout New Edom, in every province and in every district and town; everyone who could legitimately vote before the war gets registered the way they did to elect Legislators, only in this case they’re voting for a head of government and state.

“The thing is,” Touchstone went on, “We don’t have to do this. This is the compromise we’re proposing. A number of the government plans sound fine, but I’ll be honest, I like the Helladrian Plan without Mark Obed in it. But if the Monarchists win the election I’ll bend the knee and serve him as my King. If he doesn’t, I’ll expect him to officially abdicate and be a patriot even if he disagrees.”

The Archbishop looked very thoughtful and said something quietly to Prince James, who nodded. He said something in the ear of Prince Philip Tubal-Cain.

Prince Philip Tubal-Cain said a little grimly, “Consider this a moment Mr. Touchstone: clearly a number of nations here favour keeping King Mark on the throne…so I’m wondering this: do all our foreign friends agree that they would be willing to accept such an election? Because I’ll be perfectly blunt: if we won an election it would be with a modification of the Helladrian Plan. King Mark as head of state and government, with the Legislature only dealing with matters of putting forth bills of law, budgets in accordance with said laws, and oversight of such matters of spending and law. In other words the way things were before the civil war. That’s what we want.”

Touchstone smiled. “Well, Philip, here’s the thing really. I don’t mind taking that risk. Because if I’m wrong and the people of New Edom don’t want the vital changes I’m offering them, then I’m wrong and we need to go back to the way things were. But if I’m right, then you’ll see that for yourselves and in the eyes of the world and with the help of peacekeepers keeping the peace.” He sipped from his glass of water. “Of course, I’d like to hear the opinions of our foreign friends on that.”
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Postby Helladria » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:32 pm

Natazs Photi decided to pose a query. "President Touchstone, I do not doubt your sincerity, but should the elections favor King Obed, would you say that all of those who fight under your banner will yield as willingly? Taking the thought a step further, if New Edom were to return to its pre-civil war status, by what means can we prevent future civil strife from occurring, as well as a replay of the grievances that sparked this conflict?"

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Postby New Edom » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:49 pm

Touchstone looked surprised. "why, I didn't think of that. And you know Glasstower and Sterry are in the hands of people who have political views not quite so reasonable as my own. Mow personally and speaking as President I know that the have confidence that I will bring them a treaty that satisfies our agreed upon political aims. But if I didn't, well, i would hardly represent them then."
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Postby RandomGuyNation » Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:55 pm

OOC: Oh my God, I am going to sound like such an idiot...my writing is perhaps good, but my ideas suck >.<
If my ideas are really dumb or radical or messed up, forgive me and try not to rub it in, please. Thanks!

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Caine spoke up. "No matter who comes into power, steps must be taken to peacefully integrate the Republican and Monarchist fighters into the reconstituted New Edom military. Regardless of whoever wins the elections, I propose that this must be the first priority. After all, a united military is a strong military. Please understand that what I am proposing is not to divide the military into pro-Monarchist and pro-Republican factions; rather, I am saying that the soldiers from both factions must be mixed together in the same units, down to the fireteam level. Of course, tensions between the troops will be high at first."
"And how exactly do we fix that? Well, combat is the ultimate bonding experience. I myself know this from my own days as an enlisted man in the RGN Navy. So, to erase tensions and encourage bonding and loyalty between the New Edomite soldiers, after integration and, well, getting acquainted, the New Edom armed forces will begin war games, on a small scale at first, like Company A versus Company B, but gradually working up to the Division, or even Army level. These war games should be Monarchist versus Republican; they should be New Edomite versus New Edomite. These war games should make the soldiers of New Edom sever their loyalty to their former factions and instead encourage loyalty to their comrades and their leaders."
"Of course, this is just a suggestion. I'd appreciate feedback from everyone here."
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Postby New Edom » Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:28 pm

Prince James nodded. "That's a good idea for integration following the war, though I can see a few difficulties. One of them is esprit de corps--are you suggesting that for example units that went entirely over to one side or the other be broken up? Not that I'm saying it's impossible," he remarked, glancing at General Hesperinus, who was rigid but could clearly barely contain himself. "But say you take a regiment that has troops in it that have been serving together for years. On the other hand I can certainly see the social and political merits in what you're suggesting. Getting back to what Mr. Touchstone just said, I can see that there's a problem with the idea of elections if for example nothing changed at all. And let's be honest, I don't believe that he is really surprised, so perhaps Mr. Touchstone has a suggestion for us?"

Touchstone nodded. "I was getting to that--some points of clarity about the amnesty. What we would want at the very least are some guarantees about labour and economics. We would want the following concessions to be in a treaty regardless of what is agreed about political processes.
1. That a minimum wage be agreed upon that will exist throughout the nation.
2. That compensatory pay and benefits be offered to those engaged in dangerous work or seriously injured in the line of their work.
3. That Internationally accepted labour conditions and health and safety standards be maintained--and we'd like at least three countries to back us on this in inspecting facilities and large companies here.
4. That at least one polytechnic per major city in New Edom be funded and started with the idea in mind being that following graduation opportunities for employment within New Edom in skilled trades in the petroleum, mining, agriculture and forestry industries will become available to New Edomites.
5. That foreign experts hired to perform necessary work in the above industries will be hired on a temporary contract basis only to be reviewed following graduation of New Edomites from said polytechnics.
6. That trade treaties with foreign countries and international corporations should not take the control of New Edom's natural resources out of New Edomite hands.
7. That freedom of religion should be maintained throughout New Edom.
8. That political protest in a peaceful manner will be tolerated and accepted.

These are our conditions." Touchstone sipped from his glass of water again.
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Postby Wolfmanne » Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:31 am

To: New Edomite Peace Conference

Apologies for not being able to respond. We understand we have a substantial amount of peacekeeping units in New Eadom but a civil war in one of our colonies (Wolfmanne Rhodesia) has caused us to stray away from New Edom problem. Please allow us to join as a late delegate and also may we have an update over what has happened.

Yours, Wolfmanne
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Postby New Edom » Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:35 pm

Wolfmanne's participation in the peacekeeping efforts and in the peace conference is very welcome. There is a place saved for a delegate.

- Archbishop William Laudner
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Postby Ossurwald » Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:26 pm

"Minister Caine," said Tancred, "I believe our objection wasn't to the integration of the units; it was under whose control the various military, intelligence, and police agencies would fall. Soldiers are soldiers. It takes extraordinary circumstances for them to sacrifice military protocol. Anyhow I suspect that the New Edomites are capable of figuring out methods of integrating their forces?"

Calleido nodded. "I think many of your policies are the sort that any nation would want to instill, Mr. Touchstone. Obviously these are preconditions to the election, and thus it requires that the Monarchists agree to it.

"I want to discuss these elections. So both sides are agreed on a modification of the Helladrian Plan, correct? Under Obed, it will be that Mark Obed is both head of state and government in a kingship of hereditary or otherwise appointed succession, correct? Under the Free Congress, it will be a republican form of government with a semi-presidential system where the legislature selects the head of government while the head of state is elected nationally? Should there not be a compromise? A more constitutional monarchy? Why not have the people vote for all three choices, then do a run-off if necessary? Then it becomes a matter of not who you support, but who can best explain their option to the people."

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Postby New Edom » Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:38 pm

"Just to clarify that," said Touchstone, looking up from notes he was scribbling, "What three options are you referring to?"

"And another thing, will the peacekeeping nations present and others support the results of such an election, and help make it possible for people to vote?" asked Prince James.
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Postby Ossurwald » Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:47 pm

"Well, you referred to an election, in which the people would choose a head of state and a head of government. Perhaps that is enough. I assumed that there would be two options, a Republican choice and a Monarchist choice, since that seemed to be what you were asking, that if Obed wins, you will swear fealty. And if you were to win, you would expect his abdication. What of a third option, in which both of you win?" Calleido said to Touchstone.

"And I will accept the results of an election, as long as it is fair and open. I will be glad to provide observers to that end."

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Postby Helladria » Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:33 pm

New Edom wrote:"Just to clarify that," said Touchstone, looking up from notes he was scribbling, "What three options are you referring to?"

"And another thing, will the peacekeeping nations present and others support the results of such an election, and help make it possible for people to vote?" asked Prince James.


Secretary Photi spoke up. "Helladria would be willing to support the results of any election if we believe that both sides are clear on the possible risks and consequences and willfully enter into such an agreement. I do see difficulties however with the decision to leave the future of New Edom to a single election. As I suggested earlier, I believe the proposal to have the election decide abdication versus democratic rule is unwise, unless it can address the fundamental concerns that brought about the civil war, as well as the concerns that brought about the coup that overthrew the New Day Party. Please elaborate, monomme Stadtwalda."
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Postby Ossurwald » Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:59 pm

"Perhaps," said Calleido, "the representatives of New Edom might consider a national Truth and Reconciliation Commission so as to address the root causes of the war. You are right though, Ms. Photi, that it is beyond the capability of any single election to decide the future of the nation of New Edom. That will be the realm of many people making many decisions."

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Postby New Edom » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:04 am

“Alright, that’s something that makes sense, an investigation into causes of the war.” Dr. Elizabeth Salt said. She seemed tense; at times her knuckles seemed to whiten as she touched a pencil or lifted her glass of water to her lips. Her lips tightened as she listened to everyone and now and then she glanced at the Archbishop. No other New Edomite in the room seemed to accept the proposal though; General Hesperinus, hairy and grouchy, sat still as a predatory beast; General Abiathar squirmed; Sif Finnhald licked her lips and glanced at William Touchstone. It was as though Calleidos had farted rather than spoken.

“Let’s say we accepted the compromise generally right now.” Archbishop William Laudner put into the awkward silence. “So would it be that Mark Obed is King, William Touchstone is Prime Minister, and what precisely, talking of the two leaders, are their responsibilities? How do they compromise when executive decisions about defense, use of national resources, treaties and diplomacy, decisions about labour are made? What happens with the fact that we have two foreign ministers, two ministers of trade, two ministers of defense, two chiefs of the general staff?”
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Postby Ossurwald » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:24 am

"A truth and reconciliation commission is not solely an investigation into the causes of war. It is a way of dredging up the wrongs of all sides, bringing injustices which might be swept under the rug out into the open. What you do with the revelations is entirely your choice, whether it's immunity for truth-telling or sentencing of some sort. But 'sunlight,' so they say, 'is the best disinfectant.' Of course, I understand if both sides are opposed to such openness," said Calleido. "Not every nation is capable of such a momentous feat."

He looked at the Archbishop. "One option is to decide what is the business of the King and what is the business of the legislature. A typical balance is to allow the legislature control over the purse strings and have the King act as an executive for the will of the legislature as well as commander of the military and foreign representative. As for the reconciliation of your dual governments, I can see two options. First, all of the King's government become crown liasons between the Cabinet and the King. Alternatively, a general election for control of the legislature can be held, and if the monarchists win, they become the government and if they lose, they become His Majesty's Loyal Opposition."

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Postby New Edom » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:39 am

"Crown liasons," said Prince Philip Tubal-Cain. "How does that work, exactly, in your opinion?"

"Or different governments--so in other words King Mark," said Sif Finnhald careless of the title (after all, she thought, either he will be or he won't be, it's a moot point) "Would be head of state anyway in this plan, but the Monarchist Ministers themselves stand for election and us as well?" She glanced at Touchstone.
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Postby Ossurwald » Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:04 am

"Simply enough," said Calleido to Phillip. "You're foreign minister for the King right now? So say Ms. Finnhald here is New Edom's new Foreign Minister under the compromise. You act as the liaison from the King. When Ms. Finnhald and the government make a decision, you advise them as to the King's feelings on the matter, and when they have made their decision, you relay that decision to the King. The monarchy and the government, if the nation is organized with a monarch, will have to have this no matter what. What the King does with such decisions is up to your factions to decide right now."

He looked at Finnhald "The parties stand for election, Ms. Finnhald. Unless you would prefer that each cabinet position is elected separately. Surely you're fighting for democracy right now? I shouldn't have to tell you that the Iron Law of democracy is that no party stays in power all the time. Even sham elections have been known to backfire. But that's democracy for you. It's always unpredictable."

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Postby New Edom » Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:37 am

"There's a lot of factors that would go into it," Sif mused, hiding her growing attraction towards Calleidos. She admired him so much; she had absolutely loved his campaign and felt a little humbled by the experience he represented here. She couldn't keep a smile off her face as she looked at the suave Stadtwalda. "Okay, so what we'd be looking at regardless is an interim government, right? What if we adopted your idea about the Crown Advisors or whatever we'd call them, for the Monarchists, but they build up an actual Monarchist Party to stand for election and office in whatever the given time is, and we form the government?"

"That's ridiculous," snapped Prince Philip Tubal-Cain. "Why in the world would we do that?"

Sif unhesitatingly stepped over the gap of tension that divided Touchstone and Tubal-Cain, looking into his eyes. "Because, Philip, you'd be the guy close to the King. I have to cooperate with you in order to get anything done. The King still decides how foreign policey is carried out, I just inform you of the options. If we argue, nothing gets done. We make deals. You know I'm looking at Dr. Salt over there. She's reminding me of something. People are dying out there." Sif took a deep breath. "My brother's one of them; he's out there commanding the 15th Cavalry. Who knows if he's alive or dead one day to the next. You have family out there too. I'd rather ask you if I can have a meeting with the King or if you'll take my ideas to him that be responsible for that any more than is necessary. And I think I'd like to know, Mr. Calleidos--what's a reasonable time within which to hold elections? And do you think this interim government idea could work?"
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Postby Ossurwald » Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:17 pm

"Every nation is a unique situation. In Ossurwald, the revolution was won after seven years of fighting. It took another two years to produce a constitution and then it was four months before we elected our first Stadtwalda and one year when we elected our first Velstaad. During that time the nation was under the control of the Provisional Directorate of Ossurwald. Of course our situation was different, we were in total control of the nation with all sides agreed on democracy. What you have here is a compromise government. Both sides need to walk away knowing they've won something. And then you need to agree to a government, to support that government even when it goes against you, which means you need to believe that fundamentally, it is fair and works for everyone equally. Otherwise, someday in the future, some other New Edomites will be having this same discussion or one like it.

"Hold an election when your whole country can vote, that's my advice," said Calleido.

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Postby New Edom » Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:11 pm

"I've just gotten off the phone with the King," said Prince Philip Tubal-Cain gravely. "Concerns about the nature of Vici Minerva's peacekeeping are still...unsatisfactory. In light of this, the King wishes me to propose the following:

1. That we immediately implement the Carrington Plan as a form of emergency government. It will be upheld until such time as we have been able to iron out the details of following the Photi Plan.

2. That as a compromise we agree that Air Marshal Henry Achan will act as Minister of Defense, and General Lord Dunsinaine as Chief of the General Staff, Admiral Charles Rand as Chief of Naval Staff, General Jonathan Abiathar as Chief of Army Staff, Air Marshal Edward Stewart as Chief of Air Staff.

3. That we form an emergency, interim cabinet consisting of the following persons:
Foreign Minister: Ms. Sif Finnhald
Governor-General of Teman and Raith Immel: Myself, Philip Tubal-Cain
Justice: Ms. Sarah Carmel
Natural Resources and Oil: Benjamin Kent
Health and Welfare: Kyron Stone
National Security: John Kohath
Labour: Adon Zelek
Transport: Charlotte Ravel
Commerce: Randall Fabian

4. That as per the plan that three Tribunes hold the position of executive and share the responsibility during this time of national emergency. This will enable us to make treaties and form a new government. King Mark Obed, President William Touchstone, Archbishop William Laudner."

He paused. He looked grey, and actually gasped for breath for a moment. "I hope we can all agree to this. Mr. President," he said to Touchstone, whose nostrils flared, "I would like to ask that you accept it, and you, Excellency," he said, turning to the Archbishop. "And you, our honoured guests. Our task is so far from over it is dizzying. I believe that we may succeed if we try things this way."
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Postby Helladria » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:26 pm

Like the rest of the Helladrian entourage, Natazs Photi was shocked. She leaned in and gave a quick consultation with Stephe Lavrent, and gave a gesture to the Helladric security officer standing next to them, signaling a heightened alert status. Outside of the conference room, one security officer continued to stand guard, while the other two who had roamed the resort grounds near the conference room, surveying the people and visually mapping the grounds, returned to the conference room.

Natazs Photi spoke up. "This is unbelievable. Is it war, then? What of the Vici Minervan delegation?"
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"With the permission on the Tribunes, Calsandria will not allow a bloodbath to happen. We cannot allow the situation to worsen, ALL factions involved must have their safety ensured if any honourable solution is to be arrived at." Carrington responded.
"What is the situation to Your Grace's knowledge? Can we render any assistance in defence of these proceedings?" he quizzed in a manner of expertly defence.
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Postby New Edom » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:42 am

“What it comes to is this. The United League of Nations has ignored every request we have made to have this matter addressed. We have as evidence transcripts here of Vici Minerva’s stubborn refusal to explain with actual clarity their position here. We also have a great deal of concern about the fact that while New Korongo agreed to attend the conference we haven’t had any response from them either. Admittedly New Korongo has a crisis of their own to deal with.

This is our evidence, presented to everyone here. Vici Minerva has been given many chances to rectify the situation and has not made their position as clear as would be required by their actions.

Dearest Archbishop, I see that it is dire times in New Edom, with this civil war, I can see that your nation's precious citizens are distraught. I can't help but show my disgust at this terrible civil war, and can only speak through actions by sending in the 1st SS Panzer Korps to provide Humanitarian aid, along with 2,000 supply trucks loaded with necessities are brought to New Edom. This force shall be commanded by Vici Minerva's most pristine commander Field Marshal King Bradley. Noted that the Panzer Korps will come via armored vehicles, so be sure to explain to your citizens not to fret at the sight of the foreign tanks, as we are AID WORKERS NOT CONQUERERS.

Here is the organisational structure for the SS Panzer Korps for your own comfort.

First SS Panzer Korps
Commander: Field Marshal King Bradley


1st SS Panzer Division, "Ghost"
Commander: Field Marshal King Bradley


2nd SS Panzer Division, "The Bastards"
Commander: Lieutenant General Hanz Landa


3rd SS Panzer Division, "Cthulhu's Wrath"
Commander: Lieutenant General Bruno Lovecraft


4rd SS Tactical Panzer Division, "Dead Pool"
Commander: Lieutenant General Slade Vilson


I do hope that you find that the Vici Minervan forces of beneficial use. May Lady Justice seek out the favorable side.

Sincerely,
Franz Lovecraft, Lord Marshal of the Fascist Senate.


To Franz Lovecraft, Lord Marshal of the Fascist Senate

Greetings and saluations. I am a little surprised by the sheer size of the peacekeeping force you would like to send, and I'm afraid that we are reluctant, at this time, to permit such a huge force to land on our shores, and so we are formally requesting that you consider sending supplies by air or sea which can land at a designated zone. In spite of the civil war we cannot imagine that you need to send entire tank divisions to act as peacekeepers. Our thanks for your care and consideration,

Archbishop William Laudner

Dear Archbishop Laudner,

Please excuse the fact that we have mobilized the 1st SS Panzer Korps into your nation without notifying you. Please forgive this incident, as we were preoccupied with preparing the Korp itself with mobilization. We still remain extremely disgusted by the damage that this conflict is causing and we hope that the peace talks go well. In order to further refine our hope, we shall send in Senator Vilhelm Tarquin and ten diplomatic agents to either participate of observe the peace talks. If you'd wish to further contact us, simply telegram us and we'll try to respond as soon as possible.

Yours truly,
Franz Lovecraft,
Lord Marshal of the Fascist Senate and Vici Minerva.


To: Franz Lovecraft, Lord Marshal of Vici Minerva

You are in grave error. At the moment you are in violation of New Edomite sovereignty by the actions of your Panzer Korps. First of all, you have sent them into Monarchist territory, the Province of Raith Immel, where there is no fighting of any kind. Secondly, there is a cease fire which has been the case for the last week. You have not declared your intentions, nor have you acknowledged my previous communiqué.
I have advised Archbishop Laudner, and Mr. Touchstone, of this incursion into New Edomite territory. I advise you to halt your forces immediately. I have, in addition, informed the United League of Nations of your actions and my expectation that you justify them before that body, of which both our countries are members.

Mark Obed, King of New Edom

RESPONSE TELEGRAM TO MARK OBED

I'd like to first state that I understand your dismal attitude towards the SS Panzer Korps as we have technically entered into your nation with vaguely any message to aware you of our presence. THOUGH I'd like to point out to you that Field Marshal King Bradley is supreme commander of all ULN forces, and that he has the AUTHORITY to commence PEACEFUL missions. King Bradley for example is INSURING that the cease fire stays that way. In the meantime under the new authority he upholds, he's inspecting other nations to insure that in case of enemy nations attacking fellow ULN members, that he shall be able to contemplate a decisive and effective strategy to swiftly end the conflict. As of right now, King is INSPECTING the New Edom country side, UNDERSTANDING its cultural, and more importantly, INSURING THE CEASE FIRE AND PROVIDING COMPLETE AND UTTER SAFETY FOR THE PEOPLE OF NEW EDOM. To aid in the fact that we haven't provided proper logistics between you two I'm immediately ordering him to acquaintance himself with you somewhere between Harbourtown and Glasstower (this may be chosen at your discrepancy). I'm sorry that if this has strained our foreign understandings with each other. I do hope our diplomatic relations shall improve as we live long and prosper together.

Franz Lovecraft,
Lord Marshal of the Fascist Senate and Vici Minerva


To: Lord Marshal Franz Lovecraft

I am glad to hear from you regarding the matter of your armoured units entering my country. I should tell you that I have informed the Republican Rebels of this and they have assured me that they will side with me should I find it necessary to repel an actual invasion. You are reassuring me that this is not the case. I am informed that your troops are currently in Brightwater, in Raith Immel. If they do not remain there I will consider your troops' presence an act of war and will appeal to the international community for help immediately. You may find these words harsh, but I assure you that I take the sovereignty of my country very seriously, as does William Touchstone.

There is a cease fire underway as of now. You have sent delegates to it. We have agreed to no inspections and no casual movements--we have agreed simply to make sure refugees are protected and the cease fire maintained.

I would like to suggest that we dispatch an executive transport plane to bring your Field Marshal King to the peace conference, where he will be welcome.

Finally, I would like to suggest this: our countries are not so different. If you help us achieve peace we could be more than allies due to a larger organization, but on the basis of brothers in arms. Give this some thought, if you would, and get back to me if you please. We are, after all, not merely politicians but warrriors. We can, I hope, talk frankly without a lot of doubletalk.

sincerely,
Mark Obed, King of New Edom


Now admittedly Field Marshal King Bradley has met with King Mark Obed to discuss terms, and has agreed so far to halt the advance of his troops in Brightwater, Raith Immel. But I have to emphasize that over 1,400 tanks, in addition to thousands of armoured personnel carriers, artillery, missile launchers and soldiers are sitting in a small town in northern Raith Immel. This is a province where there has not been a single instance of fighting, with a largely indigenous population who for the most part don’t even have electricity. While we are aware that the Vici Minervans are prepared to negotiate according to their most recent actions, this fact remains: we didn’t want them to enter our country with this force, they did it anyway, and are reluctant to leave or properly explain their intentions or present so much as a single concrete plan. When the King asked the Field Marshal if he would form a group of observers (a small lightly armed group) he said he preferred to remain with his tank corps.

This is how seriously we take our position in this: Estovakiva, our latest peacekeeping friends, have actually devoted part of their air force to help provide us with air cover while a joint force of Congressional and Monarchist troops are moving towards the Raith Immel Bara border to defend our country from invasion if need be.

Now of course we could be wrong. It could still be a misunderstanding. We invite the delegation from Vici Minerva to explain exactly what their government’s plan is and how it fits in with the rest of the peacekeeping effort here, and how they will reduce the force they have sent into our country without our permission to say, perhaps a force of no more than 4,000. Because right now they are actually contributing to the misery. They are drawing away forces we could be using to police West Bara in order to defend against their incomprehensible actions.” Philip’s grim stare however suggested that it was far from incomprehensible.
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Postby Ossurwald » Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:07 am

"I had been authorized by the Velstaad to propose the use of a division from the Ossurwald National Army in your peacekeeping mission. However, in light of this development, I'm certain that we in Ossurwald could beyond that call to defend New Edom," said Calleido.

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Postby Vici Minerva » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:43 pm

Now admittedly Field Marshal King Bradley has met with King Mark Obed to discuss terms, and has agreed so far to halt the advance of his troops in Brightwater, Raith Immel. But I have to emphasize that over 1,400 tanks, in addition to thousands of armoured personnel carriers, artillery, missile launchers and soldiers are sitting in a small town in northern Raith Immel. This is a province where there has not been a single instance of fighting, with a largely indigenous population who for the most part don’t even have electricity. While we are aware that the Vici Minervans are prepared to negotiate according to their most recent actions, this fact remains: we didn’t want them to enter our country with this force, they did it anyway, and are reluctant to leave or properly explain their intentions or present so much as a single concrete plan. When the King asked the Field Marshal if he would form a group of observers (a small lightly armed group) he said he preferred to remain with his tank corps.


Tarquin got up; he wasn't putting up with this bullshit. "We would first like to point out that our nation is having communication troubles with your own. We've been only been able to send in a handful of telegrams and we're terribly sorry that we can't send anymore; our best engineers are attempting to fix the glitch as we speak. Furthermore, as King Bradley, the supreme commander of all ULN Peace Keeping forces is heading the Panzer Korps, NOT Vici Minerva. Yes the Panzer Korps is technically a Vici Minervan unit, but King felt it was unnecessary to bring the entire Peace Keeping Force [28 Million] to New Edom. King has instead modestly sent a Panzer unit of four divisions; one korps to PROTECT New Edom from any aggressive nations. Let it be further noted that King is acting on behalf of the ULN, so Vici Minerva is not to blame though admittedly neither is the ULN as we've committed no crime. Again due to logistics and communication delays we unknowingly entered a region of little conflict; we apologize greatly, but King has suggested that doing so, he has secured a weak front. King politely refused in forming a group of observers because he was fearful that NEW EDOM was attempting to attack his PEACEKEEPING unit. And in fact, we have satellite surveillance of New Edomite and Estovakian forces moving towards the PEACEKEEPING unit. Setting up MINEFIELDS to both DELAY our troops movement in case of emergency in Harbourtown or Glasstower. Let it be further noted that if New Edom attacked the PEACEKEEPING FORCES then it would be recognized as an act of AGRESSION against the ULN AND IT'S FELLOW NATIONS!!!" Tarquin said boldly argued, rightfully defending his nation. The diplomats gasped with concern with the idea that New Edom had intentions of attacking the ULN. The room soon became a spicy cesspool of agitated diplomats...

This is how seriously we take our position in this: Estovakiva, our latest peacekeeping friends, have actually devoted part of their air force to help provide us with air cover while a joint force of Congressional and Monarchist troops are moving towards the Raith Immel Bara border to defend our country from invasion if need be.

Now of course we could be wrong. It could still be a misunderstanding. We invite the delegation from Vici Minerva to explain exactly what their government’s plan is and how it fits in with the rest of the peacekeeping effort here, and how they will reduce the force they have sent into our country without our permission to say, perhaps a force of no more than 4,000. Because right now they are actually contributing to the misery. They are drawing away forces we could be using to police West Bara in order to defend against their incomprehensible actions.” Philip’s grim stare however suggested that it was far from incomprehensible.


"King Bradley will not condense his peacekeeper size, for the Peace Keeping force is a suitable size in case of an attack by a foreign nation. We can though, if you'd like, send in 28 Million ULN Peace Keepers as well..." Tarquin sarcastically commented. "New Edom is contributing to its own misery as it continues to endlessly kill its fellow countrymen in this brutish civil war. It is by their own hand that they move THEIR own troops towards Raith Immel because they feel 'distrustful' of ULN PEACEKEEPERS. If they wish to stop making THEIR PEOPLE INCREASINGLY MISERABLE, they should withdraw their forces back, and remove all minefields and any other hostile traps INTEDED FOR THE ULN PEACE KEEPERS. This is all self-inflicted by New Edom, and I'm completely and utterly disgusted that the New Edomites wish to blame THEIR peoples' misery on THE PEOPLE OF VICI MINERVA AND THE ULN!!!”
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Postby Ossurwald » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:58 pm

OOC: Don't godmod, mate. We control our own diplomats. They respond to your comments how we decide.

"Mr. Tarquin," said Calleido, staring at the yelling man blankly, "this is the first time you've spoken throughout this conference. Now you berate our hosts and threaten and shout. You can scream "peacekeeping" as much as you want, but that doesn't make it true. Your nation entered a sovereign nation's territory without permission or acknowledgement by either of its government, without provocation. Most nations would recognize such an action as an act of war. One does not simply blame it on faulty communication with a government. If you do not receive affirmation for your peacekeeping force, it is not a green light to enter a nation, it is a reason to hold off.

"Furthermore, you entered a region that was untouched by civil strife. Your presence represents a serious threat to a stable section of the nation. What are the citizens of New Edom in Raith Immel to think when they see your armored corps rolling through but that there has been a complete breakdown of law and order?"

Calleido narrowed his eyes at the Minervan diplomat. "Sir, if you are to represent the nation of Vici Minerva, than you've represented your nation poorly."

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