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Osea 767
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Postby Osea 767 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:35 pm

OOC: YellowApple, I would not consider your nation's stance on abortion to be anti-abortionist. You still permit it, with certain regulations on when it is acceptable to do it. That is hardly unique in the ranks of those supportive of the right for abortions.

I would say that you would be correct in a fashion. Certainly, the ownership of shares would make you a lot closer to socialism than the average capitalist. Like with Zonolia, my nation would consider your system in the area of economics to be a favourable non-socialist model.

Quirina, I know. But I tend to use OOC usernames when addressing members. For a start, it avoids confusion in discussion. Rest assured that, when role-playing, I will use the name Viktorika.

Vassel, I'll get back to you when I've had the chance to take a look at your role-playing.
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Postby Comorostan » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:39 pm

Zonolia wrote:We have established Socialism, so apparently you now represent all members of this alliance? Why not a fair trial of enterence, let the working class decide.

The Federal Socialist Republic, the nation holding the position of General Secretary of the International, has expressed a refusal of your application and a rejection of the prospect of your nation's presence in the International in its present state. The Democratic People's Republic seconds these motions, voting with the authority of the Deputy Secretary of the organization. You have failed to gain the confidence or acceptance of the two principal entities within the Central Committee, and thus have failed the qualifications for membership.

Whether you wish to waste time vainly attempting to fool other true socialist states into supporting your attempt at infiltrating the ranks of the world socialist alliance, that is your own choice. But know that the unless the changes which have been outlined previously occur, Comorostan stands opposed to your acceptance into the International.

OOC: But do feel free to try, don't let my IC hostility discourage you.
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Falsea
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Postby Falsea » Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:58 am

Full nation name: The People's Republic of Falsea
Population: 125 million
Desired Membership type (Protected State/Full): Full
Your present relationship with alliance members: Unaffiliated; Neutral
National leader's title: chairman
Type of Political system: Single-party, communist State
Type of Economic System: Left-wing system
State ideology (if applicable): Marxism-Maoism

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Zonolia
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Postby Zonolia » Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:50 am

Comorostan wrote:
Zonolia wrote:We have established Socialism, so apparently you now represent all members of this alliance? Why not a fair trial of enterence, let the working class decide.

The Federal Socialist Republic, the nation holding the position of General Secretary of the International, has expressed a refusal of your application and a rejection of the prospect of your nation's presence in the International in its present state. The Democratic People's Republic seconds these motions, voting with the authority of the Deputy Secretary of the organization. You have failed to gain the confidence or acceptance of the two principal entities within the Central Committee, and thus have failed the qualifications for membership.

Whether you wish to waste time vainly attempting to fool other true socialist states into supporting your attempt at infiltrating the ranks of the world socialist alliance, that is your own choice. But know that the unless the changes which have been outlined previously occur, Comorostan stands opposed to your acceptance into the International.

OOC: But do feel free to try, don't let my IC hostility discourage you.

We still see this as totalitarianism, you do not represent those workers, you represent the idea of the alliance but not them as people.
OOC: Yea yea yea, haha, I know,...I was planning on seeing is later this week or so I can TG the other members to make a case trial for entry and what not, all in good fun!
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Quirina
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Postby Quirina » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:37 am

How do this alliance accept members, by political ideology or by economic ideology of a nation? It seems that every kind of socialist is in this alliance and indeed makes a confusing representation and delegations. Please clear things to me. As I can see, there is no current RP, only but political ideas being debated by one another, which makes this alliance more fruitful. I'm happy that this alliance grows and me being a part of it.
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Comorostan
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Postby Comorostan » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:40 pm

OOC: The main criteria as listed in the OP is popular control of the forces of production, either directly or through the state. Social liberalism is also a must but is second to proper economic socialism. Comorostan ICly also tends to oppose states who it sees as too liberal and likely to criticize our Stalinist/Maoist system
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Osea 767
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Postby Osea 767 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:55 pm

OOC: I'm happy with Comorostan's description of our requirements, so I see no reason to provide another. Of course, my own nation's relatively more liberal views should be taken into consideration.

Falsea, at the moment, I feel you are not ready for full membership. Given that one of your recent posts include the use of a "Tesla Orb", while you claim to be MT, this is odd, but you are already producing better posts than I see from a lot of RPers these days. If you are interested, we can accept you as a protected state. With that, we will agree to protect you while you develop your skills, something we would also be willing to help you with via RPing with you and giving you advice.
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Postby Osea 767 » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:11 pm

OOC: I've seen it. While I have another thread to tend to, I'll put up a post soon enough.
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Postby Democratic Koyro » Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:21 pm

OOC: Hey, just making it known that im still here.

Sorry for inactivity in the group recently.
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Comorostan
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Postby Comorostan » Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:49 am

Wewtlandem wrote:OOC: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=186190

Anyone wanna help me with this?

This fraud of an alliance appears to demonstrate the usual low level of coordination and agreement found in such reactionary organizations. We see here the critical failure of the capitalist method; by encouraging competition and the constant drive to succeed at the expense of others, they hamstring the very effort to destroy us. Given time, and perhaps the correct minor stimuli from the International, this ramshackle pact will fall like all the rest.
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Post War America
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Postby Post War America » Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:13 am

[OOC]Sorry if I've been inactive recently, I went through the hellish purgatory of a semester ending. Could someone please be so kind as to show me the link to this central committee meeting Yaroslavl told me about.
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Postby Quirina » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:18 pm

Let ACA alone. Its Leadership is darn weak, so weak we could only blow her down easily. Let it be. But once, once they transgress us, the Workers' International, will have to make a way to teach them a red lesson, if you know what I mean. 8)
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Postby Osea 767 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:43 pm

Yet there will be no harm in our propagandists moving into action.

PWA, I have now sent a link to you and to the other Central Committee members. I look forward to seeing you there.

Also, I wish to notify members of this rp. It may be possible that we can involve ourselves in in some manner, though we will need to ask the RPer about that. If not, I still feel that we should contact Bulgislavia. This is a good RPer and developing relations with him would be a real gain for us.
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Postby Post War America » Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:10 am

Osea 767 wrote:Yet there will be no harm in our propagandists moving into action.

PWA, I have now sent a link to you and to the other Central Committee members. I look forward to seeing you there.

Also, I wish to notify members of this rp. It may be possible that we can involve ourselves in in some manner, though we will need to ask the RPer about that. If not, I still feel that we should contact Bulgislavia. This is a good RPer and developing relations with him would be a real gain for us.


Back socialist revolutionaries anyone?
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Postby Radictistan » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:35 pm

Radictistan could become a source of smuggled arms or foreign volunteers. Could you summarize what's happened so far? I'm finding the plot a little hard to follow.

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Postby Osea 767 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:12 pm

Naturally, we will be supporting the Great Peoples Enlightenment Revolution. I've sent a message to Bulgislavia. We will soon know what role we might play in this.

A quick summary? Certain figures within Bulgislavia have used instability in the country to institute a major program of change called the Great Peoples Enlightenment Revolution. As they are doing this, things are continuing to destabilize and their program is facing some resistance by reactionaries. That is the best summary I can give.
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Postby Osea 767 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:20 am

OOC: Bulgislavia has been kind enough tp provide us with the following summary. He has also said that participation is free to anyone who wants to involve themself. So, let's get moving comrades.

Bulgislavia has largely gone through an economic revolution and the country now has an industrial and economic system directly controlled by the workers. This process has been going on for the last few months with Bulgislavia's active trade unions conducting workplace reforms and siezures leading to the creation of Workers and Revolutionary councils and most work places turning into self managing collectives and co-operatives of workers. This has upset some in Bulgislavia but the change was largely welcome and supported as the beginning of a workers revolution. the Popular Assemblies is seen as ushering in a peoples Democracy and brining political Revolution to the Revolutionary Republic from the bottom up.

The Revolutionary Republic was officially formed in January 10th 2012 after the Peoples Prosperity Party (Reformed communist party) won the election and formed a coalition of leftist parties known as the Popular Front in November of last year. Around about this time student demonstrations against political corruption and a lack of faith in the governing institutions of the country were coming to the surface. The Popular Front Government promoted the unrest as "A great Awakening" and encouraged the people to stand up for their beliefs and hold the government to account and so the "Great Peoples Enlightenment Revolution" was born

Bulgislavia has been gripped by strikes and demonstrations ever since however the government promotes these "Peoples Movements" as a sign that the people are dedicated to "The Construction of a true peoples democracy" the highest form of democracy possible

The Leading institution of the Revolutionary Republic is the Grand National Peoples Congress (It use to be the state council) however people quickly became angry that the GNPC only met four times a year and its only powers was to approve or vote on legislation decided upon by the State Council. This led to a massive wave of demonstrations with demands to allow the GNPC to function like a real parliament and allow the people to summon the congress whenever they please. This led to more powers being granted to the GNPC and away from the State Council.

This reform and the demonstrations around it took place in April and was seen as "A great Revolution and progression of the Great Peoples Enlightenment Revolution" other demands included more powers and autonomy being granted to the 10 republics that made up Bulgislavia. Elections were scheduled where the people of each republic would elect its own Peoples Congress (Which would ofcourse be subservient of the Grand National Peoples Congress)

However extremists began to highjack the Arasopol elections and election violence then began to take place as well as extrajudicial killings by extremists on both sides. A Fascist Awaken Party paraded the idea that the Great Peoples Enlightenment Revolution was a communist plot to destroy Bulgislavia and promoted Patriotic and nationalist sentiment while Supporters of the Popular Front Government argued to the continued construction of a true Peoples Democracy

Street brawls escalated until party HQ's were set in fire and killings started happening. The Central Government was largely powerless and was starting to weaken at this point. the Media were starting to become more and more critical of the government, especially in Arasopol. This then led to a take over of Arasopol by senior civil servants wishing to maintain stability and order, led by Anthony Kocencu. The Arasopol Administration then announced it would no longer participation in the Revolutionary Republic until the Popular Front Government admits responsibility for the disorder in Arasopol and step down and allow for fresh elections

The State Council by this stage was dissolved and its powers transferred to the Grand National Peoples Congress, however it was still seen as weak as more powers were transferred to the republic's that make up Bulgislavia. The National Front opposition (right wing and centrist parties in opposition) were also participating in demonstrations to undermine the Popular Front Government and frequently walked out of GNPC proceedings

The Popular Assemblies were starting to spring up naturally copying the model of the Revolutionary and Workers Councils with revocable delegates. Radu Suslov seen as the nations paramound leader and ideological figurehead then officially made these Popular Assemblies as legal functions of the Revolutionary Republic and was seen as the standard building block for the Revolutionary Republic.

Other Reforms were voted upon in the Grand National Peoples Congress. By this stage the crisis is starting to escalate and Opposition leader Andre Bratianu called for full participation by the National Front Opposition which brought the National Front back into the Grand National Peoples Congress.

So at the moment Bulgislavia is a hybrid of Communist Democracy, Direct Democracy is being pioneered with the Popular Assemblies and the aim is to amplify this model from the local up to the national level as was seen with the creation of the Bulgislavian Confederation of Labour

There are also clashes between the loyal Revolutionary Peoples Army and the Arasopol Peoples Army

Anyway thats a basic summary, im probably missing something but those are the main points.
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Radictistan
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Postby Radictistan » Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:17 pm

So basically Arasopol has been taken over by rightist elements and is now in rebellion against the central government?

With that in mind I can think of three possibly plotlines for Radictistani persons or organization:
    Radictistani mercenaries are hired by the Arasopol government to fight in the civil war
    Radictistani leftist organizations send over a unit of foreign volunteers to fight for the central government
    Radictistani arms dealers promiscuously sell arms to both sides

It remains to be seen exactly how much time I'll be able to dedicate to the RP. Dad's starting to get on my case about getting off my ass and getting a job.

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Bulgislavia
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Postby Bulgislavia » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:36 pm

Radictistan wrote:So basically Arasopol has been taken over by rightist elements and is now in rebellion against the central government?

With that in mind I can think of three possibly plotlines for Radictistani persons or organization:
    Radictistani mercenaries are hired by the Arasopol government to fight in the civil war
    Radictistani leftist organizations send over a unit of foreign volunteers to fight for the central government
    Radictistani arms dealers promiscuously sell arms to both sides

It remains to be seen exactly how much time I'll be able to dedicate to the RP. Dad's starting to get on my case about getting off my ass and getting a job.


Hey hows it goingt :)

Anthony Kocencu the separatist leader of Arasopol is convinced that the central government will destroy Bulgislavia if they remain in power and he in no way will surrender Arasopol without a fight. Hiring Mercenaries would be an option open to the Arasopol administration if the war heats up

The Central government as this point does not want any form of foreign intervention however it is open to the idea of allowing "Comrade Volunteer's" to help prop up and restore the revolution in Arasopol

both the Arasopol Peoples Army and the Revolutionary Peoples Army are very ill equiped with out dated weaponry, the military is extremely underfunded in Bulgislavia so greater investment in the military is on the cards so the Revolutionary Republic can cope with this crisis, both sides would probably be open to buying arms
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Radictistan
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Postby Radictistan » Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:07 am

That's great to here. There are plenty of guys in Radictistan who would be happy to take advantage of the country's almost nonexistent export regulations to sell arms to one or both sides.

So how should I enter the RP?

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Quirina
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Postby Quirina » Sat Jun 30, 2012 10:15 am

I am still thinking to enter that RP by means of my own ways, since Viktorika loves handling wars, but in RL, I have a tight schedule, so I might have problems in giving immediate response.
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Osea 767
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Postby Osea 767 » Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:29 pm

Given that the central government is open to volunteers, what about the setting up of International Brigades by our organisation? Anyone up for that?
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Radictistan
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Postby Radictistan » Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:22 pm

That sounds like fun, but I worry about whether I'll be able to keep up with a fast-moving RP.

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Bulgislavia
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Postby Bulgislavia » Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:53 pm

The Popular Front government will have to run this all past the Grand National Peoples Congress.
The Arm's imports will go through as "Millitary Upgrade Act" which will approve a set of arms imports and military contracts to upgrade the army

A new "Foriegn Assistance Act" will allow the presence of international brigades (If there is resistance to this act, it can be modified to make all international volunteer's honarary Bulgislavian citizens and will recieve Bulgislavian citizenship for "fighting for Bulgislavia"

They may also need to be officially constripted into the Revolutionary Peoples Army as a special "International brigade" So it will be subject to the rules and laws of the Bulgislavian nation and of the military.

The Media will clearly explain why these actions are being taken (In the new era of Bulgislavian politics it is important all descisions are in the Public domain and that public documents are freely available to the public and are transparent)

We also ask that the organization help enforce an arms ban against the Separatists led by Athony Kocencu

The Central government can continue to post updates for organization by sharing information the public information
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