A Lost Age [PT/FanT World] (Open)

[Redemption-America]

http://tinypic.com/r/157se0/5
My claim.

Literally just drew a map with that. Hah.

[Atelia]

http://tinypic.com/r/157se0/5
My claim.

Literally just drew a map with that. Hah.

The same claim? What do ya know.

[SquareDisc City]

Well the final word will be with the OPs, but I'm just seeing this as expressions of interest at the moment anyway.

[IshCong]

I can't tell if you're asking for those islands off the coast?
I...sorta had my eye on those. ~,~

Also, I have a feeling a claim size limit will be needed. Numer's especially strikes me as rather large, given the relative size of this map to the old LA map.

How do we want to do the claims then:

Pick 10-20 small provinces like before? It'll give a good degree of freedom and make it fairly easy to handle bits of land changing hands. But it's more work to start with making all the borders.
Pick fewer larger provinces, say 2 or 3 each? Or even, in the extreme case, just pick pre-drawn realms. Less work for me now, and may help ensure we border each other sensibly. But more work involved should some land need to change hands from an RP.
Just draw freehand? Means I don't have to draw any borders but my own, but I'll have to work out how to bring what others put into the master map. It might be harder to ensure things stay well-organised though and nobody makes an overlarge claim.

Size of claim matters too. If the goal is to have a setting that's more compact than old Lost Age, then Numer and Armarzia have gone too large I reckon. It might help to get an idea of how many participants we're going to have.

Well you have to remember the Numerians aren't united. That territory is divided between 5 city-states often at war with each other. I don't plan on uniting them either. I just wanted to make sure each city-state has enough land to rival the others.

It's not solely a power-balancing issue. It's also a 'room for more people' issue, trying to keep things compact to facilitate interaction, and trying not to assign some players far less land than others.

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I can't tell if you're asking for those islands off the coast?
I...sorta had my eye on those. ~,~

The two small ones, yes the large one to the East, no...I just needed an area that can be easily be split into with some sorta natural obstacle like water.

If you really can't find an appropriate substitute I can edit my hopeful claim.

This shows my area of interest after zooming in 6x. Black is the stuff I'm primarily interested in, red is secondary depending on what I do with the black. I'm thinking even just the black in its entirety is a bit large, so I probably won't take all of it, but it'd be nice to clear out any potential conflicts early before you and I get too far ahead of ourselves.

[Redemption-America]

Literally just drew a map with that. Hah.

The same claim? What do ya know.

I don't mind moving, though. It's not a huge deal.

Before anyone else claims it, I'll take the spot to the south of Ish'Cong and east of New Armarzia.

[New Armarzia]

This shows my area of interest after zooming in 6x. Black is the stuff I'm primarily interested in, red is secondary depending on what I do with the black. I'm thinking even just the black in its entirety is a bit large, so I probably won't take all of it, but it'd be nice to clear out any potential conflicts early before you and I get too far ahead of ourselves.

Alright, would you be fine if I can have the two red islands to the north and let you have the rest of the islands, though for RP purposes there could be slight contention between our two nations over the ownership of the two tiny islands West of the larger islands (though it will be administered and inhabited by your people).

[Numer]

Well you have to remember the Numerians aren't united. That territory is divided between 5 city-states often at war with each other. I don't plan on uniting them either. I just wanted to make sure each city-state has enough land to rival the others.

It's not solely a power-balancing issue. It's also a 'room for more people' issue, trying to keep things compact to facilitate interaction, and trying not to assign some players far less land than others.

Ah, I see. Well, I guess it all depends on how many people we end up having. I'll downsize if need be.

[IshCong]

This shows my area of interest after zooming in 6x. Black is the stuff I'm primarily interested in, red is secondary depending on what I do with the black. I'm thinking even just the black in its entirety is a bit large, so I probably won't take all of it, but it'd be nice to clear out any potential conflicts early before you and I get too far ahead of ourselves.

Alright, would you be fine if I can have the two red islands to the north and let you have the rest of the islands, though for RP purposes there could be slight contention between our two nations over the ownership of the two tiny islands West of the larger islands (though it will be administered and inhabited by your people).

Yeah, I'd probably be fine with that.

[New Armarzia]

Yeah, I'd probably be fine with that.

If you can edit the map claims that would be awesome as I am not even good at making a claim in Microsoft Paint

[Yalos]

Can land locked nations be slightly larger, because of the necessity of maintaining enough borders as to not get surrounded by potential NPC states.

EDIT:And can we just draw rivers in as we see fit?

[Numer]

Can land locked nations be slightly larger, because of the necessity of maintaining enough borders as to not get surrounded by potential NPC states.

EDIT:And can we just draw rivers in as we see fit?

That seems fair. And yeah I remember someone said earlier that you can construct your own geography.

[SquareDisc City]

I'll put in the major rivers (and mountains) in due course, but yeah, nothing stopping you adding smaller ones.

The simple solution for a landlocked realm is to make sure you border player realms when you make the formal claim!

[IshCong]

Yeah, I'd probably be fine with that.

If you can edit the map claims that would be awesome as I am not even good at making a claim in Microsoft Paint

Well, I'm expecting limits on claim size or something along those lines from the admins, which will determine how I draw my own borders, at the least. If the limits are smaller, then I might not take the entirety of that black region. If they're larger or nonexistent, then I might take more of that red to the SE, as a thought. Or figure something else out.
So I'm not sure how to draw them atm.

[Yalos]

No I get that, but I meant, the bigger the nation, more Player Realms you can border, thus elminating the this risk of their all going inactive. For landlocked realms, borders are of far greater importance.

[New Armarzia]

Well, I'm expecting limits on claim size or something along those lines from the admins, which will determine how I draw my own borders, at the least. If the limits are smaller, then I might not take the entirety of that black region. If they're larger or nonexistent, then I might take more of that red to the SE, as a thought. Or figure something else out.
So I'm not sure how to draw them atm.

Alright, by the way, where did you find the 6x map you used...just wandering for future reference to make a clear map of my individual nation way down the road.

[SquareDisc City]

I did the zoom-in for IshCong when he mentioned he was interested in the islands, to show the details a bit better. The final map is going to be at a higher resolution than these previews anyway.

[Ea90]

If I may make a suggestion, I think it would be a good idea if everyone uses 1 pixel lines at all times and keep the map as a .png to retain quality.

[New Armarzia]

I did the zoom-in for IshCong when he mentioned he was interested in the islands, to show the details a bit better. The final map is going to be at a higher resolution than these previews anyway.

Alright, that is great to know...the last map for Lost Age was a little difficult for me to make my own map for my nation though that probably has to do more with my map-making skills.

[Redemption-America]

http://imgur.com/wXZS7ky

Mine so far. These are initial.

Should be noted that we might all (other than Atelia) have to downscale.

[New Armarzia]

http://imgur.com/wXZS7ky

Mine so far. These are initial.

Should be noted that we might all (other than Atelia) have to downscale.

Well how many nations do we plan on having? Just eyeballing the map and assuming they all are roughly the same size as Numer I would venture to say we will be able to fit at the very least 15 nations.

[SquareDisc City]

Well I was envisioning space for 15-20, but not using quite the whole map, way out west will be left vacant.

Maybe it's best if I just split things up into provinces, and then we can say "select no more than x" for the claims.

[The Akasha Colony]

http://imgur.com/wXZS7ky

Mine so far. These are initial.

Should be noted that we might all (other than Atelia) have to downscale.

Well how many nations do we plan on having? Just eyeballing the map and assuming they all are roughly the same size as Numer I would venture to say we will be able to fit at the very least 15 nations.

Presumably, room left for NPCs would be desirable. As well as future players without having to immediately start replacing existing players.

[Caecuser]

Well I was envisioning space for 15-20, but not using quite the whole map, way out west will be left vacant.

Maybe it's best if I just split things up into provinces, and then we can say "select no more than x" for the claims.

Is it possible to make expansions / additions to the map you have right now?

[SquareDisc City]

Is it possible to make expansions / additions to the map you have right now?

In terms of new land? Possible, yes. High priority, no.

[New Armarzia]

Well I was envisioning space for 15-20, but not using quite the whole map, way out west will be left vacant.

Maybe it's best if I just split things up into provinces, and then we can say "select no more than x" for the claims.

I would rather not do the province system again as I would prefer to map out my own borders, but that is personal preference. I think if the OPs just determined a rough size limit (with coastal nations being smaller than landlocked nations due to access of resources ands trade) and approve map claims it would work fine.

Is it possible to make expansions / additions to the map you have right now?

In terms of new land? Possible, yes. High priority, no.

I think that would be cool, not something immediate, but way down the road something could be added off the Eastern coast such as island chains or the like.