Internal and International Incidents [OOC • OPEN]

[European Federal Union]

I’m calling out the bluff. Azmeny will continue to fly airliners over the Persian Gulf (where I imagine your ships would be, given that’s where Azmeny has it’s coast) and we shall start with a flypast of five of our Il-96 airliners in formation, flying low at 6000ft for added visibility.

Dew it. Once you make a post, I'll make one where Janpian carrier aircrafts would escort them on their side from the gulf.

Janpia and Azmeny teaming up wasnt on my 2024 II Bingo card..........

[Socialist Gestachia]

I’m calling out the bluff. Azmeny will continue to fly airliners over the Persian Gulf (where I imagine your ships would be, given that’s where Azmeny has it’s coast) and we shall start with a flypast of five of our Il-96 airliners in formation, flying low at 6000ft for added visibility.

If that happens an Azmeny fighter will be accidentally shot down after a day.

[Janpia]

I’m calling out the bluff. Azmeny will continue to fly airliners over the Persian Gulf (where I imagine your ships would be, given that’s where Azmeny has it’s coast) and we shall start with a flypast of five of our Il-96 airliners in formation, flying low at 6000ft for added visibility.

If that happens an Azmeny fighter will be accidentally shot down after a day.

Due reminder that Janpia has naval presence in the Persian Gulf. And you already entering it puts you under the crosshairs in the first place, making it easy to determine who fired instead

Also Azmeny, I'll be straight. Flying low is a not-so-good idea in this situation

[European Federal Union]

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In such a case Id also throw my support to Azmen (specifically through the EFU Basrah naval base)

[Janpia]

I’m calling out the bluff. Azmeny will continue to fly airliners over the Persian Gulf (where I imagine your ships would be, given that’s where Azmeny has it’s coast) and we shall start with a flypast of five of our Il-96 airliners in formation, flying low at 6000ft for added visibility.

If that happens an Azmeny fighter will be accidentally shot down after a day.

Relevant information I havent specifically removed them yet. And its planned to make it permanent through the KTO Pandora Base

[Socialist Gestachia]

If that happens an Azmeny fighter will be accidentally shot down after a day.

Due reminder that Janpia has naval presence in the Persian Gulf. And you already entering it puts you under the crosshairs in the first place, making it easy to determine who fired instead

Also Azmeny, I'll be straight. Flying low is a not-so-good idea in this situation

Well flying commercial airliners through a LIVE FIRE AA exercise that had prior formal notifications is not only highly irresponsible but also proactive (even if the AA exercise is in itself proactive.)

[Janpia]

Due reminder that Janpia has naval presence in the Persian Gulf. And you already entering it puts you under the crosshairs in the first place, making it easy to determine who fired instead

Also Azmeny, I'll be straight. Flying low is a not-so-good idea in this situation

Well flying commercial airliners through a LIFE FIRE AA exercise that had prior formal notifications is not only highly irresponsible but also proactive (even if the AA exercise is in itself proactive.)

To put the matter differently, warships in principle enjoy freedom to carry out their military
missions under the regime of the high seas subject to three basic obligations: (1) the duty to refrain
from the unlawful threat or use of force; (2) the duty to have" due regard" to the rights of others
to use the sea; and (3) the duty to observe applicable obligations under other treaties or rules of
international law.

-International Law and Naval and Air Operations at Sea. Based on 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea,


lol

[The Way Sun Cooperation]

I'm just going to grab some popcorn...
Janpia Azmeny team up was not what I expected.

[Janpia]

Well flying commercial airliners through a LIFE FIRE AA exercise that had prior formal notifications is not only highly irresponsible but also proactive (even if the AA exercise is in itself proactive.)

To put the matter differently, warships in principle enjoy freedom to carry out their military
missions under the regime of the high seas subject to three basic obligations: (1) the duty to refrain
from the unlawful threat or use of force; (2) the duty to have" due regard" to the rights of others
to use the sea; and (3) the duty to observe applicable obligations under other treaties or rules of
international law.

-International Law and Naval and Air Operations at Sea. Based on 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea,


lol

Im just saying, if you fire on any aircrafts, matter of priority is defending that. Janpia will only consider a shoot out if their own aircraft was hit. Which given their proximities with what they are escorting, would be plausible.

[Independent Republic of Boldonia]

Remember folks, this all started because one guy went "me No LiKE cAPItAliSm" and told his followers to randomly shoot at every dot in the sky they see

Bet the liberals he coerced into helping him are regretting their decision

[Azmeny]

Due reminder that Janpia has naval presence in the Persian Gulf. And you already entering it puts you under the crosshairs in the first place, making it easy to determine who fired instead

Also Azmeny, I'll be straight. Flying low is a not-so-good idea in this situation

Well flying commercial airliners through a LIVE FIRE AA exercise that had prior formal notifications is not only highly irresponsible but also proactive (even if the AA exercise is in itself proactive.)

I’ll skip the low pass, but quite frankly you’d have no right to shoot down my airliner. International law doesn’t work that way.

Besides, that would basically be using your military to harass and threaten Azmeny, giving me a legit casus Belli. Not that I would go to war (unless you touch my airliners) but it’s worth considering.

[Azmeny]

Remember folks, this all started because one guy went "me No LiKE cAPItAliSm" and told his followers to randomly shoot at every dot in the sky they see

Bet the liberals he coerced into helping him are regretting their decision

It would be mad if one socialist shooting down an airliner causes the deaths of hundreds of socialist citizens of Azmeny.

[Arakhkhar]

I believe I'm going to send some assets to the AO. SICly, naturally, considering all of the below vessels are submarines.
The Janpians will receive information ahead of time that we are operating in the area.

Cobernstratitgrüp-Persii (Strategic Military Grouping - Persia)
Special Operations Composition 13
VzR.1/24 DRAK-III Mod.III UM-401
Personnel:
68 Enlisted
15 Officers
Assault Complement:
7 Shock Troopers, Amphibious
Loadout:
20x VK-9 Advanced-Capability Heavyweight Homing Torpedoes
16x VIV-19 “Kraken” Homing Hunter-Killer Mines
16x V-24N Naval Loitering Munitions
16x ShV-260 Supersonic Anti-Ship Missiles
4x ShVK-403 Active-Radar Homing Anti-Air Missiles
4x H-24N Cold-Launched Reconnaissance Drones

VzR.1/24 DRAK-III Mod.III UM-428
Personnel:
68 Enlisted
15 Officers
Assault Complement:
7 Shock Troopers, Amphibious
Loadout:
20x VK-9 Advanced-Capability Heavyweight Homing Torpedoes
16x VIV-19 “Kraken” Homing Hunter-Killer Mines
16x V-24N Naval Loitering Munitions
16x ShV-260 Supersonic Anti-Ship Missiles
4x ShVK-403 Active-Radar Homing Anti-Air Missiles
4x H-24N Cold-Launched Reconnaissance Drones

VgI.4/92 Mod.V “Accordant Corruption” UMI-082
Personnel:
46 Enlisted
12 Officers
Loadout:
4x VK-9 Advanced-Capability Heavyweight Homing Torpedoes
16x VIV-19 “Kraken” Homing Hunter-Killer Mines, Intelligence Variant (Unarmed - passively collects information and monitors)
8x H-24N Cold-Launched Reconnaissance Drones

[Independent Republic of Boldonia]

Remember folks, this all started because one guy went "me No LiKE cAPItAliSm" and told his followers to randomly shoot at every dot in the sky they see

Bet the liberals he coerced into helping him are regretting their decision

It would be mad if one socialist shooting down an airliner causes the deaths of hundreds of socialist citizens of Azmeny.

Azmeny is kind of liberal though, maybe some rouge extremist takes offense to that.

Although I should mention, the Socialist Federation is not a fully organized organization, pretty much de facto just a coalition of unorganized militas. Do not believe that Cardoso's statement represents the beliefs of all of the Socialist Federation.

[Janpia]

I believe I'm going to send some assets to the AO. SICly, naturally, considering all of the below vessels are submarines.
The Janpians will receive information ahead of time that we are operating in the area.

Cobernstratitgrüp-Persii (Strategic Military Grouping - Persia)
Special Operations Composition 13
VzR.1/24 DRAK-III Mod.III UM-401
Personnel:
68 Enlisted
15 Officers
Assault Complement:
7 Shock Troopers, Amphibious
Loadout:
20x VK-9 Advanced-Capability Heavyweight Homing Torpedoes
16x VIV-19 “Kraken” Homing Hunter-Killer Mines
16x V-24N Naval Loitering Munitions
16x ShV-260 Supersonic Anti-Ship Missiles
4x ShVK-403 Active-Radar Homing Anti-Air Missiles
4x H-24N Cold-Launched Reconnaissance Drones

VzR.1/24 DRAK-III Mod.III UM-428
Personnel:
68 Enlisted
15 Officers
Assault Complement:
7 Shock Troopers, Amphibious
Loadout:
20x VK-9 Advanced-Capability Heavyweight Homing Torpedoes
16x VIV-19 “Kraken” Homing Hunter-Killer Mines
16x V-24N Naval Loitering Munitions
16x ShV-260 Supersonic Anti-Ship Missiles
4x ShVK-403 Active-Radar Homing Anti-Air Missiles
4x H-24N Cold-Launched Reconnaissance Drones

VgI.4/92 Mod.V “Accordant Corruption” UMI-082
Personnel:
46 Enlisted
12 Officers
Loadout:
4x VK-9 Advanced-Capability Heavyweight Homing Torpedoes
16x VIV-19 “Kraken” Homing Hunter-Killer Mines, Intelligence Variant (Unarmed - passively collects information and monitors)
8x H-24N Cold-Launched Reconnaissance Drones

It would be mad if one socialist shooting down an airliner causes the deaths of hundreds of socialist citizens of Azmeny.

Azmeny is kind of liberal though, maybe some rouge extremist takes offense to that.

Although I should mention, the Socialist Federation is not a fully organized organization, pretty much de facto just a coalition of unorganized militas. Do not believe that Cardoso's statement represents the beliefs of all of the Socialist Federation.

Pretty sure I also mentioned before that Janpia considers Azmeny as a liberal state disguising as a communist one. But ye.

[Socialist Gestachia]

Well flying commercial airliners through a LIFE FIRE AA exercise that had prior formal notifications is not only highly irresponsible but also proactive (even if the AA exercise is in itself proactive.)

To put the matter differently, warships in principle enjoy freedom to carry out their military
missions under the regime of the high seas subject to three basic obligations: (1) the duty to refrain
from the unlawful threat or use of force; (2) the duty to have" due regard" to the rights of others
to use the sea; and (3) the duty to observe applicable obligations under other treaties or rules of
international law.

-International Law and Naval and Air Operations at Sea. Based on 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea,


lol

I never said it was illegal.

Also

Any convention, treaty, or customary international law that the People's Republic of Socialist Gestachia is not a member, signatory, or has not ratified, or conflicts with the Constitution, shall be null, void, and unenforceable against the P.R.S.G. and its citizens.

And Socialist Gestachia is not a member of the UN/WA so UN/WACLOS is meaningless.

[Janpia]

-International Law and Naval and Air Operations at Sea. Based on 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea,


lol

I never said it was illegal.

Also

Any convention, treaty, or customary international law that the People's Republic of Socialist Gestachia is not a member, signatory, or has not ratified, or conflicts with the Constitution, shall be null, void, and unenforceable against the P.R.S.G. and its citizens.

And Socialist Gestachia is not a member of the UN/WA so UN/WACLOS is meaningless.

Hence why we are gonna do it anyway to enforce it. And Im telling you tho, if you actually mistep, even if its very small, the result is always the same in the military: It is unforgiving. So if you really want to fight a war, Id suggest you understand your navy's situation first.

[Janpia]

I never said it was illegal.

AlsoAnd Socialist Gestachia is not a member of the UN/WA so UN/WACLOS is meaningless.

Hence why we are gonna do it anyway to enforce it. And Im telling you tho, if you actually mistep, even if its very small, the result is always the same in the military: It is unforgiving. So if you really want to fight a war, Id suggest you understand your navy's situation first.

Also since you are not in UNCLOS, this suggest that any nations can also just board Gestaschian flag civilian ships or mine resources at coasts as well.

[Socialist Gestachia]

I never said it was illegal.

AlsoAnd Socialist Gestachia is not a member of the UN/WA so UN/WACLOS is meaningless.

Hence why we are gonna do it anyway to enforce it. And Im telling you tho, if you actually mistep, even if its very small, the result is always the same in the military: It is unforgiving. So if you really want to fight a war, Id suggest you understand your navy's situation first.

I am not planning to fight a war. Ultimately it would be Azmeny's choice to go war, after all it will be their fighter that gets shot down. I don't think he wants to face a few 500 Mt warheads over that.

Also what you're doing is illegal in Gestachia's view, trying to enforce an illegal law against Gestachia.

[Janpia]

Hence why we are gonna do it anyway to enforce it. And Im telling you tho, if you actually mistep, even if its very small, the result is always the same in the military: It is unforgiving. So if you really want to fight a war, Id suggest you understand your navy's situation first.

I am not planning to fight a war. Ultimately it would be Azmeny's choice to go war, after all it will be their fighter that gets shot down. I don't think he wants to face a few 500 Mt warheads over that.

Also what you're doing is illegal in Gestachia's view, trying to enforce an illegal law against Gestachia.

It is not their ball considering you are near their shores and they have aircrafts flying overhead. Ultimately it is YOUR call to whether shoot them or not.
Also just saying, 500mt can be apprehended by JURN...

EDIT: Also adding from your recent edits, what you are also doing is also illegal.

[Janpia]

I am not planning to fight a war. Ultimately it would be Azmeny's choice to go war, after all it will be their fighter that gets shot down. I don't think he wants to face a few 500 Mt warheads over that.

Also what you're doing is illegal in Gestachia's view, trying to enforce an illegal law against Gestachia.

It is not their ball considering you are near their shores and they have aircrafts flying overhead. Ultimately it is YOUR call to whether shoot them or not.
Also just saying, 500mt can be apprehended by JURN...

EDIT: Also adding from your recent edits, what you are also doing is also illegal.

If anything, if its still not obvious, you would lose this one with a quick decisive strike. Even with the MAD and all that. Im trying to express this for the last minutes to not be as threatening as possible, but theres no words to say it

[Socialist Gestachia]

Also since you are not in UNCLOS, this suggest that any nations can also just board Gestaschian flag civilian ships or mine resources at coasts as well.

That's why nearly all Gestachian merchant ships are armed. If anyone tries to mine resources in Gestachian waters and be detected they will have a fun time dealing with the MFMSIIS (those Blue Democracy protesters learned the hard way.)

I am not planning to fight a war. Ultimately it would be Azmeny's choice to go war, after all it will be their fighter that gets shot down. I don't think he wants to face a few 500 Mt warheads over that.

Also what you're doing is illegal in Gestachia's view, trying to enforce an illegal law against Gestachia.

It is not their ball considering you are near their shores and they have aircrafts flying overhead. Ultimately it is YOUR call to whether shoot them or not.
Also just saying, 500mt can be apprehended by JURN...

EDIT: Also adding from your recent edits, what you are also doing is also illegal.

What? the JURN has some SDI thing? Lasers? Hypersonic missiles? Regardless there are parts of Azmeny that the JURN cannot go that MIRVs and hypersonic FOBS.
The GRNF is not going to deliberately shoot down anything, however if Azmeny tries to fly fighters there will be an accidental shootdown of a Azmen fighter.

It is only illegal if you consider it to be. Yes it is almost certainly illegal under international law but Gestachia doesn't recognize most international law.

If anything, if its still not obvious, you would lose this one with a quick decisive strike. Even with the MAD and all that. Im trying to express this for the last minutes to not be as threatening as possible, but theres no words to say it

I am willing to loose a somewhat small AA fleet.

[Janpia]

Also since you are not in UNCLOS, this suggest that any nations can also just board Gestaschian flag civilian ships or mine resources at coasts as well.

That's why nearly all Gestachian merchant ships are armed. If anyone tries to mine resources in Gestachian waters and be detected they will have a fun time dealing with the MFMSIIS (those Blue Democracy protesters learned the hard way.)

It is not their ball considering you are near their shores and they have aircrafts flying overhead. Ultimately it is YOUR call to whether shoot them or not.
Also just saying, 500mt can be apprehended by JURN...

EDIT: Also adding from your recent edits, what you are also doing is also illegal.

What? the JURN has some SDI thing? Lasers? Hypersonic missiles? Regardless there are parts of Azmeny that the JURN cannot go that MIRVs and hypersonic FOBS.
The GRNF is not going to deliberately shoot down anything, however if Azmeny tries to fly fighters there will be an accidental shootdown of a Azmen fighter.

It is only illegal if you consider it to be. Yes it is almost certainly illegal under international law but Gestachia doesn't recognize most international law.

If anything, if its still not obvious, you would lose this one with a quick decisive strike. Even with the MAD and all that. Im trying to express this for the last minutes to not be as threatening as possible, but theres no words to say it

I am willing to loose a somewhat small AA fleet.

Read back my post. I said unforgivable. Which means ALL the ships you have presented will be destroyed. You expect to attack a nation and expect some of your ships surviving? Lol

Also you lack any knowledge at all about intercepting ICBM or IRBMs for that matter, and the answer is obviously simple as hell. But Im not gonna tell you yet. FOBS? Thats the most easiest one to take out lmfao. MIRVs? Same concept as the ICBM or the IRBM. If coming from your mainland, thats the matter for JURM as well. But still, a tandem between JURN and JURM.

[Janpia]

Daily reminder, Janpia is the only nation in II that has managed to nuke an actual player nation successfully. Just saying if you are gonna play around with nukes.

[Azmeny]

Jesus, my president said one thing about the shootdown of another country’s airliner, and the reaction is let’s start a major war (with nuclear elements).

That escalated fast…