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Postby Romanic Imperium » Wed May 15, 2024 7:20 am

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"Durian is considered a drug in the imperuim for some reason some old law but its just a very stinky fruit"


“Ah! I should have known! That durian! I got confused because in the colony of Dubai, they make this type of alcohol drink that contains traces of cannabis that they call Durian+ due to the flavour being that of durian. Don’t know why it isn’t banned.”

The rep then pulls out a bottle called ‘Durian+’ before taking a swig and offering it around. “This is the clean version.”


"Sounds.... pleasent"
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Postby The Daeva » Wed May 15, 2024 8:38 am

The Margrave sighs. “Let’s table this discussion. Anyways, sadly, there isn’t much important business to get to.”
Heya! Just your ordinary ruthless pragmatic monarchy. We may be the lesser evil, but we are fancy and polite while doing it!

“Daeva doesn’t join sides, we make them.” -Margrave Alabaster Kovacs, a sterling example of a Daevan diplomat.

Daeva’s theme: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bVhJgWHOC14

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Postby Lemueria » Wed May 15, 2024 8:45 am

The Daeva wrote:The Margrave sighs. “Let’s table this discussion. Anyways, sadly, there isn’t much important business to get to.”

"I mean, a son of the Lord-Emperor, prince Sham, died. Is that important? Oh and the rebels are polluting the Dyovo River which leads to Tanpolo, Dyhorria, which is the third largest city in Lemueria with 1.3 million citizens..." He said quite breathlessly.

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Postby The Daeva » Wed May 15, 2024 8:46 am

Lemueria wrote:
The Daeva wrote:The Margrave sighs. “Let’s table this discussion. Anyways, sadly, there isn’t much important business to get to.”

"I mean, a son of the Lord-Emperor, prince Sham, died. Is that important? Oh and the rebels are polluting the Dyovo River which leads to Tanpolo, Dyhorria, which is the third largest city in Lemueria with 1.3 million citizens..." He said quite breathlessly.


“… this seems like a massive intelligence and military failure. Do… do you have a plan to quash them?”
Heya! Just your ordinary ruthless pragmatic monarchy. We may be the lesser evil, but we are fancy and polite while doing it!

“Daeva doesn’t join sides, we make them.” -Margrave Alabaster Kovacs, a sterling example of a Daevan diplomat.

Daeva’s theme: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bVhJgWHOC14

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Arakhkhar
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Postby Arakhkhar » Wed May 15, 2024 8:47 am

“Yes. I believe my colleague in the ISD said the same thing - how, exactly, was this unnoticed for so long? There must surely be a rebel spy leading your intelligence service.”
”In a civilized society, there are always people above to be obeyed and people below to be commanded."
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Postby Lemueria » Wed May 15, 2024 8:48 am

The Daeva wrote:
Lemueria wrote:"I mean, a son of the Lord-Emperor, prince Sham, died. Is that important? Oh and the rebels are polluting the Dyovo River which leads to Tanpolo, Dyhorria, which is the third largest city in Lemueria with 1.3 million citizens..." He said quite breathlessly.


“… this seems like a massive intelligence and military failure. Do… do you have a plan to quash them?”

"Hydrology is really complex. And it makes more sense in context..." He said before looking down and thinking. He looked up at the Daevan rep again. "Me? Certainly no. The military? Maybe. The intelligence network? Definitely but it's probably in the early stages."

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Postby Lemueria » Wed May 15, 2024 8:49 am

Arakhkhar wrote:“Yes. I believe my colleague in the ISD said the same thing - how, exactly, was this unnoticed for so long? There must surely be a rebel spy leading your intelligence service.”

"That's a rather harsh thing to assume. And our intelligence agency doesn't have a defined leader really. It's decisions are made by a majority vote of the Intel Wing."

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Postby The Daeva » Wed May 15, 2024 8:50 am

Lemueria wrote:
The Daeva wrote:
“… this seems like a massive intelligence and military failure. Do… do you have a plan to quash them?”

"Hydrology is really complex. And it makes more sense in context..." He said before looking down and thinking. He looked up at the Daevan rep again. "Me? Certainly no. The military? Maybe. The intelligence network? Definitely but it's probably in the early stages."


“Well, begin making arrests. Undertaking raids. Pushing propaganda. Honestly man! You are practically inviting them to overthrow you.”
Heya! Just your ordinary ruthless pragmatic monarchy. We may be the lesser evil, but we are fancy and polite while doing it!

“Daeva doesn’t join sides, we make them.” -Margrave Alabaster Kovacs, a sterling example of a Daevan diplomat.

Daeva’s theme: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bVhJgWHOC14

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Postby The Daeva » Wed May 15, 2024 8:51 am

Lemueria wrote:
Arakhkhar wrote:“Yes. I believe my colleague in the ISD said the same thing - how, exactly, was this unnoticed for so long? There must surely be a rebel spy leading your intelligence service.”

"That's a rather harsh thing to assume. And our intelligence agency doesn't have a defined leader really. It's decisions are made by a majority vote of the Intel Wing."


“First off, there are enemy agents in every intelligence agency. It’s the cost of doing business. Also, ah, democracy is all well and good, but an intelligence agency should be compartmentalized. If everyone gets to vote, everyone knows what they are voting on leading to these leaks. Ye gods, man.”
Heya! Just your ordinary ruthless pragmatic monarchy. We may be the lesser evil, but we are fancy and polite while doing it!

“Daeva doesn’t join sides, we make them.” -Margrave Alabaster Kovacs, a sterling example of a Daevan diplomat.

Daeva’s theme: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bVhJgWHOC14

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Postby Lemueria » Wed May 15, 2024 8:53 am

The Daeva wrote:
Lemueria wrote:"Hydrology is really complex. And it makes more sense in context..." He said before looking down and thinking. He looked up at the Daevan rep again. "Me? Certainly no. The military? Maybe. The intelligence network? Definitely but it's probably in the early stages."


“Well, begin making arrests. Undertaking raids. Pushing propaganda. Honestly man! You are practically inviting them to overthrow you.”

"Do you think we are stupid? Of course we have been working to go against them. But they seem to be very resistant. Sure we can do all of that. But they have been messing with our water and recently food systems. I am not sure how but some restaurants have been serving poisoned food..." Then a thought clicked him. There must be a larger network inside...

The Daeva wrote:
Lemueria wrote:"That's a rather harsh thing to assume. And our intelligence agency doesn't have a defined leader really. It's decisions are made by a majority vote of the Intel Wing."


“First off, there are enemy agents in every intelligence agency. It’s the cost of doing business. Also, ah, democracy is all well and good, but an intelligence agency should be compartmentalized. If everyone gets to vote, everyone knows what they are voting on leading to these leaks. Ye gods, man.”

"There is still a tiebreaker and agenda checker but he is limited in scope. The real man behind the curtains is... well that's confidential information..."

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Postby Arakhkhar » Wed May 15, 2024 8:54 am

The Daeva wrote:
Lemueria wrote:"That's a rather harsh thing to assume. And our intelligence agency doesn't have a defined leader really. It's decisions are made by a majority vote of the Intel Wing."


“First off, there are enemy agents in every intelligence agency. It’s the cost of doing business. Also, ah, democracy is all well and good, but an intelligence agency should be compartmentalized. If everyone gets to vote, everyone knows what they are voting on leading to these leaks. Ye gods, man.”


“Well, speak for yourself regarding the first bit. But uh, yeah. Compartmentalize. Keep information restricted to those who need to know, and not only that, but ensure that very specific people have very specific tasks.”
She said, looking at the Margrave.
“I won’t detail the organization structure of the ISI, mind you.”
”In a civilized society, there are always people above to be obeyed and people below to be commanded."
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Postby The Daeva » Wed May 15, 2024 8:56 am

Lemueria wrote:
The Daeva wrote:
“Well, begin making arrests. Undertaking raids. Pushing propaganda. Honestly man! You are practically inviting them to overthrow you.”

"Do you think we are stupid? Of course we have been working to go against them. But they seem to be very resistant. Sure we can do all of that. But they have been messing with our water and recently food systems. I am not sure how but some restaurants have been serving poisoned food..." Then a thought clicked him. There must be a larger network inside...

The Daeva wrote:
“First off, there are enemy agents in every intelligence agency. It’s the cost of doing business. Also, ah, democracy is all well and good, but an intelligence agency should be compartmentalized. If everyone gets to vote, everyone knows what they are voting on leading to these leaks. Ye gods, man.”

"There is still a tiebreaker and agenda checker but he is limited in scope. The real man behind the curtains is... well that's confidential information..."


“Then mess with their water and food. First rule of rebels. If they can’t eat, they can’t fight. If they can’t think, they can’t fight. If they can’t stand, they can’t fight. If they can’t breathe, they can’t fight. We call it the Jackal Doctrine. And if you have intels of poison restaurants, shut down the restaurant and interrogate the staff.

Also, if everyone in your intelligence agency knows everything, it isn’t much of a secret, now is it? The more people know a secret the less secret it is. I would get rid of that system immediately.”
Heya! Just your ordinary ruthless pragmatic monarchy. We may be the lesser evil, but we are fancy and polite while doing it!

“Daeva doesn’t join sides, we make them.” -Margrave Alabaster Kovacs, a sterling example of a Daevan diplomat.

Daeva’s theme: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bVhJgWHOC14

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Postby Arakhkhar » Wed May 15, 2024 9:00 am

“An Intelligence agency should be structured with cells. Each cell pertaining to some certain task or geographical region, answering to a spymaster who is given status reports from each cell. That each cell has a single person who coordinates the activity of the cell, but is unaware of the exact nature of informants, couriers, or other specifics regarding the operation of that cell.”

“Such is one way to keep the organization structured, but in a way as to prevent informational collapse should one be compromised.”
”In a civilized society, there are always people above to be obeyed and people below to be commanded."
Imperial Principality of Arakhkhar
Founder of the International Security Directorate.


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Postby Lemueria » Wed May 15, 2024 9:01 am

The Daeva wrote:
Lemueria wrote:"Do you think we are stupid? Of course we have been working to go against them. But they seem to be very resistant. Sure we can do all of that. But they have been messing with our water and recently food systems. I am not sure how but some restaurants have been serving poisoned food..." Then a thought clicked him. There must be a larger network inside...


"There is still a tiebreaker and agenda checker but he is limited in scope. The real man behind the curtains is... well that's confidential information..."


“Then mess with their water and food. First rule of rebels. If they can’t eat, they can’t fight. If they can’t think, they can’t fight. If they can’t stand, they can’t fight. If they can’t breathe, they can’t fight. We call it the Jackal Doctrine. And if you have intels of poison restaurants, shut down the restaurant and interrogate the staff.

Also, if everyone in your intelligence agency knows everything, it isn’t much of a secret, now is it? The more people know a secret the less secret it is. I would get rid of that system immediately.”

"When did I say everyone knows everything!? Also the Intel Wing is like only a fraction of our intelligence network, the executives to say. The real stuff is done by the well intelligence network. And still even in the Intel Wing information is controlled. I just meant that they vote on decisions relating to intelligence. And I will tell you that the poison food thing happened 12 hours ago and the incident with Prince Sham was discovered 6 hours ago..."

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Postby The Daeva » Wed May 15, 2024 9:02 am

Arakhkhar wrote:“An Intelligence agency should be structured with cells. Each cell pertaining to some certain task or geographical region, answering to a spymaster who is given status reports from each cell. That each cell has a single person who coordinates the activity of the cell, but is unaware of the exact nature of informants, couriers, or other specifics regarding the operation of that cell.”

“Such is one way to keep the organization structured, but in a way as to prevent informational collapse should one be compromised.”


“Cell structures do work quite well. Compartmentalization is key.”
Heya! Just your ordinary ruthless pragmatic monarchy. We may be the lesser evil, but we are fancy and polite while doing it!

“Daeva doesn’t join sides, we make them.” -Margrave Alabaster Kovacs, a sterling example of a Daevan diplomat.

Daeva’s theme: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bVhJgWHOC14

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Postby The Daeva » Wed May 15, 2024 9:03 am

Lemueria wrote:
The Daeva wrote:
“Then mess with their water and food. First rule of rebels. If they can’t eat, they can’t fight. If they can’t think, they can’t fight. If they can’t stand, they can’t fight. If they can’t breathe, they can’t fight. We call it the Jackal Doctrine. And if you have intels of poison restaurants, shut down the restaurant and interrogate the staff.

Also, if everyone in your intelligence agency knows everything, it isn’t much of a secret, now is it? The more people know a secret the less secret it is. I would get rid of that system immediately.”

"When did I say everyone knows everything!? Also the Intel Wing is like only a fraction of our intelligence network, the executives to say. The real stuff is done by the well intelligence network. And still even in the Intel Wing information is controlled. I just meant that they vote on decisions relating to intelligence. And I will tell you that the poison food thing happened 12 hours ago and the incident with Prince Sham was discovered 6 hours ago..."


“How many executives are in Intel wing? Also, 12 hours? Plenty of time for a crackdown.”
Heya! Just your ordinary ruthless pragmatic monarchy. We may be the lesser evil, but we are fancy and polite while doing it!

“Daeva doesn’t join sides, we make them.” -Margrave Alabaster Kovacs, a sterling example of a Daevan diplomat.

Daeva’s theme: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bVhJgWHOC14

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Postby Arakhkhar » Wed May 15, 2024 9:05 am

The Daeva wrote:
Arakhkhar wrote:“An Intelligence agency should be structured with cells. Each cell pertaining to some certain task or geographical region, answering to a spymaster who is given status reports from each cell. That each cell has a single person who coordinates the activity of the cell, but is unaware of the exact nature of informants, couriers, or other specifics regarding the operation of that cell.”

“Such is one way to keep the organization structured, but in a way as to prevent informational collapse should one be compromised.”


“Cell structures do work quite well. Compartmentalization is key.”


“The Grigori understand that. It’s why no matter how many of your… colleagues we crack, the structure itself isn’t fractured.”
”In a civilized society, there are always people above to be obeyed and people below to be commanded."
Imperial Principality of Arakhkhar
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Postby Lemueria » Wed May 15, 2024 9:07 am

The Daeva wrote:
Lemueria wrote:"When did I say everyone knows everything!? Also the Intel Wing is like only a fraction of our intelligence network, the executives to say. The real stuff is done by the well intelligence network. And still even in the Intel Wing information is controlled. I just meant that they vote on decisions relating to intelligence. And I will tell you that the poison food thing happened 12 hours ago and the incident with Prince Sham was discovered 6 hours ago..."


“How many executives are in Intel wing? Also, 12 hours? Plenty of time for a crackdown.”

"It varies from 25-30 people. Currently there are 2 vacant seats, so 28 people. I estimate the intelligence network at 1-2 million."

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Postby European Federal Union » Wed May 15, 2024 9:10 am

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Postby The Daeva » Wed May 15, 2024 9:10 am

Lemueria wrote:
The Daeva wrote:
“How many executives are in Intel wing? Also, 12 hours? Plenty of time for a crackdown.”

"It varies from 25-30 people. Currently there are 2 vacant seats, so 28 people. I estimate the intelligence network at 1-2 million."


“That’s too many. Take it down to.. maybe ten.”
Heya! Just your ordinary ruthless pragmatic monarchy. We may be the lesser evil, but we are fancy and polite while doing it!

“Daeva doesn’t join sides, we make them.” -Margrave Alabaster Kovacs, a sterling example of a Daevan diplomat.

Daeva’s theme: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bVhJgWHOC14

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Postby Lemueria » Wed May 15, 2024 9:14 am

The Daeva wrote:
Lemueria wrote:"It varies from 25-30 people. Currently there are 2 vacant seats, so 28 people. I estimate the intelligence network at 1-2 million."


“That’s too many. Take it down to.. maybe ten.”

"Well, the information control works with the Agenda Committee having about 5-6 people. With the rest being commenters. And they are the primary agenda setters, but I will look into your suggestion..."

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Postby The Daeva » Wed May 15, 2024 9:16 am

Arakhkhar wrote:
The Daeva wrote:
“Cell structures do work quite well. Compartmentalization is key.”


“The Grigori understand that. It’s why no matter how many of your… colleagues we crack, the structure itself isn’t fractured.”


“I shall send your compliments to the Jackal.”
Heya! Just your ordinary ruthless pragmatic monarchy. We may be the lesser evil, but we are fancy and polite while doing it!

“Daeva doesn’t join sides, we make them.” -Margrave Alabaster Kovacs, a sterling example of a Daevan diplomat.

Daeva’s theme: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bVhJgWHOC14

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Father Knows Best State

Postby Romanic Imperium » Wed May 15, 2024 9:18 am

The Daeva wrote:
Arakhkhar wrote:
“The Grigori understand that. It’s why no matter how many of your… colleagues we crack, the structure itself isn’t fractured.”


“I shall send your compliments to the Jackal.”


Laura being very bored as the conversation went on about intelligence suddenly perks up

"Is that a codename? Or is that his actual name"
Im back! 3rd times the charm i guess

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Postby The Daeva » Wed May 15, 2024 9:21 am

Lemueria wrote:
The Daeva wrote:
“That’s too many. Take it down to.. maybe ten.”

"Well, the information control works with the Agenda Committee having about 5-6 people. With the rest being commenters. And they are the primary agenda setters, but I will look into your suggestion..."


“I don’t care. If they comment they know and if they know they shouldn’t. One or more is leaking. Honestly I would recommend a purge.”
Heya! Just your ordinary ruthless pragmatic monarchy. We may be the lesser evil, but we are fancy and polite while doing it!

“Daeva doesn’t join sides, we make them.” -Margrave Alabaster Kovacs, a sterling example of a Daevan diplomat.

Daeva’s theme: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bVhJgWHOC14

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