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A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Caracasus
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Postby Caracasus » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:40 am

Significance wrote:
Bulgar Rouge wrote:
It's a week-long ban, so hopefully he'll be back. I got an awesome post drafted.


Looks like I'll be juggling two RPs then probably. I ain't waiting a week, and these things don't last a week anyway (RPs). This'll be interesting...


Mate, you took part in an RP I ran that lasted over a year...
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Significance
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Postby Significance » Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:38 pm

Caracasus wrote:
Significance wrote:
Looks like I'll be juggling two RPs then probably. I ain't waiting a week, and these things don't last a week anyway (RPs). This'll be interesting...


Mate, you took part in an RP I ran that lasted over a year...


Oh hello again Caracasus.

Honestly it probably doesn't matter, I just worry I might burn myself out like last time. Too busy waiting for posts instead of doing other things caused so much unnesscessary stress last time.

I think since I know that now, I won't end up CTEd like last time.

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Cedoria
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Postby Cedoria » Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:54 pm

Will have a post detailing my reply to Bulgar Rouge and continuing my supply operations later today:)
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Hrythingland
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Postby Hrythingland » Sat Dec 22, 2018 3:44 am

Right chaps, I’m back. Dreadfully sorry about that, perhaps my humour is an acquired taste. Nonetheless I shall be using this my new main to play as Brittanic Albion for this RP. Good post from Bulgar. I’m slowly creating an ORBAT for the East Indies fleet but seeing as it is from scratch it may take a while and I’ll get posts up as a priority.
Kingdom of the Hrythingas
Hrýðingríċe
ᛒᛠᛚᚢᚳᚹᛠᛚᛘ ᚢᚾᚹᛖᚩᚱᚦᛋᚳᛁᛈᛖ ᛒᛖᚠᚩᚱᚪᚾ

SAXON NATIONALISM|WODENISM|MARTIALISM

State type: Elective Monarchy
Leader: Hrythwealda (King) Wynmar II, Earl of Ashwold,
Capital: Ingwineburgh
Language: Hrystic (Old English)
Religion: Holy Wodenic Rite
Characteristics: Isolationist, mercantile, conservative, rural, deeply religious
Industries: sheep/beef agriculture, fishing, offshore oil, financial services

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Bulgar Rouge
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Postby Bulgar Rouge » Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:35 am

Good to see this continuing!

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Singaporean Transhumans wrote:I'm only saying that, well, even commies have reached the level of selling counterfeit and drugs in their storefronts, we can't be any less.

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Significance
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Postby Significance » Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:58 pm

It's alive? Right, where was I?

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Postby Significance » Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:10 pm

Hrythingland wrote:Right chaps, I’m back. Dreadfully sorry about that, perhaps my humour is an acquired taste. Nonetheless I shall be using this my new main to play as Brittanic Albion for this RP. Good post from Bulgar. I’m slowly creating an ORBAT for the East Indies fleet but seeing as it is from scratch it may take a while and I’ll get posts up as a priority.


Oh, by the way, I may have had a change of heart over my role in this. I wanted to try and be a humanitarian right? Could be wrong. But anyway, and I want others opinions on this, could I be on Albion's side as they are pro democracy? Also, my plan of battle is using secret agents (Significance Intelligence Services, or S.I.S for short), to cause problems for the enemy before a war begins, kind of like what happened in the cold war, then if war does break out, defend my homeland if needed but also use special forces to target critical parts of other nations. Basically, play dirty instead of go head to head with nations.

Would that be ok with everyone?

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Hrythingland
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Postby Hrythingland » Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:17 am

Significance wrote:
Hrythingland wrote:Right chaps, I’m back. Dreadfully sorry about that, perhaps my humour is an acquired taste. Nonetheless I shall be using this my new main to play as Brittanic Albion for this RP. Good post from Bulgar. I’m slowly creating an ORBAT for the East Indies fleet but seeing as it is from scratch it may take a while and I’ll get posts up as a priority.


Oh, by the way, I may have had a change of heart over my role in this. I wanted to try and be a humanitarian right? Could be wrong. But anyway, and I want others opinions on this, could I be on Albion's side as they are pro democracy? Also, my plan of battle is using secret agents (Significance Intelligence Services, or S.I.S for short), to cause problems for the enemy before a war begins, kind of like what happened in the cold war, then if war does break out, defend my homeland if needed but also use special forces to target critical parts of other nations. Basically, play dirty instead of go head to head with nations.

Would that be ok with everyone?

Pro democracy
Ho ho well I’m glad you think so. It’s a wee bit more... nuanced than that old bean. Albion is a quasi democracy: the lower parliamentary chamber is elected by and from British catholic landowning males over twenty. So it’s a limited franchise. What is more the unelected House of Lords which is mostly hereditary nobles can vote down legislation not to mention Prime Ministers usually sit in that chamber. And lastly the monarch does not have to sign legislation and can disband Parliament when they wish. Although by law there are certain things they cannot do with a Parliament sitting like raise taxes and maintain a standing army so they wouldn’t disband it they would call a fresh election.
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Kingdom of the Hrythingas
Hrýðingríċe
ᛒᛠᛚᚢᚳᚹᛠᛚᛘ ᚢᚾᚹᛖᚩᚱᚦᛋᚳᛁᛈᛖ ᛒᛖᚠᚩᚱᚪᚾ

SAXON NATIONALISM|WODENISM|MARTIALISM

State type: Elective Monarchy
Leader: Hrythwealda (King) Wynmar II, Earl of Ashwold,
Capital: Ingwineburgh
Language: Hrystic (Old English)
Religion: Holy Wodenic Rite
Characteristics: Isolationist, mercantile, conservative, rural, deeply religious
Industries: sheep/beef agriculture, fishing, offshore oil, financial services

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Significance
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Postby Significance » Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:09 am

Hrythingland wrote:Pro democracy
Ho ho well I’m glad you think so. It’s a wee bit more... nuanced than that old bean. Albion is a quasi democracy: the lower parliamentary chamber is elected by and from British landowning males over twenty. So it’s a limited franchise. What is more the unelected House of Lords which is mostly hereditary nobles can vote down legislation not to mention Prime Ministers usually sit in that chamber. And lastly the monarch does not have to sign legislation and can disband Parliament when they wish. Although by law there are certain things they cannot do with a Parliament sitting like raise taxes and maintain a standing army so they wouldn’t disband it they would call a fresh election.


Well, more pro democracy than the other side, right? Call it the lesser of two evils. But, I still will play underhand, cold war style. Make sure (or try to make sure), no one knows it's me pulling the strings, becuase it's easier changing the world behind the scenes, than in front of them.

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Caracasus
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Postby Caracasus » Mon Dec 24, 2018 6:22 am

Post up!

More shennanigans. More spies. More clandestine stuff.
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Bulgar Rouge
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Postby Bulgar Rouge » Mon Dec 24, 2018 7:46 am

I like the way the spy stuff is unfolding. With what I have in mind, it will be exciting.

This nation does not reflect my RL views.
Singaporean Transhumans wrote:I'm only saying that, well, even commies have reached the level of selling counterfeit and drugs in their storefronts, we can't be any less.

The Holy Therns wrote:Politicians make statements. It's their substitute for achievement.

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Postby Caracasus » Mon Dec 24, 2018 8:23 am

Bulgar Rouge wrote:I like the way the spy stuff is unfolding. With what I have in mind, it will be exciting.


I hope so! In canon Caracasus and Cedoria are allies (in spite of Caracasusian dissaproval of Cedoria's authoritarian structure, and Cedorian disaproval of Caracasus's more anarchic direct democracy) so there will be some information sharing.
As an editor I seam to spend an awful lot of thyme going threw issues and checking that they're no oblivious errars. Its a tough job but someone's got too do it!



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Bulgar Rouge
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Postby Bulgar Rouge » Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:23 am

Caracasus wrote:
Bulgar Rouge wrote:I like the way the spy stuff is unfolding. With what I have in mind, it will be exciting.


I hope so! In canon Caracasus and Cedoria are allies (in spite of Caracasusian dissaproval of Cedoria's authoritarian structure, and Cedorian disaproval of Caracasus's more anarchic direct democracy) so there will be some information sharing.


Interesting. The Bulgar Rouge are somewhat cool to other left-leaning regimes not sharing their vision, considering them weak on ideological matters. The Transitional Heavenly State, on the other hand, is viewed as far too radical because its ideology is essentially a form of religious fanaticism and a political death cult, but the group nevertheless remains the sole combat-capable ally of the BR in Asia.

This nation does not reflect my RL views.
Singaporean Transhumans wrote:I'm only saying that, well, even commies have reached the level of selling counterfeit and drugs in their storefronts, we can't be any less.

The Holy Therns wrote:Politicians make statements. It's their substitute for achievement.

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Significance
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Postby Significance » Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:33 am

Caracasus wrote:
Bulgar Rouge wrote:I like the way the spy stuff is unfolding. With what I have in mind, it will be exciting.


I hope so! In canon Caracasus and Cedoria are allies (in spite of Caracasusian dissaproval of Cedoria's authoritarian structure, and Cedorian disaproval of Caracasus's more anarchic direct democracy) so there will be some information sharing.


Is Caracasus working with Albion? Or China?

Actually, what are the standings right now? I need to plan my first move.

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Bulgar Rouge
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Postby Bulgar Rouge » Mon Dec 24, 2018 11:55 am

Significance wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
I hope so! In canon Caracasus and Cedoria are allies (in spite of Caracasusian dissaproval of Cedoria's authoritarian structure, and Cedorian disaproval of Caracasus's more anarchic direct democracy) so there will be some information sharing.


Is Caracasus working with Albion? Or China?

Actually, what are the standings right now? I need to plan my first move.


The Bulgar Rouge support the insurgency, but not for ideological reasons. They see China as a threat, and the Transitional Heavenly State as a useful, if erratic, proxy. There's a long-term game in supporting the insurgents.

This nation does not reflect my RL views.
Singaporean Transhumans wrote:I'm only saying that, well, even commies have reached the level of selling counterfeit and drugs in their storefronts, we can't be any less.

The Holy Therns wrote:Politicians make statements. It's their substitute for achievement.

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Caracasus
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Postby Caracasus » Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:32 pm

Caracasusian relations:

Cedoria are allies.

China (who havent yet made an appearence) historically strained, though leaning towards.

Albion Empire. Strained although not hostile.

Bulgar Rouge. I am thinking broadly good. However if it's OK with you BR, a fun bit of backstory could be that our relations have been strained a little recently following a set of attacks in Caracasus perpetuated by the Heavenly State and BR's seeming reluctance to condem the group fully.
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Bulgar Rouge
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Postby Bulgar Rouge » Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:54 pm

Caracasus wrote:Caracasusian relations:

Cedoria are allies.

China (who havent yet made an appearence) historically strained, though leaning towards.

Albion Empire. Strained although not hostile.

Bulgar Rouge. I am thinking broadly good. However if it's OK with you BR, a fun bit of backstory could be that our relations have been strained a little recently following a set of attacks in Caracasus perpetuated by the Heavenly State and BR's seeming reluctance to condem the group fully.


I'm fine with that. In fact, the Transitional Heavenly State are beyond despicable so any hostile action against them would be completely normal.

This nation does not reflect my RL views.
Singaporean Transhumans wrote:I'm only saying that, well, even commies have reached the level of selling counterfeit and drugs in their storefronts, we can't be any less.

The Holy Therns wrote:Politicians make statements. It's their substitute for achievement.

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Cedoria
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Postby Cedoria » Mon Dec 24, 2018 7:08 pm

So I was too optimistic about my posting time:) I will however, be able to have one up in the next day or so now. I like the way this is unfolding.
In real life I am a libertarian socialist

Abolish the state!

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Cedoria
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Postby Cedoria » Mon Dec 24, 2018 7:22 pm

Significance wrote:
Caracasus wrote:
I hope so! In canon Caracasus and Cedoria are allies (in spite of Caracasusian dissaproval of Cedoria's authoritarian structure, and Cedorian disaproval of Caracasus's more anarchic direct democracy) so there will be some information sharing.


Is Caracasus working with Albion? Or China?

Actually, what are the standings right now? I need to plan my first move.


Caracasus is a Cedorian ally with long-standing cooperation despite differences in internal structure.

Bulgar Rouge is... complicated. We support them against mutual enemies, but Cedorian leaders aren't all that fond of rural style Communism, we we much prefer to see going towards industrialisation, modernisation and development. THS is a group we are unlikely to approve of at all, to put mildly, but we'll probably (reluctantly) accept them as support in this fight, if only because we probably don't mind THS people dying in place of our own, but my leaders won't like the Pol Pot style ideology, and I won't RP them as being happy about their involvement. My leaders likely would think THS is nuts.

China we mostly see as a useful idiot proxy. We know what they're doing in Albion, and because it was undermining colonialism in our region we didn't care to stop them, but we're getting involved now that they've been exposed and probably can't carry the fight alone. But obviously we probably wouldn't consider them genuine socialists.

I'll be responding to Bulgar Rogue and setting up our collab in this conflict next, plus possibly reaching out to Caracasus and starting to move my other chess pieces, particularly intelligence assets around. My supply shipment seems to have succeeded for the first run, so I'll start pushing other pieces around as well now.

Cedoria is, obviously, backing the UCA primarily to undermine colonialism and Albion for both ideological and strategic reasons.
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Hrythingland
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Postby Hrythingland » Tue Dec 25, 2018 4:12 pm

Albion has no real allies as it sees little need for them on a long term basis. It can be very friendly with like minded nations and the wider Anglosphere but it’s mercantile nature and self serving international policy leave it with few true allies. Albion views China as a dire threat to its hegemony in the Far East whilst also opposing the communism of the UCA and China’s original communist origins not to mention many radical islamists in the UCA; though it’s leadership is Atheist. Albion hopes a display of muscle will settle the region down or provoke a war which it thinks it is potentially well placed to take an early upper hand in. A full scale war would also allow it to implement measures against social and political dissidents of several stripes which is the cynical desire of some of Gressingham’s advisors and donors.
Kingdom of the Hrythingas
Hrýðingríċe
ᛒᛠᛚᚢᚳᚹᛠᛚᛘ ᚢᚾᚹᛖᚩᚱᚦᛋᚳᛁᛈᛖ ᛒᛖᚠᚩᚱᚪᚾ

SAXON NATIONALISM|WODENISM|MARTIALISM

State type: Elective Monarchy
Leader: Hrythwealda (King) Wynmar II, Earl of Ashwold,
Capital: Ingwineburgh
Language: Hrystic (Old English)
Religion: Holy Wodenic Rite
Characteristics: Isolationist, mercantile, conservative, rural, deeply religious
Industries: sheep/beef agriculture, fishing, offshore oil, financial services

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Cedoria
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Postby Cedoria » Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:26 pm

Got a post up dealing with the ramifications of the supply mission, Bulgar Rouge's diplomatic outreach to us, and the beginning of the People's Intelligence Agency's attempts to establish more direct cooperation with the UCA.
In real life I am a libertarian socialist

Abolish the state!

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Bulgar Rouge
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Postby Bulgar Rouge » Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:10 am

I'll post a separate response to Cedoria since that summit will not be related (yet) to the main events in Malaysia.

This nation does not reflect my RL views.
Singaporean Transhumans wrote:I'm only saying that, well, even commies have reached the level of selling counterfeit and drugs in their storefronts, we can't be any less.

The Holy Therns wrote:Politicians make statements. It's their substitute for achievement.

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Postby Caracasus » Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:50 pm

Wanted to post plenty from more normal countries before doing a post actually set in Caracasus but changed my mind. It is a really odd country.
As an editor I seam to spend an awful lot of thyme going threw issues and checking that they're no oblivious errars. Its a tough job but someone's got too do it!



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Hrythingland
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Postby Hrythingland » Thu Dec 27, 2018 4:15 am

Bulgar, may I send a team of marines to board your defecting ship?
Kingdom of the Hrythingas
Hrýðingríċe
ᛒᛠᛚᚢᚳᚹᛠᛚᛘ ᚢᚾᚹᛖᚩᚱᚦᛋᚳᛁᛈᛖ ᛒᛖᚠᚩᚱᚪᚾ

SAXON NATIONALISM|WODENISM|MARTIALISM

State type: Elective Monarchy
Leader: Hrythwealda (King) Wynmar II, Earl of Ashwold,
Capital: Ingwineburgh
Language: Hrystic (Old English)
Religion: Holy Wodenic Rite
Characteristics: Isolationist, mercantile, conservative, rural, deeply religious
Industries: sheep/beef agriculture, fishing, offshore oil, financial services

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Bulgar Rouge
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Postby Bulgar Rouge » Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:22 am

Hrythingland wrote:Bulgar, may I send a team of marines to board your defecting ship?


When its location is disclosed, yeah.

This nation does not reflect my RL views.
Singaporean Transhumans wrote:I'm only saying that, well, even commies have reached the level of selling counterfeit and drugs in their storefronts, we can't be any less.

The Holy Therns wrote:Politicians make statements. It's their substitute for achievement.

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