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[Impireacht]

So its:

Achesia: Monarchist Rebels
Imp: Anarchist Rebels
Geneta: Government

If there are anarchist rebels I guess I could lead them and just screw them over at the end
But if you're implying my nation is anarchist, I can assure you that it isn't - Impireacht is a right-wing classical liberal state in most aspects, except the whole intense militarization and imperialism thing.

[Achesia]

So its:

Achesia: Monarchist Rebels
Imp: Anarchist Rebels
Geneta: Government

If there are anarchist rebels I guess I could lead them and just screw them over at the end
But if you're implying my nation is anarchist, I can assure you that it isn't - Impireacht is a right-wing classical liberal state in most aspects, except the whole intense militarization and imperialism thing.

No I had just thought you said something about supporting anarchists to fit your agenda.

[Achesia]

So Donepul I'm just waiting your go ahead to RP some of the rebels and then I will post.

[Donepuleopia]

@Gebeta, you probably want to communicate with the government you are trying to support. Do you want to have your Ambassador meet with the President?

@Impireacht, sounds good

@Achesia What do you want to do with the rebels? if you want to RP with General Ricks, the leading Monarchist? He is a former General with the government who defected with his troops.

[Achesia]

@Gebeta, you probably want to communicate with the government you are trying to support. Do you want to have your Ambassador meet with the President?

@Impireacht, sounds good

@Achesia What do you want to do with the rebels? if you want to RP with General Ricks, the leading Monarchist? He is a former General with the government who defected with his troops.

Ok ya I could use him, basically I am just going to try and bring them to victory with Achesian help. Do you have a map and a perhaps locations of the rebels/government forces?

[Gebeta]

@Gebeta, you probably want to communicate with the government you are trying to support. Do you want to have your Ambassador meet with the President?

We can do that. Though I find diplomatic rps get dull.
What if I have him go in with a unit of marines, and see what happens.

[Donepuleopia]

I will make a map and post it.

@Gebeta, war is just policy by other means. War without diplomacy is not realistic and is pointless. Maybe this rp is not for you?

[Achesia]

I will make a map and post it.

@Gebeta, war is just policy by other means. War without diplomacy is not realistic and is pointless. Maybe this rp is not for you?

tbh I find RPing diplomacy rather boring as well. I prefer to have it happen in the background and not necessarily act it all out in my posts, I'd rather just outline or summarize it.

[Donepuleopia]

I think diplomacy is boring depending on how you do it. I have no intention of acting out every little detail, but creating a scene or too to provide some important background as to why there is fighting is well, important. It also can be fun if done well. Just like fighting can be boring if one focuses on the logistics.

Of course, what is always needed in RP is patience. Some people want to skip to the chase, and so they do a really bad job at everything else.

[Donepuleopia]

As promised the map:

[Achesia]

I think diplomacy is boring depending on how you do it. I have no intention of acting out every little detail, but creating a scene or too to provide some important background as to why there is fighting is well, important. It also can be fun if done well. Just like fighting can be boring if one focuses on the logistics.

Of course, what is always needed in RP is patience. Some people want to skip to the chase, and so they do a really bad job at everything else.

Oh I agree 100%, if you are talking behind the scenes build up to the conflict then I am on board, I love a good build up. I'm talking RPing meetings and such. While they are fine just a few here and there I do agree when they get to be too much it gets to be too much...

[Achesia]

As promised the map:

(Image)

Whoa... did you make that map? That is amazing.

[Gebeta]

I will make a map and post it.

@Gebeta, war is just policy by other means. War without diplomacy is not realistic and is pointless. Maybe this rp is not for you?

I never said I'm just going in to fight. My ambassador is going into a war zone, and he isn't going alone. I just figured it would be interesting if something happaned, rather than talking over what's going to happen. Besides, I would think if the government is losing, they would be more eager to get over talks and get help vrs talking it over. If you feel as though I don't it I'll leave if you like. It's your rp.

[Achesia]

Could you post a link to the IC thread in the O0?

[Achesia]

What sort if equipment do the rebel military units have?

And to be clear am I taking over RPing as General Rick's rebels?

Edit: I posted a bit.

[Impireacht]

Honestly I enjoy diplomatic RPs, and was kind of planning to not get too involved with my own military - this is sort of a proxy war we're fighting in our bigger struggle against Socialism. Hence you're probably going to have to diplomacy RP with me a bit, since there's not much I can do on the ground without a ton of troops there, but I'll try not to have massive meetings and such.

[Smolenski]

Smolenski will provide peace keeping forces for this RP when needed.

Our forces will be not outmatched in numbers or strength, but keep in mind that it will take a lot for us to get involved, a while for our force to mobilize, and it will be slow going once involvement begins.

Just think of it in terms of red tape. We're bigger and stronger than anybody else on the playground, but it's gonna take us a while to get there, and we can't beat up every single kid in ten minutes. We're gonna have to take it back slowly- first the slide, then the swing set, etc.

All rediculous examples aside, would this be acceptable to everyone? If not, I'm willing to work with y'all.

[Achesia]

Smolenski will provide peace keeping forces for this RP when needed.

Our forces will be not outmatched in numbers or strength, but keep in mind that it will take a lot for us to get involved, a while for our force to mobilize, and it will be slow going once involvement begins.

Just think of it in terms of red tape. We're bigger and stronger than anybody else on the playground, but it's gonna take us a while to get there, and we can't beat up every single kid in ten minutes. We're gonna have to take it back slowly- first the slide, then the swing set, etc.

All rediculous examples aside, would this be acceptable to everyone? If not, I'm willing to work with y'all.

I wouldnt mind peacekeepers but I don't know about bigger or stronger than everyone else. Peacekeepers typically when used only come in so much force enough to put a buffer between opposing factions enough that diplomacy can work. It wouldnt make much sense economically or politically for your nation to commit so much force just for a peacekeeping mission. unless you have an economic dog in the fight then I would say at most you would be sending a brigade or two.

[Donepuleopia]

@Gebeta, we don't need to RP the meeting, but you at least need to mention ones. Neither marines nor ambassadors show up unannounced. Okay sometimes marines, but but then the visit is alwats less than friendly.

@Achesia, good post. I made the map by editing a map from wikicommons. In regard to rebels, Ricks leads the more conventional troops. He has all the tanks under his command. The rebels also have drones, and some missiles. Most of the equipment is dated, from the 90s. Mostly what they have was taken from the government or smuggled in. They are on the border, so smuggling is easy.

Ricks troops played a big role in taking Riverton. So now he is primarily responsible for defending the city.

Government troops have withdrawn, south of the city. The rebels now occupy considerable territory, and must now govern it. Something that Ricks also has to consider.

@Impireacht I see no problem with that.

[Achesia]

@Gebeta, we don't need to RP the meeting, but you at least need to mention ones. Neither marines nor ambassadors show up unannounced. Okay sometimes marines, but but then the visit is alwats less than friendly.

@Achesia, good post. I made the map by editing a map from wikicommons. In regard to rebels, Ricks leads the more conventional troops. He has all the tanks under his command. The rebels also have drones, and some missiles. Most of the equipment is dated, from the 90s. Mostly what they have was taken from the government or smuggled in. They are on the border, so smuggling is easy.

Ricks troops played a big role in taking Riverton. So now he is primarily responsible for defending the city.

Government troops have withdrawn, south of the city. The rebels now occupy considerable territory, and must now govern it. Something that Ricks also has to consider.

@Impireacht I see no problem with that.

Ok I'll RP like that, do you mind if I pick out what equipment they used or do you have something in mind that they were using?

I also plan to arm them with modern Achesian equipment that we supply to them.

[Smolenski]

Smolenski will provide peace keeping forces for this RP when needed.

Our forces will be not outmatched in numbers or strength, but keep in mind that it will take a lot for us to get involved, a while for our force to mobilize, and it will be slow going once involvement begins.

Just think of it in terms of red tape. We're bigger and stronger than anybody else on the playground, but it's gonna take us a while to get there, and we can't beat up every single kid in ten minutes. We're gonna have to take it back slowly- first the slide, then the swing set, etc.

All rediculous examples aside, would this be acceptable to everyone? If not, I'm willing to work with y'all.

I wouldnt mind peacekeepers but I don't know about bigger or stronger than everyone else. Peacekeepers typically when used only come in so much force enough to put a buffer between opposing factions enough that diplomacy can work. It wouldnt make much sense economically or politically for your nation to commit so much force just for a peacekeeping mission. unless you have an economic dog in the fight then I would say at most you would be sending a brigade or two.

Well, it might might all come down to the existing natural resources in the region. But I see what you're saying.

Any notion on when this would start? I'd like to see this scenario put into motion.

[Achesia]

I wouldnt mind peacekeepers but I don't know about bigger or stronger than everyone else. Peacekeepers typically when used only come in so much force enough to put a buffer between opposing factions enough that diplomacy can work. It wouldnt make much sense economically or politically for your nation to commit so much force just for a peacekeeping mission. unless you have an economic dog in the fight then I would say at most you would be sending a brigade or two.

Well, it might might all come down to the existing natural resources in the region. But I see what you're saying.

Any notion on when this would start? I'd like to see this scenario put into motion.

Well the civil war really has just started...

[Smolenski]

Well, it might might all come down to the existing natural resources in the region. But I see what you're saying.

Any notion on when this would start? I'd like to see this scenario put into motion.

Well the civil war really has just started...

I was just talking about the RP in general

[Achesia]

Well the civil war really has just started...

I was just talking about the RP in general

Oh its started, The OP just has not linked the IC in the OP.

[Donepuleopia]

Okay, you are both welcome to post on the IC thread:

https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=406477

actually, I posted it a while ago