Made the top 100 with no puppets today!

[PhilTech]

Made it to 75th. Bonus!

Keep it up!

[Hustlertwo]

Will do!

[Mikeswill]

Alas, I had puppets prior to the April 1st roll-out.
My gameplay has been a mix of Legs; amassing puppet copies; and collections
I have been fortunate to react to the ever-changing winds of the game
And, as such, my DV isn't bad plus I have numerous nice collections
To your credit, I check the owners list before transferring now to avoid your heist attempts
Enjoy the leaderboard ranking

[The Orwell Society]

Alas, I had puppets prior to the April 1st roll-out.
My gameplay has been a mix of Legs; amassing puppet copies; and collections
I have been fortunate to react to the ever-changing winds of the game
And, as such, my DV isn't bad plus I have numerous nice collections
To your credit, I check the owners list before transferring now to avoid your heist attempts
Enjoy the leaderboard ranking

Way too many times (in other accounts) have I recieved an intimidating tg reading "don't mess with my transfers or I'll kill you"

[One Small Island]

Alas, I had puppets prior to the April 1st roll-out.
My gameplay has been a mix of Legs; amassing puppet copies; and collections
I have been fortunate to react to the ever-changing winds of the game
And, as such, my DV isn't bad plus I have numerous nice collections
To your credit, I check the owners list before transferring now to avoid your heist attempts
Enjoy the leaderboard ranking

Way too many times (in other accounts) have I recieved an intimidating tg reading "don't mess with my transfers or I'll kill you"

Mike has never threatened to kill me over trying to heist his transfers. What am I doing wrong? D:

[New Kowloon Bay]

Way too many times (in other accounts) have I recieved an intimidating tg reading "don't mess with my transfers or I'll kill you"

Mike has never threatened to kill me over trying to heist his transfers. What am I doing wrong? D:

Attempt to heist more.

[Mikeswill]

Alas, I had puppets prior to the April 1st roll-out.
My gameplay has been a mix of Legs; amassing puppet copies; and collections
I have been fortunate to react to the ever-changing winds of the game
And, as such, my DV isn't bad plus I have numerous nice collections
To your credit, I check the owners list before transferring now to avoid your heist attempts
Enjoy the leaderboard ranking

Way too many times (in other accounts) have I recieved an intimidating tg reading "don't mess with my transfers or I'll kill you"

If you spent more time actually developing your collection instead of trying to heist others' hard labours then maybe you would be treated with greater respect

[The Orwell Society]

Way too many times (in other accounts) have I recieved an intimidating tg reading "don't mess with my transfers or I'll kill you"

If you spent more time actually developing your collection instead of trying to heist others' hard labours then maybe you would be treated with greater respect

This is the account in which all my cards are: Ambrossa. I am fairly proud of my collection, thank you. And I didn't know it was a transfer until I got the TGs

[Mikeswill]

I find it amusing that Orwelling card Nations would be outraged by a threat
(I never ever threatened to kill)
(Though on occasion I role-play)
Having read 1984 I would surmise Orwell would have approved

[Umbratellus]

Alas, I had puppets prior to the April 1st roll-out.
My gameplay has been a mix of Legs; amassing puppet copies; and collections
I have been fortunate to react to the ever-changing winds of the game
And, as such, my DV isn't bad plus I have numerous nice collections
To your credit, I check the owners list before transferring now to avoid your heist attempts
Enjoy the leaderboard ranking

Way too many times (in other accounts) have I recieved an intimidating tg reading "don't mess with my transfers or I'll kill you"

:^) Same here lmao

[Hustlertwo]

Alas, I had puppets prior to the April 1st roll-out.
My gameplay has been a mix of Legs; amassing puppet copies; and collections
I have been fortunate to react to the ever-changing winds of the game
And, as such, my DV isn't bad plus I have numerous nice collections
To your credit, I check the owners list before transferring now to avoid your heist attempts
Enjoy the leaderboard ranking

Way too many times (in other accounts) have I recieved an intimidating tg reading "don't mess with my transfers or I'll kill you"

Yes, I had a few of those too from Mike, either for interfering with his transfers or once just because he found out after the fact I had bought a card he wanted. I think he just sends them to the smaller players; it’s classic bully mentality. Only interested in threatening people he feels he can push around. Which is pretty comical to see in something as low stakes as an Internet card game. I mean, he has no power to do anything to anyone here. So it’s best to just have a chuckle at it and go on about your business. Worst he can do is devalue your cards. Not exactly major in the grand scheme of things.

Most of the other puppeteers are pretty decent folks, though.

[Mikeswill]

I can appreciate your biased perspective
I call it role-play
Most of us on the Card Discord get along great and help each other attain our goals
It is human nature to react when another has conflict toward mutual goals
It takes the average Nation 4 weeks to build 4.00 Bank and only 61 seconds to lose it
For those of you who heist these individuals and then claim a higher moral ground when the tables are reversed
Well... enjoy karma...
I chuckle all the time

[Hustlertwo]

I can appreciate your biased perspective
I call it role-play
Most of us on the Card Discord get along great and help each other attain our goals
It is human nature to react when another has conflict toward mutual goals
It takes the average Nation 4 weeks to build 4.00 Bank and only 61 seconds to lose it
For those of you who heist these individuals and then claim a higher moral ground when the tables are reversed
Well... enjoy karma...
I chuckle all the time

It is indeed human nature to be a jerk. Just not exactly a charming aspect of human nature when you threaten people with a fraction of your bank in an effort to clear the playing field. It’s not RP. You just don’t like being called out in public for what you do in private.

And it’s time to be clear: what you call heists are legitimate transactions in this game. Literally just selling a card at the price offered by a buyer. Playing the game as it was designed to be. Using scripts to farm from a thousand puppet regions, not so much. It’s not a gray area, choose your own truth situation. Puppeteers are playing the game on easy mode, and heists are the small tax they have to pay for that. However, that’s not really the issue at play here. Dozens of people are puppeteers. Only a small handful feel the need to be unpleasant about it. That’s not required for how you play the game. It’s just a personal flaw.

I heist lots of people. But I will admit, I do enjoy it a bit more when it’s you. Since I don’t really have to feel bad messing up someone who tries so hard to be unlikable when it’s so easy to be, you know, at least slightly pleasant in this life. Try it, mate. Might help fill that hole in your life all those cards never seem to help with.

[Mikeswill]

" Might help fill that hole in your life all those cars never seem to help with".

I like the personal attack.
It's as if you actually even know me

[Hustlertwo]

I don’t know how else to interpret the constant lashing out at people playing the game alongside you. I didn’t mind it much when I thought it was just me, since you don’t have the power to do anything to me in a way I care about, but it’s a shame to realize you’ve been doing it to numerous other players, some of whom may actually take your hollow threats to heart. Trying to win a game is one thing. Trying to chase people away from it is another, and speaks to more insidious issues.

I do like how you didn’t address anything else I said. It’s almost like you know you don’t have a real defense for your behavior.

[Mikeswill]

I addressed our difference in perspectives regarding heisting trades.
Your perspective is in the minority of successful players and I submit, drives more players out of the game than role-playing telegrams.
I help out tons of players all of the time but the negative voice is always louder than the positive voice.

It is true that I entered the game with an advantage (not of my own making) on April 1, 2018 and in December of that year because I had a lot of puppets that reflect different interests in my life since I began playing the game in 2003. It is apparent that you have a bias against players with puppets. That is none of my business but it is part of the game. My success comes from adapting to the game over time. I have in fact been a jerk in the past. Mostly I have evolved away from that position.

The vast majority of my interactions are positive. It is true that most of the time I will win any conflict in a trade because I have worked harder than the other player and have amassed more copies or bank relative to that particular trade. It is called math. In our most recent trade you had the math on your side and won a stunning 0.34 bank from me in a trade. Earlier in the day you did not get an 85.00 trade because, as our interactions have never been positive despite my attempts to reach out to you, I heisted the trade.

In my opinion it is ice cream: I like chocolate; you like strawberry. We aren't going to agree so I just move on eating my ice cream and leave you be. It is why I congratulated you in my initial post. You have accomplished a goal and I think that is awesome.

What I won't do is make a personal attack on you because it is a game and many people play it as they see fit.

[Hustlertwo]

I addressed our difference in perspectives regarding heisting trades.
Your perspective is in the minority of successful players and I submit, drives more players out of the game than role-playing telegrams.
I help out tons of players all of the time but the negative voice is always louder than the positive voice.

It is true that I entered the game with an advantage (not of my own making) on April 1, 2018 and in December of that you because I had a lot of puppets that reflect different interests in my life since I began playing the game in 2003. It is apparent that you have a bias against players with puppets. That is none of my business but it is part of the game. My success comes from adapting to the game over time. I have in fact been a jerk in the past. Mostly I have evolved away from that position.

The vast majority of my interactions are positive. It is true that most of the time I will win any conflict in a trade because I have worked harder than the other player and have amassed more copies or bank relative to that particular trade. It is called math. In our most recent trade you had the math on your side and won a stunning 0.34 bank from me in a trade. Earlier in the day you did not get an 85.00 trade because, as our interactions have never been positive despite my attempts to reach out to you, I heisted the trade.

In my opinion it is ice cream: I like chocolate; you like strawberry. We aren't going to agree so I just move on eating my ice cream and leave you be. It is why I congratulated you in my initial post. You have accomplished a goal and I think that is awesome.

What I won't do is make a personal attack on you because it is a game and many people play it as they see fit.

There’s a lot of role playing that goes on here involving people’s nations. Threatening people over selling or buying cards does not qualify as such. You just don’t want to take responsibility for your actions.

If my bias was against puppeteers, I’d be calling out all of them. But as I said, most who play the game that way treat people just fine. It’s not a general bias on people using puppets. It’s a bone to pick with you in particular. Someone who, again, made a choice to try and be a bully on an Internet card game of all places. Who is still trying to scrabble for the moral high ground in the face of multiple people calling him out for his transgressions. Which, you know, good luck with that.

I do apologize, I did not realize the remark about you using cards to distract from your real life issues would hurt your feelings to this extent. But the fact that it triggered you like this may be a sign that you should rethink some things. It’s never too late to take steps toward making a positive change. I hope you can manage it, mate. A good start might be treating people like people.

[Mikeswill]

"I do apologize, I did not realize the remark about you using cards to distract from your real life issues would hurt your feelings to this extent. But the fact that it triggered you like this may be a sign that you should rethink some things. It’s never too late to take steps toward making a positive change. I hope you can manage it, mate. A good start might be treating people like people."



I guess that's the best you got

[Coffin-Breathe]

There is no 'role-playing' in the card game; the card subgame is all about cards. If you want to 'role-play', do so where (in NS) it´s seen as such and accepted; plenty of opportunities in here...
I´d say, either that´s just a very lame excuse for bad and unacceptable behaviour (which attempts of 'bullying ' definitely are), or you have problems to keep things separated - then you maybe should seek out for professional help.

[The Shaymen]

Way too many times (in other accounts) have I recieved an intimidating tg reading "don't mess with my transfers or I'll kill you"

Yes, I had a few of those too from Mike, either for interfering with his transfers or once just because he found out after the fact I had bought a card he wanted. I think he just sends them to the smaller players; it’s classic bully mentality. Only interested in threatening people he feels he can push around. Which is pretty comical to see in something as low stakes as an Internet card game. I mean, he has no power to do anything to anyone here. So it’s best to just have a chuckle at it and go on about your business. Worst he can do is devalue your cards. Not exactly major in the grand scheme of things.

Most of the other puppeteers are pretty decent folks, though.

Wait, this loser actually sent you a threat?

I'm pretty new to this game, however it is clear that this person is quite clearly not all there (to put it in the kindest way). It is clear he has a high degree of autism and is a bit of a social misfit.

In my brief time playing the card aspect of this game he is the only person whom I have seen who is just downright unpleasant and makes the game less fun. A flat track bully, as has been mentioned that goes after the small players and tries to intimidate. In the first two/three days of looking at the game and how the cards played I tried a few buys/trades and it was interesting to see how he popped up in not just my auctions, but many other peoples, snipping and listing/buying multiple copies of a sale card, simply to snipe someone of .0.5 of bank. Really petty and malicious behaviour from someone who is doing it to newbies who have next to nothing when he is sat on thousands of bank himself.

The game to me is a bit of fun to kill a spare hour or so at night when I've finished work, however it is clear that to him it is more likely his entire worth and being. It's more tragic and sad than impressive - and again just shows the high levels of autisim he clearly has that he has to latch onto this to "be someone".

Out of all those I've interacted with via trading and the like, I can't say I've come across any other person who I would say is not a nice person. I'm not interested in high value cards, I just want to collect legendarys. As a rule I junk every card that isn't a legendary unless someone has a bid on it and I will sell it, even at less than face if they want it - unless I see Mikes name on the bid list. I would junk a card offering 10x its value from him rather than selling it him since he is so petty and nasty in how he goes after other people. I wish there was a method that simply allowed you to block a user from buying or selling you a card as that would greatly improve the game by stopping him from ruining every interaction.

I'd like to say I am shocked that this loser has actually gone to the levels of sending threats out to people, but sadly it doesn't surprise me. Theres always one that ruins it for everyone else due to their desire to be seen as a "Mr Big" or an important player. He is neither. Just a loser.

[Mikeswill]

As a school teacher with 16 years experience teaching special needs students your depiction of autism is both ignorant and discriminatory.
It is definitely a lack of character on your part to attempt to belittle individuals who see and experience the world different from the accepted norm.
maybe if you spent some time with individual on the autism spectrum you might get a better sense of their humanity before disparaging them in the future.

As for me, I have no idea who you are. I play a game called NationStates in my spare time. A few people over the course of 18 years have issues with me. I can accept that. A lot of others get along grand with me. I enjoy those interactions. What I don't do is engage in personal attacks over a difference in opinion.

[NPO Farmer Vylixan X]

Yes, I had a few of those too from Mike, either for interfering with his transfers or once just because he found out after the fact I had bought a card he wanted. I think he just sends them to the smaller players; it’s classic bully mentality. Only interested in threatening people he feels he can push around. Which is pretty comical to see in something as low stakes as an Internet card game. I mean, he has no power to do anything to anyone here. So it’s best to just have a chuckle at it and go on about your business. Worst he can do is devalue your cards. Not exactly major in the grand scheme of things.

Most of the other puppeteers are pretty decent folks, though.

I'm pretty new to this game, however it is clear that this person is quite clearly not all there (to put it in the kindest way). It is clear he has a high degree of autism and is a bit of a social misfit.

As someone with an autism spectrum disorder (ASD), I don't like to see the word autism thrown around willy nilly.
Especially not when people just use it point out things they don't like and immediately skip to autism as an explanation, thusly contributing to the very wrong ideas society seem to have about ASD and people with ASD. Congratulations, you just contributed to a stereotype. You are now part of the problem!
You are not medically or otherwise trained in diagnosing autism spectrum disorders, so please refrain from playing armchair psychologist on a forum.
I especially dislike you making some sort of amateurish connection between "high degree of autism" and "social misfit", people already have very wrong idea about ASD and people with ASD. We don't need you to make it worse just because you got hurt on the internet.

And I almost forgot the the worst part, your reference to "not all there (to put it in the kindest way)" and autism. That gets into dangerous territory of calling people with ASD crazy.
I expect you to apologise for that low remark.

[Vylixan]

I'm pretty new to this game, however it is clear that this person is quite clearly not all there (to put it in the kindest way). It is clear he has a high degree of autism and is a bit of a social misfit.

As someone with an autism spectrum disorder (ASD), I don't like to see the word autism thrown around willy nilly.
Especially not when people just use it point out things they don't like and immediately skip to autism as an explanation, thusly contributing to the very wrong ideas society seem to have about ASD and people with ASD. Congratulations, you just contributed to a stereotype. You are now part of the problem!
You are not medically or otherwise trained in diagnosing autism spectrum disorders, so please refrain from playing armchair psychologist on a forum.
I especially dislike you making some sort of amateurish connection between "high degree of autism" and "social misfit", people already have very wrong idea about ASD and people with ASD. We don't need you to make it worse just because you got hurt on the internet.

And I almost forgot the the worst part, your reference to "not all there (to put it in the kindest way)" and autism. That gets into dangerous territory of calling people with ASD crazy.
I expect you to apologise for that low remark.

Oops, that was supposed to be a post with my main account. Oh well.

[The Shaymen]

I expect you to apologise for that low remark.

I stand by my comment.

This loser is THREATENING people over a game. Let that sink in.

[New Kowloon Bay]

I expect you to apologise for that low remark.

I stand by my comment.

This loser is THREATENING people over a game. Let that sink in.

You may think he is threatening, but that doesn't give you the right to just call him autistic.

You may believe he is a loser, but that doesn't give you the right to portray him as a "not all there" person.

Just call him a loser if you really, really have to.