Season 3?

[Giraffeton]

I can see no reason, why limiting the number of farming puppets should be more a problem than it is with WA membership; and limited access to card-farming puppets also means, no puppets simply for storing. While paying for storage space is in fact a vital part of the system (as written and meant in the rules).

except for the fact that enforcing the rule of limiting how many puppets you have would take a large amount of server power, which is expensive. all that computer power used for verifying WA account is necessary to stop one person raiding a region with their army of puppets. but for cards? puppets only impact a mini game within NS and as such is not worth the large extra cost for servers to run the checks you are proposing

[Very totally free]

policing how many many card farms you have would be too computationally expensive for NS to implement and would probably either have have lots of loops holes or stop people making alt nations for other reasons. and the overstocking loophole, it would incentivise more puppets as players would need more bank to expand their deck as well as using puppets to store cards

I can see no reason, why limiting the number of farming puppets should be more a problem than it is with WA membership; and limited access to card-farming puppets also means, no puppets simply for storing. While paying for storage space is in fact a vital part of the system (as written and meant in the rules).

Limiting card farming would be a waste of time and resources.

[Coffin-Breathe]

except for the fact that enforcing the rule of limiting how many puppets you have would take a large amount of server power, which is expensive. all that computer power used for verifying WA account is necessary to stop one person raiding a region with their army of puppets. but for cards? puppets only impact a mini game within NS and as such is not worth the large extra cost for servers to run the checks you are proposing

...wouldn´t occupy more server power than handling all 'overstored' collections and/or doing the same for WA membership, I suppose; and must be done only once.

[Giraffeton]

...wouldn´t occupy more server power than handling all 'overstored' collections and/or doing the same for WA membership, I suppose; and must be done only once.

what facts did you use to come to this conclusion? and what do you mean an overstored collection?

lastly limiting access puppets would not only impact card farming but R/D as how is a defender going to create a new nation if they are banned from the region they are trying to defend?

[New Sunville]

...wouldn´t occupy more server power than handling all 'overstored' collections and/or doing the same for WA membership, I suppose; and must be done only once.

what facts did you use to come to this conclusion? and what do you mean an overstored collection?

lastly limiting access puppets would not only impact card farming but R/D as how is a defender going to create a new nation if they are banned from the region they are trying to defend?

I think what they mean by "overstored collections" is that puppets will hold a ton of cards due to farming, thus creating more data that needs to be stored. I don't know what the NS server storage situation looks like so I can't definitively say if this takes up a lot of space or not, however I can assume that if rules that would limit puppets aren't being put in place, then it's fine.

[Giraffeton]

I think what they mean by "overstored collections" is that puppets will hold a ton of cards due to farming, thus creating more data that needs to be stored. I don't know what the NS server storage situation looks like so I can't definitively say if this takes up a lot of space or not, however I can assume that if rules that would limit puppets aren't being put in place, then it's fine.

good thing i only use my main for storage then...

[Far out]

good thing i only use my main for storage then...

just curious - how much did you have to pay for a storage space of 3000 cards ?

[Giraffeton]

good thing i only use my main for storage then...

just curious - how much did you have to pay for a storage space of 3000 cards ?

i've only paid for 200 deck space.

The only reason i have 3k cards is because i am overstocked (you can still buy buy through auctions if you are over deck capacity)

but i think i saw somewhere that 2k cards is like 2k+ bank, which is about the total amount of bank i've ever earned

[Arpasia]

Right now, I'm counting on the number of forum posts that I'm making, because I believe that my S3 card's rarity would not be common or uncommon if I were to make as much forum posts as possible.

[New Zoigai]

I have tried to get my nation and all my puppet nations to be as rare as possible, What would be a good way to raise the rarity?

[The H Corporation]

I have tried to get my nation and all my puppet nations to be as rare as possible, What would be a good way to raise the rarity?

Not the perfect thread to say it but try and get golden badges or smth

[Minskiev]

Right now, I'm counting on the number of forum posts that I'm making, because I believe that my S3 card's rarity would not be common or uncommon if I were to make as much forum posts as possible.

I don't think this is likely, to be honest.

[One Small Island]

I have tried to get my nation and all my puppet nations to be as rare as possible, What would be a good way to raise the rarity?

raise your influence, 1% badges, Write issues, pass WA legislation, get commended or condemned, become a member of staff, found a region, join the WA, become WADelegate, become a site supporter... those are the ways we believe that your rarity can be increased.

[Coffin-Breathe]

i've only paid for 200 deck space.
The only reason i have 3k cards is because i am overstocked (you can still buy buy through auctions if you are over deck capacity)
but i think i saw somewhere that 2k cards is like 2k+ bank, which is about the total amount of bank i've ever earned

...and of course you, like I guess all other 'overstockers' and 'big puppet farmers' see yourself as 'clever', not as 'unfair' to all players trying to live by the rules as meant.
Can´t you see, that massive collections and 'farming big' has created the problems of insufficient server power, while restricting such acting (clodsing the loopholes, that make them possible) would provide an easy to implement solution (as well as bringing back a little balance to the game) ?
You were never meant (as well as many others) to stock ammounts of cards you couldn´t pay for, at least not in such a short time.
Whenever I have a look on the market, it´s occupied by whole pages of transfers from puppets to puppets, or puppets to mains, and occasional real transactions are relatively scarce. You (since your nation(s) are a little to young, can´t remember, but the card game was once createds as an Aprils fool event, and is flawed, like (imo) every Aprils fool event. The problem is, that many players (mee too) found it funny and liked it so much, that we wanted to become a permanent feature; but it´s lacking great on proper regulation, and the mods/admins don´t seem to really want to implement such (f.e., closing the loopholes), for whatever reason.

[Riemstagrad]

i've only paid for 200 deck space.
The only reason i have 3k cards is because i am overstocked (you can still buy buy through auctions if you are over deck capacity)
but i think i saw somewhere that 2k cards is like 2k+ bank, which is about the total amount of bank i've ever earned

...and of course you, like I guess all other 'overstockers' and 'big puppet farmers' see yourself as 'clever', not as 'unfair' to all players trying to live by the rules as meant.
Can´t you see, that massive collections and 'farming big' has created the problems of insufficient server power, while restricting such acting (clodsing the loopholes, that make them possible) would provide an easy to implement solution (as well as bringing back a little balance to the game) ?
You were never meant (as well as many others) to stock ammounts of cards you couldn´t pay for, at least not in such a short time.
Whenever I have a look on the market, it´s occupied by whole pages of transfers from puppets to puppets, or puppets to mains, and occasional real transactions are relatively scarce. You (since your nation(s) are a little to young, can´t remember, but the card game was once createds as an Aprils fool event, and is flawed, like (imo) every Aprils fool event. The problem is, that many players (mee too) found it funny and liked it so much, that we wanted to become a permanent feature; but it´s lacking great on proper regulation, and the mods/admins don´t seem to really want to implement such (f.e., closing the loopholes), for whatever reason.

Look, coffin, you must be playing a different game, because no one is experiencing those problems. And if it was a problem, admin could easy implement a hard limit. Face it: we play the game as intended. We overstock and we cope with the drawbacks. Please stop calling us cheaters, because we are not.

[Arpasia]

Come to think of it, increasing card rarity seems to be somewhat of a herculean task.

[Hustlertwo]

Wait, we can go over the limit? And here I am forking over 16 bank to go from 200 to 250. Grade A sucker move right there.

[Bawkie]

Wait, we can go over the limit? And here I am forking over 16 bank to go from 200 to 250. Grade A sucker move right there.

Only when buying at auction, not when opening packs or receiving gifts.

[One Small Island]

Wait, we can go over the limit? And here I am forking over 16 bank to go from 200 to 250. Grade A sucker move right there.

What Bawkie said, but also when you're over the limit you can't open packs anymore, so there's a trade off, albeit not a particularly compelling one, and despite what some would have you believe going over the limit is neither cheating, nor unfair.

[Giraffeton]

...and of course you, like I guess all other 'overstockers' and 'big puppet farmers' see yourself as 'clever', not as 'unfair' to all players trying to live by the rules as meant.
Can´t you see, that massive collections and 'farming big' has created the problems of insufficient server power, while restricting such acting (clodsing the loopholes, that make them possible) would provide an easy to implement solution (as well as bringing back a little balance to the game) ?
You were never meant (as well as many others) to stock ammounts of cards you couldn´t pay for, at least not in such a short time.
Whenever I have a look on the market, it´s occupied by whole pages of transfers from puppets to puppets, or puppets to mains, and occasional real transactions are relatively scarce. You (since your nation(s) are a little to young, can´t remember, but the card game was once createds as an Aprils fool event, and is flawed, like (imo) every Aprils fool event. The problem is, that many players (mee too) found it funny and liked it so much, that we wanted to become a permanent feature; but it´s lacking great on proper regulation, and the mods/admins don´t seem to really want to implement such (f.e., closing the loopholes), for whatever reason.

you wanna know something thats unfair but still isn't cheating? inflation, the thing making it near impossible to get into top 50 without supporting it

[Hustlertwo]

Wait, we can go over the limit? And here I am forking over 16 bank to go from 200 to 250. Grade A sucker move right there.

What Bawkie said, but also when you're over the limit you can't open packs anymore, so there's a trade off, albeit not a particularly compelling one, and despite what some would have you believe going over the limit is neither cheating, nor unfair.

Well, I did just open up my first Legendary recently, and promptly sold it for 29 bank. So I guess maybe it wasn't such a bad deal to expand out a little more. That one pack paid for that added space and then some.

[Riemstagrad]

What Bawkie said, but also when you're over the limit you can't open packs anymore, so there's a trade off, albeit not a particularly compelling one, and despite what some would have you believe going over the limit is neither cheating, nor unfair.

Well, I did just open up my first Legendary recently, and promptly sold it for 29 bank. So I guess maybe it wasn't such a bad deal to expand out a little more. That one pack paid for that added space and then some.

It all just depends on your goals. I paid for deck expansions until 1000. When i set myself the goal to collect every epic (1800 cards in S1 and 1600 in S2) it became obvious that i had to abandon deck capacity.

As long as you are going for smaller collections, just go ahead and pay for those upgrades. Keep in mind that when you're paying 25.00 bank for 50 extra cards, you're paying 0.50 bank per card for storage and much more for larger collections.

[Coffin-Breathe]

you wanna know something thats unfair but still isn't cheating? inflation, the thing making it near impossible to get into top 50 without supporting it

Well, you´re right - somehow. But not because 'inflation makes getting into the top 50 impossible' (every single nation in the so-called 'top 50' is there because of loopholes like 'farming big', 'overstocking' and/or 'inflating'; that´s why I´m against the 'art badge' and the 'ranking list'.)
Inflation is bad, because it makes it almost impossible for 'real collectors' (theme collectors), to get cards for their collection, that are inflated artificially, as no one sells them (for a reasonable price) anymore.
Fun fact is, that it looks like also the 'high ranking players' have to suffer from the same problems, which only came into existence by their way of playing; inflating is only one more logical consequence of competing through farming big and amassing bank. Though much less than 'occasional' or 'small' players.

[Incredible Bums]

Wait, we can go over the limit? And here I am forking over 16 bank to go from 200 to 250. Grade A sucker move right there.

Tell me about it...
Even with the site supporter badge, it took me about 230 bank to expand to a mere space of 1500 cards; and I still have no idea how to pay the expected 270 to 280 bank for the next expansion, except for a very lucky draw.
Btw, it´s possible to get the gold badge (arts) without inflating cards or amassing legendaries; I, for example, got it because a lot of cards already part of my collection(s) long before were inflated by some inflaters...

[Bridge Computer]

Longest running april fools JOKE - almost 4 years - Guinness book of records stuff

I think site staff could add to the joke by releasing Season 4 this April Fool's Day, and still never release S3. Like that old joke about letting loose three pigs that are numbered 1, 2 and 4. I would die laughing if that happened

this is true and i would too
but seriously, the NS card game stops at nothing. that's where it has stopped. welcome to Season 0.
zilch.