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Coffin-Breathe
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Postby Coffin-Breathe » Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:05 am

Fauzjhia wrote:read this : https://www.nationstates.net/page=news/ ... index.html
Frisbeeteria was assigned to card development.

My mistake, sorry
Fauzjhia wrote:your wrong, a region can be complete without scripting. scripts is used to answer issues faster then normally, but its not that necessary to buy cards. its just faster, because farmer do not care about the stats of their puppets.

????? You maybe didn´t get or don´t want to understand really, what I was talking about; you maybe should reread my posting.

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Postby Coffin-Breathe » Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:13 am

Giraffeton wrote:My opinion is that the card capacity should increase by like 1 bank each time cause I like collecting lots of quite worthless cards and shouldn't have to worry about not having enough deck capacity or not having enough bank to expand my deck. And I most certainly shouldn't have to overstock my deck just so I can have all my cards in one place.

Buying the "site supporter badge" for a very small fee (real money) in the "shop" would turn out to be very helpful, as this doubles your deckspace; you might consider doing so.

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Fauzjhia
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Postby Fauzjhia » Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:48 am

Ioavollr wrote:
Fauzjhia wrote:This is the list of all nations who have more then 1000 cards
(Image)

look at this, and tell me, Do we REALLY need to have two dv leaderboards ?


This list is incomplete. Scandinavian Card Vault, for instance, had 1450+ cards on the 13th of November.


I think I have idea why I did not saw it.
its DV is too low to be top 500

Coffin-Breathe wrote:
Fauzjhia wrote:your wrong, a region can be complete without scripting. scripts is used to answer issues faster then normally, but its not that necessary to buy cards. its just faster, because farmer do not care about the stats of their puppets.

????? You maybe didn´t get or don´t want to understand really, what I was talking about; you maybe should reread my posting.

i know your position, you stand against region and rarities collection(too many cards), you stand against frisbeeteria's (and 9003's obviously) big collection, you dislike gotissues (and I don't like it..) you dislike card farming nations (don't like them too)
I see and understand your positions and I doubt, overstocking will ever disappear
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Postby Coffin-Breathe » Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:30 pm

Fauzjhia wrote: you dislike card farming nations (don't like them too)

...funny...having someone confessing openly to hate his own person... :lol:

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Postby Giraffeton » Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:28 am

If you want overstocking gone then why can you just hide bids from public view until the person expands their deck space?
Contrary to the belief of Coffin-Breathe, I am not a puppet. But instead a puppet master.

BUYING CARDS: https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/show_trades=bids

Also buying[(Telegram me to sell):
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Flags with symbols featured on them ---> eg:https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=42459
Science cards (no sci fi) ---> eg:https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=42443
Cats and Dogs: --->eg:https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=42458

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Postby Fauzjhia » Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:47 am

Coffin-Breathe wrote:
Fauzjhia wrote: you dislike card farming nations (don't like them too)

...funny...having someone confessing openly to hate his own person... :lol:

I simply use my farming nation for more then my own wealth.
Worlds of color mainly used to pay farmers.
Rejected Pacific is used to give legendary to TRR and to people registered in the forum give away, which you are not registered in, maybe because you are not interested. its your choice.

compared to GIovanni and Mikeswill, my current wealth, and its not like I am poor, its nothing. maybe if you count all my puppets, you could come up with more wealth, but these puppets need bank too, they deserve their own collection too, that's why they are created, to buy themselves.
I don't hate myself, but I really dislike how card farming nations are used

Giraffeton wrote:If you want overstocking gone then why can you just hide bids from public view until the person expands their deck space?


you forget deck expansion cost a lot, especially for a single nation, or a puppet
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Postby Coffin-Breathe » Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:37 am

Giraffeton wrote:If you want overstocking gone then why can you just hide bids from public view until the person expands their deck space?

?????
Maybe you just meant can not ?
If bids or asks could be "hidden from public view", but trading for said nation is not made impossible in advance, this would only create a new way for "absolutely safe transaction", as no one could at least watch such transactions on the free market then. Because the bid would still be set and could be matched, but not watched.

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Postby Fauzjhia » Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:55 am

Coffin-Breathe wrote:
Giraffeton wrote:If you want overstocking gone then why can you just hide bids from public view until the person expands their deck space?

?????
Maybe you just meant can not ?
If bids or asks could be "hidden from public view", but trading for said nation is not made impossible in advance, this would only create a new way for "absolutely safe transaction", as no one could at least watch such transactions on the free market then. Because the bid would still be set and could be matched, but not watched.


no, they meant to hide bids from a nation that's over deck capacity, so a nation whose deck is full, would be unable to buy cards.
that's what you want.
but that is a dream. that will not happen.
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Support : non-corrupt state, human rights, women rights, wild life protection, banning fossil fuel, cooperatives, journalists, Radio-Canada, Télé-Quebec, freedom and right to be informed, Quebec's Independence, Protection of the French Language, Immigration right and integration.
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Long live the rejected realms, NS best region ever, the only ejection free region.

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Postby Giraffeton » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:08 pm

Fauzjhia wrote:
you forget deck expansion cost a lot, especially for a single nation, or a puppet

Bruh, I've legit said this earlier in this topic.

Giraffeton wrote:
like why is it even that expensive in the first place? why can't it linearly increase instead of exponentially

So no I didn't forget how how expansive deck expansion is. In fact I know all too well how painful it is to have to spend all your bank to expand your deck. Thats why I think deck expansion cost should increase linearly.
Contrary to the belief of Coffin-Breathe, I am not a puppet. But instead a puppet master.

BUYING CARDS: https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/show_trades=bids

Also buying[(Telegram me to sell):
Giraffes
Flags with symbols featured on them ---> eg:https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=42459
Science cards (no sci fi) ---> eg:https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=42443
Cats and Dogs: --->eg:https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=42458

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Postby Giraffeton » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:13 pm

Coffin-Breathe wrote:
Giraffeton wrote:If you want overstocking gone then why can you just hide bids from public view until the person expands their deck space?

?????
Maybe you just meant can not ?
If bids or asks could be "hidden from public view", but trading for said nation is not made impossible in advance, this would only create a new way for "absolutely safe transaction", as no one could at least watch such transactions on the free market then. Because the bid would still be set and could be matched, but not watched.


What i meant by hidden from public view is that that bid cannot be seen or matched until the nation expands their deck. Making it impossible for the nation to acquire more cards.
Contrary to the belief of Coffin-Breathe, I am not a puppet. But instead a puppet master.

BUYING CARDS: https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/show_trades=bids

Also buying[(Telegram me to sell):
Giraffes
Flags with symbols featured on them ---> eg:https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=42459
Science cards (no sci fi) ---> eg:https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=42443
Cats and Dogs: --->eg:https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=42458

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Postby Coffin-Breathe » Sat Nov 20, 2021 1:32 am

Giraffeton wrote:What i meant by hidden from public view is that that bid cannot be seen or matched until the nation expands their deck. Making it impossible for the nation to acquire more cards

...which is basically the same as I proposed : prohibited access to the market for such nations...

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Postby Fauzjhia » Sat Nov 20, 2021 10:06 am

Coffin-Breathe wrote:
Giraffeton wrote:What i meant by hidden from public view is that that bid cannot be seen or matched until the nation expands their deck. Making it impossible for the nation to acquire more cards

...which is basically the same as I proposed : prohibited access to the market for such nations...


If I remember, fris said they were not interested in junking the vast majority of their deck to start over again. although I did not saw them much often in the market recently.
So, even if you propose it more times. it will not happen.
So maybe you can think about solutions that can be implemented instead of suggesting idea you know will never be approved. that just because annoying and waste time.
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Support : non-corrupt state, human rights, women rights, wild life protection, banning fossil fuel, cooperatives, journalists, Radio-Canada, Télé-Quebec, freedom and right to be informed, Quebec's Independence, Protection of the French Language, Immigration right and integration.
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Long live the rejected realms, NS best region ever, the only ejection free region.

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Postby Giraffeton » Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:16 pm

Coffin-Breathe wrote:
Giraffeton wrote:What i meant by hidden from public view is that that bid cannot be seen or matched until the nation expands their deck. Making it impossible for the nation to acquire more cards

...which is basically the same as I proposed : prohibited access to the market for such nations...


Did you say that in this topic?
Anyway sorry for saying the same idea as you I didn’t know we had the same idea
Contrary to the belief of Coffin-Breathe, I am not a puppet. But instead a puppet master.

BUYING CARDS: https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/show_trades=bids

Also buying[(Telegram me to sell):
Giraffes
Flags with symbols featured on them ---> eg:https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=42459
Science cards (no sci fi) ---> eg:https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=42443
Cats and Dogs: --->eg:https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=42458

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Postby Vylixan » Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:30 am

My honest opinion.
Abolish Deck value as a measurement anywhere on the website. No leader boards, no gold badges, no stats, nothing.

So, I just solved the problem of inflation, MV sharks, and a host of other problems. And I still can collect the same cards I was collecting before this change, thus for me nothing changed to make it worse in the short term.

Of course this will not happen, and is not a realistic solution to any of these problems. Because it will chase away a majority of the large players and either change the card game entirely, or destroy it.

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Postby Giraffeton » Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:36 am

Vylixan wrote:My honest opinion.
Abolish Deck value as a measurement anywhere on the website. No leader boards, no gold badges, no stats, nothing.

So, I just solved the problem of inflation, MV sharks, and a host of other problems. And I still can collect the same cards I was collecting before this change, thus for me nothing changed to make it worse in the short term.

Of course this will not happen, and is not a realistic solution to any of these problems. Because it will chase away a majority of the large players and either change the card game entirely, or destroy it.

bruh......saids the dude who sometimes answers issues solely on how they will effect my stats
Last edited by Giraffeton on Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:37 am, edited 1 time in total.
Contrary to the belief of Coffin-Breathe, I am not a puppet. But instead a puppet master.

BUYING CARDS: https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/show_trades=bids

Also buying[(Telegram me to sell):
Giraffes
Flags with symbols featured on them ---> eg:https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=42459
Science cards (no sci fi) ---> eg:https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=42443
Cats and Dogs: --->eg:https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/collection=42458

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Vylixan
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Postby Vylixan » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:38 am

Giraffeton wrote:
Vylixan wrote:My honest opinion.
Abolish Deck value as a measurement anywhere on the website. No leader boards, no gold badges, no stats, nothing.

So, I just solved the problem of inflation, MV sharks, and a host of other problems. And I still can collect the same cards I was collecting before this change, thus for me nothing changed to make it worse in the short term.

Of course this will not happen, and is not a realistic solution to any of these problems. Because it will chase away a majority of the large players and either change the card game entirely, or destroy it.

bruh......saids the dude who sometimes answers issues solely on how they will effect my stats


I have no idea what you are talking about?

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Postby Coffin-Breathe » Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:49 am

Vylixan wrote:My honest opinion.
Abolish Deck value as a measurement anywhere on the website. No leader boards, no gold badges, no stats, nothing.

...totally on your side... :hug:
Vylixan wrote:Of course this will not happen, and is not a realistic solution to any of these problems. Because it will chase away a majority of the large players and either change the card game entirely, or destroy it.

Here we´re different - I´m not so sure, if this really would "chase away many players", eventually not even as much as already have left the game meanwhile because of the current situation.

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