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Postby Fauzjhia » Sat Oct 09, 2021 6:54 am

Without Tacls. transfer are going much more safer, you know.
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Benevolent Earth
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Postby Benevolent Earth » Sat Oct 09, 2021 2:40 pm

Coffin-Breathe wrote:...and is a very good example, where good intentions gone wrong; initially invented to make trading of "high valued" cards a little bit more risky, when giving every player a slight chance of getting a new copy of said cards during their auction, it only led to further advantage of "big farmers" (the only ones which can afford and do such stage-managed auctions) and unbalance of the game.
First, because "farming big" multiplies the otherwise very slim chance of getting a copy from a "pull event", but second, and that´s much more important, by "mass-producing" high-priced and heaviy sought-after legendaries, which were intended to stay very rare, hard to get, and, following the principles of a free market, also become cards with a somehow stable and high "market value". The artificial generated "inflation of such cards" via "pull events" clearly leads to destabilisation of "the system (as intended)".
To at least stop this (which is much more easy to do as "punishing the abusement"), it`s absolutely necessary to abandon the "TCALS" completely, thus giving every card the same chance of showing up, based on rarity.
This would eventually also reduce those ridiculous bids on many other cards (0.01 or 0.02), mainly set not to "track" those cards (most "farmers" don´t even notice changings on bids/asks on their allegedly "tracked" cards, because they don´t care or simply "track" to many of them), but to increase the chances of getting an (extremely rare) card through farming, when a bid and an ask (even without the card being on auction) are set. Which, I might add, is so much more of a nuisance for me, when I see those ridiculous (penny) bids on "extremely hard to get" cards like "very low-owner-series-one" cards, especially, when they come from players with immense "bank" and/or hundreds/thousands of farms.

Agree. TACLS gotta be excised from the game.

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Postby Coffin-Breathe » Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:17 pm

Fauzjhia wrote:Without Tacls. transfer are going much more safer, you know.

Well, so ?
Reasonable limits on farming and no more "overstocking", no "transfer problems"....
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Postby Benevolent Earth » Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:11 am

Coffin-Breathe wrote:
Fauzjhia wrote:Without Tacls. transfer are going much more safer, you know.

Well, so ?
Reasonable limits on farming and no more "overstocking", no "transfer problems"....


The TACLS abusers have wrecked the financial balance of the game selling TACLS duplicated cards and it's easy to observe. https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/ ... 3/season=1

See recent S1 Eluvatar listed Finds below. Detectable TACLS abuse 35 days ago and 247 days. Look at the rrade history and see Inflation 77, Inflation 57 & Inflation 9 gifted the duplicated cards to Purpura Heart who is currently selling them all three at auction for 150.00 bank. So far he has one taker. Purpura Heart is selling 3 duplicated cards for 150.00 each. This is a rip off. He's not the only one who's done this. It's disgusting, but this is trackable using finds and trade history.

35 days ago: Found by Deflation 269
35 days ago: Found by Color 0x2C
35 days ago: Found by Inflation 77
35 days ago: Found by Dangine card farm9
35 days ago: Found by Inflation 57
35 days ago: Found by Editor-In-Chief
35 days ago: Found by Dangine card farm
35 days ago: Found by Inflation 9
35 days ago: Found by 099s Into Ejection Burn
145 days ago: Found by Centrist Card Farm 167
217 days ago: Found by Veskeland
235 days ago: Found by Testing nation 4447
247 days ago: Found by Cooki56
247 days ago: Found by Cooki97
247 days ago: Found by Oofery 101
247 days ago: Found by Marching band land
247 days ago: Found by Oaks 278
247 days ago: Found by Vylixan Soteria 210
247 days ago: Found by Max Stirner 136
247 days ago: Found by Wonder97
247 days ago: Found by Max Stirner 85
247 days ago: Found by Vylixan Neikea 180
247 days ago: Found by 353 Ohms
247 days ago: Found by Cooki23

EDIT: moving this to it's own thread Tracking TACLS abuse.
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Postby Panagouge » Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:48 pm

While Benevolent's ideas may be disagreeable, I believe that the overall intentions are noble. If less nations could be used for more farming, an example among many ideas, then S3 wouldn't be so daunting.
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Postby Benevolent Earth » Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:52 am

Panagouge wrote:While Benevolent's ideas may be disagreeable, I believe that the overall intentions are noble. If less nations could be used for more farming, an example among many ideas, then S3 wouldn't be so daunting.

I put them all out there to help keep the fix the card game conversation going, perhaps to create the spark in another player to find the best idea.

A few of mine are even disagreeable to myself and will hurt my own collections. But if the game continues to degenerate as it has, then all our time playing cards may be collectively wasted.

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Postby Coffin-Breathe » Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:36 pm

Panagouge wrote: If less nations could be used for more farming, an example among many ideas, then S3 wouldn't be so daunting.

Well, said in short : "farming" is the base of almost every problem with the game.

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Postby Benevolent Earth » Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:26 am

Coffin-Breathe wrote:
Panagouge wrote: If less nations could be used for more farming, an example among many ideas, then S3 wouldn't be so daunting.

Well, said in short : "farming" is the base of almost every problem with the game.

As long as it's understood there is a synergy between card farming and TACLS abuse which necessitates the elimination of TACLS. The best case scenario will be a reduction in size of card farms, therefore the current TACLS mechanism must be completely disabled.

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