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Postby Fauzjhia » Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:03 am

Coffin-Breathe wrote:
Frisbeeteria wrote: I have no problem with the rich (either in Bank or Deck Value) paying more than the poor. We add to the money supply (Bank) every time a pack is drawn, but there's nothing that actually removes Bank from the game.

I´d say, if everyone is forced to pay for storage capacity (as intended), this would "remove" more than enough "bank from the game"; this in addition to a limited number of "card receiving nations" would fix most of the problems, imo.
Furthermore, if you (the admins, programmers and overseers) don´t do such radical cuts (without hesitation and regardless of the whining of some) soon, the card game is ruined and a failure forever (in fact, more and more becoming a romping ground for a small inbred bunch), imo.


I'm all for limiting the numbers of puppets people should have.
since the very beginning, I have given up on the fight to deck value, because I know I will never fight, its pointless to even try, and honestly, its not that important. We should just remove that trophy and the leadership board. but that is another topic.

But if anything, one of the most urgent problems are inflated cards, CTE cards that present fake market value, as the cards was never traded, only between a puppets and its master. I believe the original poster solution would work in that case, so let's be on subject.

there is already a topic on deck capacity BTW.
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Postby Coffin-Breathe » Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:52 am

Fauzjhia wrote:I'm all for limiting the numbers of puppets people should have.

If that´s true, so why then not starting by reducing the about fivehundred puppets you stated to own to an acceptable number of, let´s say, twenty-five or even ten ?

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Postby Fauzjhia » Wed Sep 01, 2021 7:30 am

I note you have a very poor opinion of me and every other farmers.
you have the right to get your own opinion, and you don,t need to respect us.

I prefer to think I'm going to complete costly collection on those nations without relying much on my main. so no thank you


Edit : I'll point it to you now, but some of my puppets, as found as many gold badges as you
https://www.nationstates.net/nation=bharczlilhiaz 25 gold badges while you just have 24 (even with its sad drop in book industry)

I find it offensive, that you claim that it should not live.
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Postby Coffin-Breathe » Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:07 am

Well, I rule a nation I´d like to live in, and don´t care much about those ridiculous "gold badges" (especially since you get a lot of them, when your nation is old/big enough, if you like to).
Nevertheless I find it very interesting, when you´re advocating a reduction of puppets to (you stated) an ammount of 600, when you´re possessing about 580 of them (you stated too) while claiming to speak "for the small players", like you do. If I´m to take your words for serious, I´d say, you begin to reduce your own farms to an acceptable ammount of at least two digits. This would be a tiny, but correct step in direction of cleaning up the mess, you and your "big farming comrades" have created of a once nice and interesting game without the interferece of "admins".

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Postby Fauzjhia » Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:18 am

Coffin-Breathe wrote:Well, I rule a nation I´d like to live in, and don´t care much about those ridiculous "gold badges" (especially since you get a lot of them, when your nation is old/big enough, if you like to).
Nevertheless I find it very interesting, when you´re advocating a reduction of puppets to (you stated) an ammount of 600, when you´re possessing about 580 of them (you stated too) while claiming to speak "for the small players", like you do. If I´m to take your words for serious, I´d say, you begin to reduce your own farms to an acceptable ammount of at least two digits. This would be a tiny, but correct step in direction of cleaning up the mess, you and your "big farming comrades" have created of a once nice and interesting game without the interferece of "admins".


I don't advocate for (a big reduction of puppets)
I say that puppets that I dislike puppets who exist solely to fuel cards to the main. If I wanted, I could easily put that 12 000 bank on my main and say my puppets are good for nothing else then that.
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Postby Coffin-Breathe » Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:33 am

Oh, I see...they´re also good for creating bank, which really makes a difference... :rofl:

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Postby Fauzjhia » Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:21 am

Coffin-Breathe wrote:Oh, I see...they´re also good for creating bank, which really makes a difference... :rofl:



I don't and will not ever transfer from theses. I prefer to use them as self-collectors.
I just keep bank on puppets for puppet needs.
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Postby Benevolent 1 » Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:37 am

Fauzjhia wrote:
Coffin-Breathe wrote:I´d say, if everyone is forced to pay for storage capacity (as intended), this would "remove" more than enough "bank from the game"; this in addition to a limited number of "card receiving nations" would fix most of the problems, imo.
Furthermore, if you (the admins, programmers and overseers) don´t do such radical cuts (without hesitation and regardless of the whining of some) soon, the card game is ruined and a failure forever (in fact, more and more becoming a romping ground for a small inbred bunch), imo.


I'm all for limiting the numbers of puppets people should have.
since the very beginning, I have given up on the fight to deck value, because I know I will never fight, its pointless to even try, and honestly, its not that important. We should just remove that trophy and the leadership board. but that is another topic.

But if anything, one of the most urgent problems are inflated cards, CTE cards that present fake market value, as the cards was never traded, only between a puppets and its master. I believe the original poster solution would work in that case, so let's be on subject.

there is already a topic on deck capacity BTW.


And here it is--> viewtopic.php?f=15&t=509364

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Postby Vylixan » Sat Sep 04, 2021 1:00 am

Coffin-Breathe wrote:
Frisbeeteria wrote: I have no problem with the rich (either in Bank or Deck Value) paying more than the poor. We add to the money supply (Bank) every time a pack is drawn, but there's nothing that actually removes Bank from the game.

I´d say, if everyone is forced to pay for storage capacity (as intended), this would "remove" more than enough "bank from the game"; this in addition to a limited number of "card receiving nations" would fix most of the problems, imo.
Furthermore, if you (the admins, programmers and overseers) don´t do such radical cuts (without hesitation and regardless of the whining of some) soon, the card game is ruined and a failure forever (in fact, more and more becoming a romping ground for a small inbred bunch), imo.



I've made this argument before, extensively. But I feel we are way past that point right now. Next to the fact that it would disallow some of my favourite collection in this game, or nice collections at all.
Unless you want people to stop collecting cards, or delete entire card collections. Which would ruin the card game more completely then you feel it is ruined now.

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