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Idea: Owner/Special Edition Cards

Postby Farrakhan » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:11 pm

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With time, it is likely to become increasingly difficult for newer players to collect earlier versions of cards. Current packs will prioritize distribution of the latest season's inventory, with the chance of pulling prior season cards increasingly diminishing over time. When cards from earlier seasons are placed into an auction, this scarcity factor is likely to bid prices up, reinforcing the issue as rationing through affordability couples with rationing by supply.

To alleviate some of these issues, I suggest implementing some form of Special Edition mechanism, whereby the creators of the cards themselves (and ONLY the creators) could distribute non-market-based copies to their fellow players from earlier seasons. These SE Cards would exist in a separate rarity tier from the normal cards. They would not carry Market/Junk Value, could not be placed into Auction, could not be Gifted once received, and would not impact Deck Capacity or Deck Value.

Potential Benefits:

i. This would give players a sense of authority over the distribution of the cards they created to an extent they currently do not have, without impacting the market-based system as a whole.

ii. This could enhance the gameplay experience of those who primarily play as Collectors, who may not invest much time into Card Farming and thus lack sufficient Bank to avoid the Rationing thru Affordability problem.

iii. This could foster a further sense of shared community into the Trading Card mini-game, as to gain any given owner's SE cards, one would need to obtain their direct consent to be sent as a Gift.

iv. This may help to mitigate the Rationing thru Scarcity issue, as active owners with longevity could help to fill the collection needs of their fellow players who may have started playing long after (perhaps years after) a given season's card had organic distribution. Theoretically, a player active today could gift their Season 2 SE card to a player just starting in 2028.

To distinguish a Special Edition card in appearance from the regular card of a given season, an insignia of some sort could be attached (such as a unique border or perhaps a signature). Conceivably an owner could even attach a personalized message within or below the body of the SE card as a symbol of friendship.

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As someone who plays as a Market Maker (not as a collector) this wouldn't negatively impact my style of play, and I'd be happy to distribute my SE cards to those who have a Collection-focused approach should such a process be implemented. Perhaps others who approach the game differently can see holes in the suggestion and/or potential shortfalls that could be augmented to make the idea better. Feel free to share your thoughts. All the best!

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Postby Authoritaria-Imperia » Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:54 pm

This is an interesting idea, but I'm not convinced that these special-edition cards would effectively take the place of normally-generated cards. I can't speak for everyone else, but if I were making a collection of older cards, I wouldn't be content with "special edition" versions; I'd want to get the authentic versions that are more challenging to acquire. And if others feel the same way, as I suspect they will, then this just becomes "add a new type of card to collect". It's a cool proposal in this context, but I'm not convinced it's the best expansion the card game could use. Any "special edition" collections would be over-reliant on the continued activity and charity of the owner, making them potentially impossible to complete.
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Postby Farrakhan » Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:58 pm

Authoritaria-Imperia wrote:This is an interesting idea, but I'm not convinced that these special-edition cards would effectively take the place of normally-generated cards. I can't speak for everyone else, but if I were making a collection of older cards, I wouldn't be content with "special edition" versions; I'd want to get the authentic versions that are more challenging to acquire. And if others feel the same way, as I suspect they will, then this just becomes "add a new type of card to collect". It's a cool proposal in this context, but I'm not convinced it's the best expansion the card game could use. Any "special edition" collections would be over-reliant on the continued activity and charity of the owner, making them potentially impossible to complete.


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Postby Ioavollr » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:16 pm

I see no downsides. It might not completely alleviate the scarcity and some (like Noah) may be dissatisfied, but there is also potential for people to show off vast collections of special edition cards which would be given freely and only through friendship (or as a reward, or whatever). I think it's a great idea.

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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:13 pm

Ioavollr wrote:I see no downsides. It might not completely alleviate the scarcity and some (like Noah) may be dissatisfied, but there is also potential for people to show off vast collections of special edition cards which would be given freely and only through friendship (or as a reward, or whatever). I think it's a great idea.

Seconded, though I think there should be some limit on how many are in circulation (giving your card out to everyone would be a bit much and we wanna keep it special). Maybe the owner gets 15 or so that return to them if the user it's gifted to CTEs?
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Postby Farrakhan » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:37 pm

Ioavollr wrote:I see no downsides. It might not completely alleviate the scarcity and some (like Noah) may be dissatisfied, but there is also potential for people to show off vast collections of special edition cards which would be given freely and only through friendship (or as a reward, or whatever). I think it's a great idea.


Thank you for your thoughts Ioavollr. Regarding players using their SE Cards as rewards, I think this could open up new areas of creative latitude that aren't practical under the current system.  Those who don't actively trade (and may not otherwise ever possess a single copy of their own card) but who have other passions within NS (ie. WA, R/D, Sports) could repurpose them toward something that is relevant to their interests. Novelty uses could help to make Trading Cards a practical value for a broader subsection of the community as a whole.
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Postby Farrakhan » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:40 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
Ioavollr wrote:I see no downsides. It might not completely alleviate the scarcity and some (like Noah) may be dissatisfied, but there is also potential for people to show off vast collections of special edition cards which would be given freely and only through friendship (or as a reward, or whatever). I think it's a great idea.

Seconded, though I think there should be some limit on how many are in circulation (giving your card out to everyone would be a bit much and we wanna keep it special). Maybe the owner gets 15 or so that return to them if the user it's gifted to CTEs?


Thank you for sharing your thoughts Alcala-Cordel. It's an interesting conundrum. If each player's account could generate their own SE cards by fiat (like a Central Bank can print/digitize sovereign currency at will) it could minimize future scarcity issues, with the trade-off of certain SEs possibly becoming ubiquitous (and thus less special). If a trigger was put in place to limit SE card production (ie. tied to issue answering, an imposed time delay, a set distribution limit per player, etc) SE cards would become more exceptional, but it would be brought about by reintroducing the scarcity issues SE cards were designed to circumvent! Zugzwang?

I'd lean more toward favoring the latter (leaving it in the hands of each player to self-regulate) but the issue is valid. Whether either result would be more preferable is in the eye of the beholder. 
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