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The EPIC Cardlympics Open To ALL! #9

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The EPIC Cardlympics Open To ALL! #9

Postby 9003 » Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:53 pm

Calling everyone big and small, I don't care if your big farma or a little guy, a scripter, a grifter, or a shifter. This months games are for you!


First the boring stuff like rules and sign up

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[b]Main Nation: [nation][/nation][/b]
[b]Puppet 1:[nation][/nation][/b]
[b]Puppet 2:[nation][/nation][/b]
[b]Puppet 3:[nation][/nation][/b]
[b]Puppet 4:[nation][/nation][/b]
[b]Puppet 5:[nation][/nation][/b]
[b]Puppet 6:[nation][/nation][/b]
[b]Puppet 7:[nation][/nation][/b]
[b]Puppet 8:[nation][/nation][/b]
[b]Puppet 9:[nation][/nation][/b]
[b]Puppet 10:[nation][/nation][/b]

[b]What is your LEAST favorite number?[/b]


The rules!
1. No outside influence from nations you own/control is allowed to impact your Olympic puppets
This means you can not gift in to them (you can gift out if you would like)
This means no buying or selling from nations you control
This means no hosting pull events with your main for your puppets (you CAN hold a pull event with ONLY the cards on your olympic puppets bank/cards)
This means you can not "block" bids, with a non-Olympic nation, you are more then welcome to bid on everything that another player has bid on with ONLY your Olympic puppets.
This means no bank transfers in.
This list is not fully inclusive but rather a list of some examples of what is against the rules.

2. No asks for more than 30 bank.
The logic behind this rule is to limit the amount of luck involved in winning and rather be testing players skills at using non standard ways to make more bank, such as flipping cards, finding the best market, and getting more creative then just opening packs and junking cards.
If a card is being sold at 30 and someone up bids it past 30 that is okay but remember you can not use outside nations to up the price. (you can use your own puppets however if they have the bank but you can not set an ask above 30)
If you get a really good legendary card that you do not want to sell because it is way above 30 hold on to it till after the games or gift it out.

3. Good sportsmanship
This is key, in the past we have had some issues with certain players being less than friendly. If a player has a long streak of bad sportsmanship I will issue stronger and stronger punishment ending with being permanently banned from the games.

4. Players can only win 1 category
Well duh because you can only be first you can't be first AND second :P


Prizes and what are we collecting today!
The winner of the 9th games will be whomever collects the most Epic cards!

And of course what are the games without prizes!
If you have the most Epic cards at the end of the games you will win not 1 not 2 but 3 legendary cards!
Second place sticking to the number theme will get 2 legendary
and third place will get 1 legendary.

of course this would be to normal and when have I EVER been known to be "normal" I say screw being normal, giving away boat loads of legs is WAY better!

The Wild cards!
Presenting a new way to win just by playing!
Depending on how many people sign up for the Cardlympics I will add an additional lottery style prize with every single person who enters and starts the games will have an equal chance to win it.

1-5 players -> one wild card!
6-10 players -> two wild cards!
11-15 -> here is where the fun happens! If we get more then 11 people signed up I will pull all wildcard lottery draws on the 15th AND the end of the month resulting in double the prizes! and of course three wild cards drawn on the 15th AND the end of the month!
16-20 -> four wild cards drawn on the 15th AND the end of the month!
20+ you can do the math but more wild cards!!!

With that the games are on good luck and happy farming. Go write an epic! wait no collect epics that's what I mean!
(The games end at the start of the last major of the month)
(And starts NOW you may start collecting!)
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Postby The Cosmic Mainframe » Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:49 pm

Due to RL responsibilities I will once again be unable to participate. Hopefully, I can participate again in November...
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Postby -Urashiki- » Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:15 pm

Main Nation: -urashiki-
Puppet 1:ItsMeMomo9
Puppet 2:Itsmemomo8
Puppet 3:Itsmemomo7
Puppet 4:Itsmemomo6
Puppet 5:Itsmemomo5
Puppet 6:ItsMeMomo4
Puppet 7:Itsmemomo3
Puppet 8:Itsmemomo2
Puppet 9:Itsmemomo1
Puppet 10:itsmemomo

69 is my least favorite number
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Postby Japanese Beetles » Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:29 pm

Main Nation: Japanese Beetles / Fauzjhia
Puppet 1:Blood Dung Beetle
Puppet 2:Darklight Dung Beetle
Puppet 3:Earth Dung Beetle
Puppet 4:Fire Dung Beetle
Puppet 5:Gold Dung Beetle
Puppet 6:Legendary Dung Beetle
Puppet 7:Lost Dung Beetle
Puppet 8:Mythical Dung Beetle
Puppet 9:Water Dung Beetle
Puppet 10:Wind Dung Beetle


same team. no reason to change.
all of them are cleaned. and we used the money we gathered to buy a copy of Dark System
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Postby Dr Hooves » Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:52 pm

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Puppet 1:PR Dino Fury
Puppet 2:Carulia
Puppet 3:Catradora-
Puppet 4:Lumity
Puppet 5:Jerza
Puppet 6:MiroSan
Puppet 7:Rayllum
Puppet 8:NezuShi
Puppet 9:Victuuri-
Puppet 10:Wickling

What is your LEAST favorite number? 4

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Postby 9003 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:07 am

Japanese Beetles wrote:Main Nation: Japanese Beetles
Puppet 1:Blood Dung Beetle
Puppet 2:Darklight Dung Beetle
Puppet 3:Earth Dung Beetle
Puppet 4:Fire Dung Beetle
Puppet 5:Gold Dung Beetle
Puppet 6:Legendary Dung Beetle
Puppet 7:Lost Dung Beetle
Puppet 8:Mythical Dung Beetle
Puppet 9:Water Dung Beetle
Puppet 10:Wind Dung Beetle


same team. no reason to change.
all of them are cleaned. and we used the money we gathered to buy a copy of Dark System


Please make sure to link them it's easier for me to manually count at the end of the games
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Postby Japanese Beetles » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:15 am

9003 wrote:
Japanese Beetles wrote:Main Nation: Japanese Beetles
Puppet 1:Blood Dung Beetle
Puppet 2:Darklight Dung Beetle
Puppet 3:Earth Dung Beetle
Puppet 4:Fire Dung Beetle
Puppet 5:Gold Dung Beetle
Puppet 6:Legendary Dung Beetle
Puppet 7:Lost Dung Beetle
Puppet 8:Mythical Dung Beetle
Puppet 9:Water Dung Beetle
Puppet 10:Wind Dung Beetle


same team. no reason to change.
all of them are cleaned. and we used the money we gathered to buy a copy of Dark System


Please make sure to link them it's easier for me to manually count at the end of the games

Yeah, I copied my beetle's post from the previous games.
so the link did not pass through that copy.

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Postby -Urashiki- » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:33 am

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Postby -Urashiki- » Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:38 am

9003 wrote:
Japanese Beetles wrote:Main Nation: Japanese Beetles
Puppet 1:Blood Dung Beetle
Puppet 2:Darklight Dung Beetle
Puppet 3:Earth Dung Beetle
Puppet 4:Fire Dung Beetle
Puppet 5:Gold Dung Beetle
Puppet 6:Legendary Dung Beetle
Puppet 7:Lost Dung Beetle
Puppet 8:Mythical Dung Beetle
Puppet 9:Water Dung Beetle
Puppet 10:Wind Dung Beetle


same team. no reason to change.
all of them are cleaned. and we used the money we gathered to buy a copy of Dark System


Please make sure to link them it's easier for me to manually count at the end of the games


Wait, we are allowed to use accounts with card points already on them like the beetle puppets?
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Puppet 1:Presidente Tancredo
Puppet 2:Presidente Sarney
Puppet 3:Presidente Collor
Puppet 4:Presidente Itamar
Puppet 5:Presidente FHC
Puppet 6:Presidente Lula
Puppet 7:Presidenta Dilma
Puppet 8:Presidente Temer
Puppet 9:Presidential Standard
Puppet 10:Vice Presidential Standard

What is your LEAST favorite number? 17
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Postby All Wild Things » Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:24 pm

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Puppet 1:Muppet Afghan Hound
Puppet 2:Muppet Announcer
Puppet 3:Muppet Baskerville
Puppet 4:Muppet Behemoth
Puppet 5:Muppet Billy the Bear
Puppet 6:Muppet Black Rooster
Puppet 7:Muppet Bobby Benson
Puppet 8:Muppet Bobby Bensons Baby Band
Puppet 9:Muppet Butch
Puppet 10:Muppet Bust of Beethoven

What is your LEAST favorite number?
Planck's constant
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Postby Riemstagrad » Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:13 pm

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Puppet 1:1974 David Brown 996; Deck
Puppet 1:1967 Schlueter Super 750; Deck
Puppet 1:1930 John Deere GP; Deck
Puppet 1:1961 Lamborghini 2241R; Deck
Puppet 1:1919 Fiat 702; Deck
Puppet 1:1951 Hanomag R45; Deck
Puppet 1:1938 HSCS 44-48 Le Robuste; Deck
Puppet 1:1957 Deutz D25S; Deck
Puppet 1:1939 Lanz Bulldog D7506; Deck
Puppet 1:1965 Massey Ferguson 65; Deck
What is your LEAST favorite number? 15



My plan was to skip this olympics and maybe take a break from cards... but it's epics this month... Now i must participate!
Puppets created, and i added some convenient links to the relevant deck-pages.

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Postby Fauzjhia » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:26 pm

-Urashiki- wrote:
Wait, we are allowed to use accounts with card points already on them like the beetle puppets?


The beetles where cleaned, and transferred all their bank back to the legendary collection er, before the games started.
You can use old puppets to play in the olympics. 9003 said they must be clean, like a newly founded puppet. which they were.
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Postby 9003 » Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:30 pm

-Urashiki- wrote:
9003 wrote:
Please make sure to link them it's easier for me to manually count at the end of the games


Wait, we are allowed to use accounts with card points already on them like the beetle puppets?



It is allowed in special cases, the important part is that you fully clean them off before starting. If there is any question about if they are fully clean or not I will not give you the benefit of the doubt and prefer that you make 10 fresh puppets even if you let the old ones die off.
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Puppet 1:SwordandShield1
Puppet 2:SwordandShield2
Puppet 3:SwordandShield3
Puppet 4:SwordandShield4
Puppet 5:SwordandShield5
Puppet 6:SwordandShield6
Puppet 7:SwordandShield7
Puppet 8:SwordandShield8
Puppet 9:SwordandShield9
Puppet 10:SwordandShield10

What is your LEAST favorite number?
47
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Postby Animu Place » Wed Oct 07, 2020 2:17 pm

Main Nation: animu place
Puppet 1:ab 30
Puppet 2:ab 31
Puppet 3:ab 32
Puppet 4:ab 33
Puppet 5:ab 34
Puppet 6:ab 35
Puppet 7:ab 36
Puppet 8:ab 37
Puppet 9:ab 38
Puppet 10:ab 39

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Postby Riemstagrad » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:15 pm

A quick calculation of the current standings. I'm using Racoda's gold retriever page to calculate Bank + Deck Value of the olympic teams.

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Urashiki   31,87 €
Fauzjia   12,08 €
Dr Hooves   16,87 €
Giovanniland   5,61 €
All wild things   14,89 €
Riemstagrad   2,13 €
Thedairos   17,69 €
animu place   13,16 €

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Postby Fauzjhia » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:11 pm

Yeah, aint doing great once again.
find nothing I can sell.
I,m not surprised by that.
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Postby 9003 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:00 am

-Urashiki- wrote:Main Nation: -urashiki-
Puppet 1:ItsMeMomo9
Puppet 2:Itsmemomo8
Puppet 3:Itsmemomo7
Puppet 4:Itsmemomo6
Puppet 5:Itsmemomo5
Puppet 6:ItsMeMomo4
Puppet 7:Itsmemomo3
Puppet 8:Itsmemomo2
Puppet 9:Itsmemomo1
Puppet 10:itsmemomo

69 is my least favorite number


You have been disqualified from this games on grounds of
Selling to your self
https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/ ... 5/season=2
With intent to cheat the olpmyics

As well as editing your puppets in the games again in an attempt to hide who you are. This do not belong in the sport of the games and as such I am disqualifying you for the reminder of this game.

Momoshiki/Urashiki
If you choose to play again in the games please do so with genuine interest and not malicious intent or willingness to break the rules. The next step is a permanent ban from the games. If you have an issue with this we can discuss it further via TGs as to not clutter this thread up.

Have a wonderful day.

Remember folks! 2 days left before the half way point!
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Postby -Urashiki- » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:49 am

9003 wrote:
-Urashiki- wrote:Main Nation: -urashiki-
Puppet 1:ItsMeMomo9
Puppet 2:Itsmemomo8
Puppet 3:Itsmemomo7
Puppet 4:Itsmemomo6
Puppet 5:Itsmemomo5
Puppet 6:ItsMeMomo4
Puppet 7:Itsmemomo3
Puppet 8:Itsmemomo2
Puppet 9:Itsmemomo1
Puppet 10:itsmemomo

69 is my least favorite number


You have been disqualified from this games on grounds of
Selling to your self
https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/ ... 5/season=2
With intent to cheat the olpmyics

As well as editing your puppets in the games again in an attempt to hide who you are. This do not belong in the sport of the games and as such I am disqualifying you for the reminder of this game.

Momoshiki/Urashiki
If you choose to play again in the games please do so with genuine interest and not malicious intent or willingness to break the rules. The next step is a permanent ban from the games. If you have an issue with this we can discuss it further via TGs as to not clutter this thread up.

Have a wonderful day.

Remember folks! 2 days left before the half way point!

Rip
O h well

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Postby ItsMeMomo4 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:06 pm

9003 wrote:
-Urashiki- wrote:Main Nation: -urashiki-
Puppet 1:ItsMeMomo9
Puppet 2:Itsmemomo8
Puppet 3:Itsmemomo7
Puppet 4:Itsmemomo6
Puppet 5:Itsmemomo5
Puppet 6:ItsMeMomo4
Puppet 7:Itsmemomo3
Puppet 8:Itsmemomo2
Puppet 9:Itsmemomo1
Puppet 10:itsmemomo

69 is my least favorite number


You have been disqualified from this games on grounds of
Selling to your self
https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/ ... 5/season=2
With intent to cheat the olpmyics

As well as editing your puppets in the games again in an attempt to hide who you are. This do not belong in the sport of the games and as such I am disqualifying you for the reminder of this game.

Momoshiki/Urashiki
If you choose to play again in the games please do so with genuine interest and not malicious intent or willingness to break the rules. The next step is a permanent ban from the games. If you have an issue with this we can discuss it further via TGs as to not clutter this thread up.

Have a wonderful day.

Remember folks! 2 days left before the half way point!

For me to intent to cheat I would have to plan and aim to cheat which I did not do. I am not an absolute idiot to think you wouldn’t look at trades it just skipped my mind and of course that’s 100% my fault but I didn’t join with the intent to cheat.

When I changed puppets I wasn’t trying to hide who I was...how does that make any sense? Since I posted it with -urashiki- anyways

I did have genuine interest to enter in the games and I didn’t have malicious intent

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Postby The Cosmic Mainframe » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:11 pm

ItsMeMomo4 wrote:
9003 wrote:
You have been disqualified from this games on grounds of
Selling to your self
https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/ ... 5/season=2
With intent to cheat the olpmyics

As well as editing your puppets in the games again in an attempt to hide who you are. This do not belong in the sport of the games and as such I am disqualifying you for the reminder of this game.

Momoshiki/Urashiki
If you choose to play again in the games please do so with genuine interest and not malicious intent or willingness to break the rules. The next step is a permanent ban from the games. If you have an issue with this we can discuss it further via TGs as to not clutter this thread up.

Have a wonderful day.

Remember folks! 2 days left before the half way point!

For me to intent to cheat I would have to plan and aim to cheat which I did not do. I am not an absolute idiot to think you wouldn’t look at trades it just skipped my mind and of course that’s 100% my fault but I didn’t join with the intent to cheat.

When I changed puppets I wasn’t trying to hide who I was...how does that make any sense? Since I posted it with -urashiki- anyways

I did have genuine interest to enter in the games and I didn’t have malicious intent

I think that was referring to when you edited your post to switch from the BloodForTheBloodKing* puppet series to the ItsMeMomo* puppet series.
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Postby ItsMeMomo4 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:16 pm

The Cosmic Mainframe wrote:
ItsMeMomo4 wrote:For me to intent to cheat I would have to plan and aim to cheat which I did not do. I am not an absolute idiot to think you wouldn’t look at trades it just skipped my mind and of course that’s 100% my fault but I didn’t join with the intent to cheat.

When I changed puppets I wasn’t trying to hide who I was...how does that make any sense? Since I posted it with -urashiki- anyways

I did have genuine interest to enter in the games and I didn’t have malicious intent

I think that was referring to when you edited your post to switch from the BloodForTheBloodKing* puppet series to the ItsMeMomo* puppet series.

But how is changing puppets me hiding who I am?

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Postby The Cosmic Mainframe » Wed Oct 14, 2020 3:21 pm

ItsMeMomo4 wrote:
The Cosmic Mainframe wrote:I think that was referring to when you edited your post to switch from the BloodForTheBloodKing* puppet series to the ItsMeMomo* puppet series.

But how is changing puppets me hiding who I am?

You were hiding your original puppets, and the fact that you had cheated by switching to puppets that had cards and bank on them in the middle of the Olympics.
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