NS Cards: Permanent Feature Update

[Die Erworbenen Namen]

Max and mods go through it by hand, clearly.

[Frisbeeteria]

Max and mods go through it by hand, clearly.

Max and the mods use a lovely algorithm that does all the work, thanks very much. And no, I'm not sharing it. A number of people have made reasonable guesses, but I'm not going to tell you who was close and who was wide of the mark.

[Arasaelia]

I understand the reasoning for deleting Ex-Nation cards in the future, however I think it would be VERY nice if nations who received Ex-Nation cards during the first Card Game could be able to keep their cards. I am a huge supporter of this because as it turns out, I have the only Legendary Ex-Nation card in existence to my knowledge, and I would HATE for it to be deleted. It is the most unique card in my opinion. So please let us keep our Ex-Nation cards but not include them to be found later on. Here is my Ex-Nation Legendary card. I don't want it deleted, and if you had it, neither would you. So please don't let it be deleted! https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/card=18072

[Galactic Furs]

Why not something based in some sort of reality of trade of resources? As in NS2 had a whole economy based on such - they could be assigned to nations in what ever way the cards are. Thus, would need to collect all the needed resources - this would reduce chance of using puppet nations - as it would take effort to figure what way the resources distribute.

Realistic, don't expect you go this route, since it adds reality, and likely difficulties of a new method of distribution that determines nation resource.

[Luna Amore]

I understand the reasoning for deleting Ex-Nation cards in the future, however I think it would be VERY nice if nations who received Ex-Nation cards during the first Card Game could be able to keep their cards. I am a huge supporter of this because as it turns out, I have the only Legendary Ex-Nation card in existence to my knowledge, and I would HATE for it to be deleted. It is the most unique card in my opinion. So please let us keep our Ex-Nation cards but not include them to be found later on. Here is my Ex-Nation Legendary card. I don't want it deleted, and if you had it, neither would you. So please don't let it be deleted! https://www.nationstates.net/page=deck/card=18072

I don’t think anyone has talked about taking away your ex-nation cards. The change would prevent you from drawing an ex-nation card.

Any card could potentially be an ex-nation in time.

[Frisbeeteria]

Any card could potentially be an ex-nation in time.

Not mine. I've been given the serum. I'm never leaving.

[The Corparation]

Max and mods go through it by hand, clearly.

Max and the mods use a lovely algorithm that does all the work, thanks very much. And no, I'm not sharing it. A number of people have made reasonable guesses, but I'm not going to tell you who was close and who was wide of the mark.

Its okay to come clean, we all know your algorithm was to let some of the server hamsters run free in a back up of the data base and a nation's rarity was determined based on how many server hamsters had chewed on it at the end of the day. Frankly I think it's a bit irresponsible of you guys. The techies should know better than to let server hamsters have access to so much data at once, it causes them to gorge themselves which slows down the servers.

[Wolfhawk]

honestly I just want my nations card

[Server Hamsters]

Its okay to come clean, we all know your algorithm was to let some of the server hamsters run free in a back up of the data base and a nation's rarity was determined based on how many server hamsters had chewed on it at the end of the day. Frankly I think it's a bit irresponsible of you guys. The techies should know better than to let server hamsters have access to so much data at once, it causes them to gorge themselves which slows down the servers.

Base libel. Our diet is nothing more or less than Red Bull and Doritos.

Those cards taste flat. They are flat, come to think of it.

[No Worries]

One loot box per nation every 48 hours

By design, there are 4 issues per 24hs, thus, either one loot box of 4 cards every 24hs or 8 cards every 48hs. I don't understand this rush to have it all as soon as possibile. NS is long-term game, so either you stay long and slowly collect the cards, or you are here for short-term thus cards are irrelevant for you.

[Khanatah]

Would be interesting if the the card concept was somehow combined with the challenge battle system...

*one-lines a suggestion that'd probably take a month to implement*

[Blab]

. . . <snip> . . . One example might look like this:

Just an example...

• Sunday: All Nations get a Loot Box
  
• Tuesday: All Nations Supporter Level or Higher get a Loot Box
  
• Thursday: All WA Nations get a Loot Box
  
• Saturday: Selective Loot Box day - "All nations >2 billion pop" or perhaps A randomly selected criteria that changes on a weekly basis to reward different nations with a bonus loot box-

. . . <snip> . . .

First, I want to thank all those who made this wonderful event possible. It was a lot of coding and it worked really well for a first time trial. I had a blast.

Although I developed an addiction to the cards game I think part of its charm was the novelty. I think it should be limited to an annual week long event [jk](please, not around USA tax time as it was this year)[/jk] with trading allowed during the times that new packs aren't being released. *ducks all the stones being thrown by fellow addicts* However, if the decision is made to continue the game year round, I vote for the schedule listed in the quote but instead of 4 deck drops weekly, each deck drop is one week apart: 1st week - all nations; 2nd week- site supporters, etc.

In defense of us non-WA folk, I struggled with the issues to get all 27 WA types in my puppets before Qaalochoura posted the key and I don't want any of them changed by WA resolutions so please don't use that as a requirement to get more decks.

In defense of puppets, by the time I looked up from collecting regional cards and started looking for some of my former region-mates and long lost mods, they were priced so high, even if I junked my entire deck, I couldn't have paid for them without help from my puppets. Some of us weren't trying to game the system -- we were just trying to get enough bank to afford "photos" from our past (pre-2005). I also used some puppet nations as sorters for certain types of cards.

Thanks for letting us know how the ex-nation cards were derived since I searched long and hard for Citizania, Neutered Sputniks, The Most Glorious Hack, Lobistica, to name a few; I don't feel so bad for failing to find them, now.

Finally, I still pour over my deck. It's like National Geographic -- taking a trip around the world without leaving your armchair. So many regions I'd never heard of and so many nations with wonderful flags! THANKS, NS coders, [violet] and Max!!!

[Celledora]

I think that the idea to help stop puppet farming is good, it's really unfair because some people don't have puppets and don't need them.

[No Worries]

If there is deck size limit, what will be the limit and what will happen to those who have cards over the limit?

[Avalon]

If there is deck size limit, what will be the limit and what will happen to those who have cards over the limit?

I'm curious as well, but I really, really like the idea of a deck size limit.

[The Frozen Forest]

Have to say i'm HIGHLY against the idea of a Deck-Size limit. What if my goal was specifically to gather as many (X) Cards as possible, and i would have to exceed the limit for whatever reason? Do i have to resort to putting them in a puppet deck to make it work? It seems impractical and limiting.

[Night Furia]

I wish the card decks could be open again

[Freed Vale]

Liking the idea.

Not liking the puppets. The only reason I had three other nations was just for aesthetic, but I'm not even active on them, so let their impending doomsday fall upon them like the hammer of Thor! (or whatever you believe in. I don't care. I just did the reference.)

So fix it like so:
Make it to where if its an alternate linked to the same email, the oldest, non-ex-nation gets to collect cards. This requires email verification, yes, but it makes it worth it. Do the same with nations with the same or relatively same passwords.

[DrBozoralf]

How about someone creates a feature of a customizable map for your country and have it work with your region. I've always wanted to design my borders and it could be turned into a basis for creating virtual territory and deciding were major cities could be placed and etc.

[Frisbeeteria]

Make it to where if its an alternate linked to the same email, the oldest, non-ex-nation gets to collect cards.

Not technically possible at this point.

How about someone creates a feature of a customizable map

This forum is all about the collectible card game. Maps have nothing to do with that. Go look around Factbooks and National Information for roleplay stuff like maps.

[Castelos]

I must say, with the anticipation of the update, I feel the longer we wait, the better the game will surely be, i'd rather wait longer than compromise on the games overall success and it becoming just a wet dream to be forgotten about.

[Gallifrey Trenzalore]

In regard to the dilemma of puppet farms ...

What if ...
Each player could have exactly 1 nation either in the WA or on the list of WA eligible nonmembers. The practical outcome would be as if the WA had 2 chambers, 1 that works like now and 1 that has no impact other than allowing you a designated main nation.

Then, for games, you could limit participation to nations that are on 1 list or the other.

[Frisbeeteria]

What if ...

Something like that has been proposed multiple times in Technical. It's not on the agenda at the moment, though some other ideas may eventually turn up.

People like their puppets and puppetry during events. Realistically, that's not going away anytime soon.

[Belltown CSO]

Maybe some of us nations can volunteer to NOT get trading cards, if that would help enhance the game in some way for the majority. I can provide my list of nations so none of them get trading cards, if that helps. I got many nations. but contact me by telegram cuz i'm no good at reading forums plz.

Mahalo

[Krakatue]

How about tying the Loot Box obtaining rate to the Issues rate? Say, you get a new Loot Box every four or six hours?

Either that or make them the way to old issues worked. Like gaining 1 Loot Box at 0700 and 1300 (1:00 pm for those who don't understand a 24-hour clock)