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Australian rePublic
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Postby Australian rePublic » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:50 pm

I'd like the option of folders to organise cards (e.g. me, regionmates, etc.)
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Postby Rivine » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:34 am

I think that this is more than a slight overestimation on how much one can do in one week now.
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Postby Tornado Queendom » Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:43 am

Z-Day has passed, and STILL no cards. I'm getting a feeling that the mods either waste their time making the cards a feature or threw out the idea altogether, neither of which is pleasant for fans of cards.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:54 pm

Tornado Queendom wrote:Z-Day has passed, and STILL no cards.

The Z-day code was already written. It simply needed to be turned on and off.

Tornado Queendom wrote:I'm getting a feeling that the mods either waste their time making the cards a feature

The mods have nothing to do with game code. That's the admins. We have two active, [violet] and Eluvatar. Both are busy IRL. Keeping their families fed and roofs over their heads takes priority over volunteer work on a free web game.

Tornado Queendom wrote:threw out the idea altogether,

[violet] was working on the code and ran into problems that were not easily solved. An ongoing game is very different from a one-off snapshot game. She hasn't had time to address it.


All of these points have been made numerous times in this thread. It's frustrating to have the same complaints show up from people who can't be bothered to read back a page or three. I'm ready to dump this entire forum into the Archives until / unless [v] finds enough time to delve into the issues. I can state with certainty that I'm not going to pressure her to rush the feature out just to satisfy a few malcontent players.

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Postby Luziyca » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:58 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Tornado Queendom wrote:Z-Day has passed, and STILL no cards.

The Z-day code was already written. It simply needed to be turned on and off.

Tornado Queendom wrote:I'm getting a feeling that the mods either waste their time making the cards a feature

The mods have nothing to do with game code. That's the admins. We have two active, [violet] and Eluvatar. Both are busy IRL. Keeping their families fed and roofs over their heads takes priority over volunteer work on a free web game.

Tornado Queendom wrote:threw out the idea altogether,

[violet] was working on the code and ran into problems that were not easily solved. An ongoing game is very different from a one-off snapshot game. She hasn't had time to address it.


All of these points have been made numerous times in this thread. It's frustrating to have the same complaints show up from people who can't be bothered to read back a page or three. I'm ready to dump this entire forum into the Archives until / unless [v] finds enough time to delve into the issues. I can state with certainty that I'm not going to pressure her to rush the feature out just to satisfy a few malcontent players.

I agree with you, Fris on that last point of yours: when we get an announcement from [violet] regarding cards, the matter can be reopened. But until then, it's probably best to archive it.
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Postby [violet] » Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:30 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:I'm ready to dump this entire forum into the Archives until / unless [v] finds enough time to delve into the issues.

I'm very sorry about the delay on this! Real life intervened. Cards will definitely be returning.

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Postby [violet] » Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:38 pm

Unlocking thread as I'm happy to keep an eye on ongoing discussion.

I won't be answering questions about exactly how things will work while it's still in development, but will look at suggestions & comments.

And I can't specify a release date yet, but it's coming!

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Postby Destructive Government Economic System » Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:53 pm

Mmm ok. I'll take a bite and ask a question 'cause the thing's still in development. Keep up the good work y'all:

I remember starting that one thread where I bought hundreds of Ex-Nation cards thanks to the entire NS community

Will those same Ex-Nation cards in my deck still exist after you're finished with re-introducing the card feature?
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Postby [violet] » Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:56 pm

Destructive Government Economic System wrote:Will those same Ex-Nation cards in my deck still exist after you're finished with re-introducing the card feature?

Yep. If you have a Testlandia card and Testlandia ceases to exist, you'll still have the card.

On the other hand, if you have a Testlandia card and YOU cease to exist, then your deck will be destroyed at some point.

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Postby Destructive Government Economic System » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:01 pm

[violet] wrote:
Destructive Government Economic System wrote:Will those same Ex-Nation cards in my deck still exist after you're finished with re-introducing the card feature?

Yep. If you have a Testlandia card and Testlandia ceases to exist, you'll still have the card.

On the other hand, if you have a Testlandia card and YOU cease to exist, then your deck will be destroyed at some point.


All right, thanks for the info!

Was getting a bit anxious because I spent days building up my ghost nation deck lol
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Keshiland literally wrote:I would give it a no. A country that lies about how free, or how great, or how humanitarian it is can never be developed. Example, NK lies and says they are democratic and are not, the US lies and says we are free yet we incarcerate millions for a medical plant. See we are basically a larger more populated North Korea.


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Postby Aenglaland » Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:01 pm

[violet] wrote:And I can't specify a release date yet, but it's coming!

Well this made me smile. Looking forward to this :)
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Postby Likar » Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:25 pm

This still possible?
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Postby Earthbound immortal squad » Mon Dec 10, 2018 8:45 am

It'd be a nice Christmas present from the admin team.

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Sapnu puas
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Postby Sapnu puas » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:39 am

I could see this being an annual thing, however, it couldn't possibly replace April Fools here at NS. It wouldn't make much sense to include it alongside an April Fools event, but having it come back permanently wouldn't work in the long run (unless I'm underestimating it).

Anyone else have specific time span ideas? I can only think of other holidays without events, although the NS anniversary seems more appropriate.
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Postby Mockia » Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:55 am

Sapnu puas wrote:I could see this being an annual thing, however, it couldn't possibly replace April Fools here at NS. It wouldn't make much sense to include it alongside an April Fools event, but having it come back permanently wouldn't work in the long run (unless I'm underestimating it).

Anyone else have specific time span ideas? I can only think of other holidays without events, although the NS anniversary seems more appropriate.

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Postby Mockia » Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:00 pm

[violet] wrote:
Destructive Government Economic System wrote:Will those same Ex-Nation cards in my deck still exist after you're finished with re-introducing the card feature?

Yep. If you have a Testlandia card and Testlandia ceases to exist, you'll still have the card.

On the other hand, if you have a Testlandia card and YOU cease to exist, then your deck will be destroyed at some point.

Well, that will make a LOT of cards rarer.
For players quitting Nationstates, this can cause a liquidation sale of sorts: all of their cards are sold until they leave.

So maybe 5 years can work, as that's the time before a nation's name can be reused.
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Postby Mimi Mimikins » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:00 pm

Yeah, I can't wait.

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