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JEFF Rundown

Postby Souverain Revachol » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:37 pm

Hello, my comrades in JEFF.
I am a new NSer, and this was my first N-Day, which I survived and believe I performed well enough.
New as I am, it is evident that we did not perform to our maximum capability. I cannot help but notice this has generated some discourse on our part that may rightfully be called by the colloquial term “coping”.

The facts of the situation are undeniable: HOTA and KHAN clinched #1 and 2, brought us to #3, dealt extremely significant damage, and made us conduct a faction retreat to save our position.
There is no point in arguing with our opposition about strategy. The simple fact is that they won and we did not. That they simply had more manpower and more coordination in a zero-sum game where numbers and unified direction are the primary determinants of victory is undeniable, but that was a surmountable gap… that we did not bother to surmount.
We can say whatever we want about their admittedly lacking sportsmanship, but in the end, their right to criticize the mass retreat is as legitimate as our rationale for conducting it.

Where exactly did we go wrong?

1. To let HOTA build up shields while we were playing around with KHAN was tragic. We needed to keep HOTA on edge and prevent buildup and we failed- also letting ANAL take combined hits from both factions, which immediately neutered any hope of going on a significant offensive. It was necessary to focus HOTA, especially when they had to be defended by KHAN because of the captcha situation at the beginning of the day. We did not. I also argue that the Fascists did not need to immediately go. If they had just been ignored, it would've irritated them far more than being nuked- which just made them feel self-righteous, and gave us the obvious loss of allowing HOTA and KHAN time to mobilize.

2. With all our diplomatic weight, we could've actually taken the "anti-monopolistic" factions and persuaded them to go against HOTA as a single bloc- the undisputed most monopolized faction to exist. The WCC, RAILGUN, GC, TR, etc. could've done a fair bit of damage had we bothered to coordinate with them, and we could've defended each other mutually. We did not. In the end, these smaller factions presented no unified front to anyone, and were either picked off (MDC, NAR) or carved out a respectable niche (WCC, TR).

Our leadership this year smacked of indirection, lack of planning, and failure to utilize opportunities that were available to us. To complain is pointless. To pound out insults against HOTA is meaningless while they smugly grin in rightfully earned superiority behind their screen. We will beat them next time not because we have the moral high ground, but because we got our shit together.
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Postby Daphomir » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:40 pm

I blame the JEFF leadership the most. I literally spent ten whole minutes screaming at one of them about their decision to shut the faction down, causing the whole damn thing to be wiped out.
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Postby Souverain Revachol » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:42 pm

Daphomir wrote:I blame the JEFF leadership the most. I literally spent ten whole minutes screaming at one of them about their decision to shut the faction down, causing the whole damn thing to be wiped out.

It didn't need to have happened if we didn't colossally sell in the first 4 hours.
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Postby Enzonar » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:42 pm

Jeff attacking khan when hota
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Postby 0cala » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:42 pm

TR had no intentions to nuke HOTA. (btw)

We found that really dumb and basically would ruin us, even if we United with others.

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Postby Total Drama 2 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:42 pm

Nice insightful analysis with JEFF's downfall. Ever planning to be a writer one day?
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Postby Souverain Revachol » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:44 pm

0cala wrote:TR had no intentions to nuke HOTA. (btw)

We found that really dumb and basically would ruin us, even if we United with others.

Understandable, but I am positing that you would've answered differently had 7 other mid-sized factions been with you as a bloc.

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Postby Souverain Revachol » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:44 pm

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Postby ARIsyan- » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:44 pm

The leadership really let us down in all honesty. we had the chance to win first place but instead they decided to keep attacking KHAN when Horsemen was quickly charging up for an all out assault and gaining ground. We managed to have 0% radiation for hours, so we had very good odds of winning or at least getting second place until they made som really poor decisions such as attacking a faction in the negatives and shielding ANAL which didn't even have a NAP with us.
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Postby Total Drama 2 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:45 pm

Souverain Revachol wrote:
0cala wrote:TR had no intentions to nuke HOTA. (btw)

We found that really dumb and basically would ruin us, even if we United with others.

Understandable, but I am positing that you would've answered differently had 7 other mid-sized factions been with you as a bloc.

You double post this btw lol. :lol2:

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Postby Souverain Revachol » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:45 pm

Total Drama 2 wrote:Nice insightful analysis with JEFF's downfall. Planning to be a writer one day?

I have no idea if you're beating sarcastic. In any case, all this was evident to those in the server.

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Postby Spyri » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:46 pm

0cala wrote:TR had no intentions to nuke HOTA. (btw)

We found that really dumb and basically would ruin us, even if we United with others.

i don't get how 90% of the site manages to work together to destroy the fascists' but seemingly just can't get it together for HOTA
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Postby Total Drama 2 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:46 pm

Souverain Revachol wrote:
Total Drama 2 wrote:Nice insightful analysis with JEFF's downfall. Planning to be a writer one day?

I have no idea if you're beating sarcastic. In any case, all this was evident to those in the server.

Nah, I being for real.

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Postby Opiachus » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:47 pm

In terms of point #2, I am hopeful that the next N-day, if a megafaction starts to run away with things that there will be an easier time trying to contain them with inter-faction action, because nobody really wants to repeat the second half of this N-day where nobody could get nukes launched without getting shot down by HOTA shield spam, factions had to empty out due to overwhelming HOTA attack, etc.; somebody just has to be the first mover and do the legwork to convince factions to cooperate if a megafaction starts to run away with things.
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Postby Souverain Revachol » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:47 pm

Spyri wrote:
0cala wrote:TR had no intentions to nuke HOTA. (btw)

We found that really dumb and basically would ruin us, even if we United with others.

i don't get how 90% of the site manages to work together to destroy the fascists' but seemingly just can't get it together for HOTA

Indeed. For all our so-called diplomatic prowess...
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Postby ARIsyan- » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:48 pm

what also concerned me and greatly ticked me off was the fact that HOTA members were shielding Fascist Solidarity Accord members.
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Postby 0cala » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:48 pm

Souverain Revachol wrote:
0cala wrote:TR had no intentions to nuke HOTA. (btw)

We found that really dumb and basically would ruin us, even if we United with others.

Understandable, but I am positing that you would've answered differently had 7 other mid-sized factions been with you as a bloc.

Ehh, I wouldn't still command it to happen.
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0cala wrote:TR had no intentions to nuke HOTA. (btw)

We found that really dumb and basically would ruin us, even if we United with others.

i don't get how 90% of the site manages to work together to destroy the fascists' but seemingly just can't get it together for HOTA

fascism bad piracy good

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Postby Total Drama 2 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:49 pm

ARIsyan- wrote:what also concerned me and greatly ticked me off was the fact that HOTA members were shielding Fascist Solidarity Accord members.

Likely since HOTA put some of their puppets in the fascist faction.

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Postby Opiachus » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:49 pm

Souverain Revachol wrote:
0cala wrote:TR had no intentions to nuke HOTA. (btw)

We found that really dumb and basically would ruin us, even if we United with others.

Understandable, but I am positing that you would've answered differently had 7 other mid-sized factions been with you as a bloc.

In the later stages (after JEFF closed) it would have required more than 7 other factions in a bloc, maybe 11, so the sooner the call for help goes out the better.
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Postby Souverain Revachol » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:51 pm

Opiachus wrote:
Souverain Revachol wrote:Understandable, but I am positing that you would've answered differently had 7 other mid-sized factions been with you as a bloc.

In the later stages (after JEFF closed) it would have required more than 7 other factions in a bloc, maybe 11, so the sooner the call for help goes out the better.

If #1 was avoided, we would not have needed to close.

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Postby Total Drama 2 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:54 pm

Souverain Revachol wrote:
Opiachus wrote:In the later stages (after JEFF closed) it would have required more than 7 other factions in a bloc, maybe 11, so the sooner the call for help goes out the better.

If #1 was avoided, we would not have needed to close.

Hey, you didn't answer my serious question. Are you planning to be a writer?

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Postby Opiachus » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:57 pm

0cala wrote:Ehh, I wouldn't still command it to happen.

But you would command something else instead, and I can only assume it would be to command an attack on another non-megafaction... maybe one preoccupied in a joint effort to contain a megafaction... what I'd say to that is that I'd hope the joint effort targets your faction next in that case
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Postby Souverain Revachol » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:57 pm

Total Drama 2 wrote:
Souverain Revachol wrote:If #1 was avoided, we would not have needed to close.

Hey, you didn't answer my serious question. Are you planning to be a writer?

I think I am a writer... :blink:

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Postby 0cala » Sun Sep 29, 2024 6:59 pm

Opiachus wrote:
0cala wrote:Ehh, I wouldn't still command it to happen.

But you would command something else instead, and I can only assume it would be to command an attack on another non-megafaction... maybe one preoccupied in a joint effort to contain a megafaction... what I'd say to that is that I'd hope the joint effort targets your faction next in that case

I command antifa missions dude.

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Postby Spyri » Sun Sep 29, 2024 7:03 pm

0cala wrote:
Opiachus wrote:But you would command something else instead, and I can only assume it would be to command an attack on another non-megafaction... maybe one preoccupied in a joint effort to contain a megafaction... what I'd say to that is that I'd hope the joint effort targets your faction next in that case

I command antifa missions dude.

Genuinely curious as I’ve been out of R/D for like 10 years - but I can’t imagine the skills of organising an operation transfer that great to running a 24 hour active event? Or am I mistaken?
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Enemies change along with the times, and the flow of the ages.
So then what is an enemy?
Is there such thing as an absolute timeless enemy? There is no such thing and never has been.
And the reason is that our enemies are human beings like us.
They can only be our enemies in relative terms."




---------------------------------MAGA Rifty------------------------------------

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