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Lets be real (The Neu Maxia Treaty Organization idea)

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Lets be real (The Neu Maxia Treaty Organization idea)

Postby Sloventa » Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:54 pm

Ok we should have attacked HOTA first at a united might immediately. I think we let them grow and take us over... The the end to monopoly quickly or at least make them struggle. But now they are at the top and all the top 9 either dipped or got wreaked. It fells like we set our selves up for this n-day on the first day, While at that khan it's duoploly.

Who ever is listening... We need to stop fighting each other for a second and attack the duopoly and make them struggle when we have a chance to... We all hate them and want them dead but too scared for a bite...

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Postby Artoznik » Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:56 pm

honestly? yeah
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Postby Limitata » Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:56 pm

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Postby Artoznik » Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:59 pm

HOTA kept shooting down our nukes to any faction for a while, along with Trans Republic.

That was a real stalemate
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Postby Total Drama 2 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:00 pm

Sloventa wrote:Ok we should have attacked HOTA first at a united might immediately. I think we let them grow and take us over... The the end to monopoly quickly or at least make them struggle. But now they are at the top and all the top 9 either dipped or got wreaked. It fells like we set our selves up for this n-day on the first day

Yeah, if there's one thing I could thank the fascists for, it would be for allowing themselves to become the punching bag for the first few hours while HOTA had time to mobilized their forces and waiting for the fash bugs to be dusted off to attack the rest. :rofl:
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Postby Sloventa » Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:01 pm

The fsa was a distraction... The fsa kind off won here... Since they got destroyed and the destroyers let the REAL threats grow. Like a indestructible dragon.
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Postby Artoznik » Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:02 pm

at least we all know everyone hates fascists?
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Postby Kaldon » Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:03 pm

Sloventa wrote:The fsa was a distraction... The fsa kind off won here... Since they got destroyed and the destroyers let the REAL threats grow. Like an indestructible dragon.

Do not give them any credit. It was just disorganisation. HOTA will always rule unless megafactions are nerfed to the ground, so what actually matters is the second or third spot.
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Postby Sloventa » Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:07 pm

I don't want to give them credit I'm being real here... And They don't get much credit to begin with. We should have went blitzkrieg on the real threats instead of going for a absolute joke punching bag first...
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Postby Total Drama 2 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:13 pm

Sloventa wrote:I don't want to give them credit I'm being real here... And They don't get much credit to begin with. We should have went blitzkrieg on the real threats instead of going for a absolute joke punching bag first...

The fascists still deserved to get absolutely roasted to shreds.

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Postby Kostane » Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:16 pm

Total Drama 2 wrote:
Sloventa wrote:I don't want to give them credit I'm being real here... And They don't get much credit to begin with. We should have went blitzkrieg on the real threats instead of going for a absolute joke punching bag first...

The fascists still deserved to get absolutely roasted to shreds.

If people had just ignored them it would be their worse possible scenario. Maybe put shields on all of their attacks, but nuking them just makes them feel self-righteous with the added loss of giving mega-factions time to mobilize.
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Postby Total Drama 2 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:18 pm

Kostane wrote:
Total Drama 2 wrote:The fascists still deserved to get absolutely roasted to shreds.

If people had just ignored them it would be their worse possible scenario. Maybe put shields on all of their attacks, but nuking them just makes them feel self-righteous with the added loss of giving mega-factions time to mobilize.

Well, at least HOTA is having a blast at the top so it's not all bad.

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Postby Kostane » Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:20 pm

Total Drama 2 wrote:
Kostane wrote:If people had just ignored them it would be their worse possible scenario. Maybe put shields on all of their attacks, but nuking them just makes them feel self-righteous with the added loss of giving mega-factions time to mobilize.

Well, at least HOTA is having a blast at the top so it's not all bad.

Being at the top by that much is boring for everyone involved.
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Postby Total Drama 2 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:22 pm

Kostane wrote:
Total Drama 2 wrote:Well, at least HOTA is having a blast at the top so it's not all bad.

Being at the top by that much is boring for everyone involved.

Not for me it ain't since I'm having the time of my life.

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Postby The Onigiri Enclave » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:19 pm

Oddly, without asking for it, and we still thank them for it, but the Horsemen went out of their way to protect my faction, $99 Panasonic Blu-Ray, for quite a while during this N-Day from the Starlight Brigade and Grand Coalition. Meanwhile, the factions that were supposedly supposed to be the "anti-megafaction" factions, the Grand Coalition and Yggdrasil Security Coalition, came after me, a region that, until the last four hours, had only 4 nations in the faction (getting a surprise fifth member in the final couple of hours that was also nuked down by Deadline Dodgers) and focused on fighting roughly equal powered factions, so I won't say anything bad about HOTA. They had our back without us asking for their help.
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Postby Ancientania » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:23 pm

The Onigiri Enclave wrote:Oddly, without asking for it, and we still thank them for it, but the Horsemen went out of their way to protect my faction, $99 Panasonic Blu-Ray, for quite a while during this N-Day from the Starlight Brigade and Grand Coalition. Meanwhile, the factions that were supposedly supposed to be the "anti-megafaction" factions, the Grand Coalition and Yggdrasil Security Coalition, came after me, a region that, until the last four hours, had only 4 nations in the faction (getting a surprise fifth member in the final couple of hours that was also nuked down by Deadline Dodgers) and focused on fighting roughly equal powered factions, so I won't say anything bad about HOTA. They had our back without us asking for their help.

I find the anti-megafations really hypocritical as well. "If you can't beat em, join em"
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Postby Unitria15 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:29 pm

Total Drama 2 wrote:
Kostane wrote:Being at the top by that much is boring for everyone involved.

Not for me it ain't since I'm having the time of my life.

Fun for me and not for thee is how games disappear, so no, I think I'd like to have some serious competition before everything else becomes HOTA's punching bag and alienates what little goodwill is left for N-Day. Have fun nuking people to oblivion when everyone who knows better just packs up and goes to do regular Nationstates things.

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Before anyone comes in here saying I don't support megafactions obviously being the smart choice in a nuclear war, they are. Lets just not pretend HOTA did anything extraordinary in winning as if there's an even playing ground determined by skill and gameplay, it's simple numbers and a zero-sum game. HOTA being the largest faction bullies everyone else into not having agency by simple numbers.
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Postby Total Drama 2 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:33 pm

The Onigiri Enclave wrote:Oddly, without asking for it, and we still thank them for it, but the Horsemen went out of their way to protect my faction, $99 Panasonic Blu-Ray, for quite a while during this N-Day from the Starlight Brigade and Grand Coalition. Meanwhile, the factions that were supposedly supposed to be the "anti-megafaction" factions, the Grand Coalition and Yggdrasil Security Coalition, came after me, a region that, until the last four hours, had only 4 nations in the faction (getting a surprise fifth member in the final couple of hours that was also nuked down by Deadline Dodgers) and focused on fighting roughly equal powered factions, so I won't say anything bad about HOTA. They had our back without us asking for their help.

It's like with defenders. They claim to care for justice and native nations but they're only want the glory and lead more destruction to most raided regions they touch from the "malicious" raiders. Nice to see you had a good time and if you want, you can join HOTA next N-Day. 8)

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Postby Souverain Revachol » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:41 pm

Total Drama 2 wrote:
The Onigiri Enclave wrote:Oddly, without asking for it, and we still thank them for it, but the Horsemen went out of their way to protect my faction, $99 Panasonic Blu-Ray, for quite a while during this N-Day from the Starlight Brigade and Grand Coalition. Meanwhile, the factions that were supposedly supposed to be the "anti-megafaction" factions, the Grand Coalition and Yggdrasil Security Coalition, came after me, a region that, until the last four hours, had only 4 nations in the faction (getting a surprise fifth member in the final couple of hours that was also nuked down by Deadline Dodgers) and focused on fighting roughly equal powered factions, so I won't say anything bad about HOTA. They had our back without us asking for their help.

It's like with defenders. They claim to care for justice and native nations but they're only want the glory and lead more destruction to most raided regions they touch from the "malicious" raiders. Nice to see you had a good time and if you want, you can join HOTA next N-Day. 8)

...is this a bit or do you genuinely believe you did it out of the kindness of your heart?

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Postby The Dark Aether » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:43 pm

Have to agree most factions should united to bring the HOTA down a peg
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Postby Spyri » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:43 pm

Total Drama 2 wrote:
The Onigiri Enclave wrote:Oddly, without asking for it, and we still thank them for it, but the Horsemen went out of their way to protect my faction, $99 Panasonic Blu-Ray, for quite a while during this N-Day from the Starlight Brigade and Grand Coalition. Meanwhile, the factions that were supposedly supposed to be the "anti-megafaction" factions, the Grand Coalition and Yggdrasil Security Coalition, came after me, a region that, until the last four hours, had only 4 nations in the faction (getting a surprise fifth member in the final couple of hours that was also nuked down by Deadline Dodgers) and focused on fighting roughly equal powered factions, so I won't say anything bad about HOTA. They had our back without us asking for their help.

It's like with defenders. They claim to care for justice and native nations but they're only want the glory and lead more destruction to most raided regions they touch from the "malicious" raiders. Nice to see you had a good time and if you want, you can join HOTA next N-Day. 8)

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Postby Enzonar » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:44 pm

Nukes are much easier to make why did you guys just let the build shields and not keep wasting them
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