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Simone Republic
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Founded: Jul 09, 2019
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Postby Simone Republic » Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:12 am

Just in case this comes up (not that it seems likely), I decline any nominations.

Edit: echo what AS said below.
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The Overmind
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Authoritarian Democracy

Postby The Overmind » Thu Sep 05, 2024 3:03 am

Bisofeyr wrote:On my phone during a layover currently, so bear with me.

I understand the criticism against me for being too new; I am certainly less experienced than several of the frontrunners. I think the bigger challenge has to do with time commitment; I have just departed on a trip to “study abroad” which will last a little over three months, and I intend to make the most of it. That is, not spend time on NS where not strictly necessary. The timing of this means that it is difficult for me to accept the nomination without mentioning this.

However, I do feel confident in my ability to do the job if GenSec deems me the right choice. In the meantime, though, I’d put my weight behind the nomination of Haymarket, who has shown to have an aptitude for common-sense legality opinions. Other good options include Tinfect, Overmind, and of course Wallenburg, and as such I would nominate all of those individuals.

tldr: i dont think i’m a good candidate at this time but i do tentatively accept my nomination and will work with gensec through the process

I appreciate that! However, I decline at this time.
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Second Sovereignty
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Postby Second Sovereignty » Thu Sep 05, 2024 3:51 am

Bisofeyr wrote:Other good options include Tinfect [...] and as such I would nominate all of those individuals.


OOC:
As much as I would like to accept the nomination, I'm simply not likely to be active enough these days to be of much use on GenSec. I must decline.
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Namwenia
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Postby Namwenia » Thu Sep 05, 2024 12:11 pm

I nominate Wallenberg and Tinhampton
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Elyreia
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Postby Elyreia » Thu Sep 05, 2024 12:27 pm

I'll continue to withhold nominations until I know who can take them.

The exception being seconding Wallenberg as I have for a while now, since they have accepted the nomination.
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Postby Yelda » Thu Sep 05, 2024 12:49 pm

Bisofeyr wrote:Overmind


Honestly, this makes sense. He knows the rules and he's active. I'll second the nomination even though I can't stand him.
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Untecna
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Postby Untecna » Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:02 pm

As with last time, Wallenburg.
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Postby Kinqueven » Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:04 pm

I am nominating Topid. It's just logical
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Greater North-America
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Postby Greater North-America » Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:05 pm

I nominate Wallenburg. If Wally is still considered persona non grata, I nominate Elyreia.
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The Overmind
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Postby The Overmind » Thu Sep 05, 2024 2:14 pm

Yelda wrote:
Bisofeyr wrote:Overmind


Honestly, this makes sense. He knows the rules and he's active. I'll second the nomination even though I can't stand him.

I appreciate the grudging respect. Unfortunately, I must still decline
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Postby Attempted Socialism » Thu Sep 05, 2024 3:46 pm

I second the nomination of Wallwnburg.

Editing to add that Sierra Lyricalia, if they want to return, would also be a good pick.

In addition, since there is some discussion of whether some gatekeeping of the GenSec is valid, I repost my comments on the topic of who makes a good GenSec member.
Attempted Socialism wrote:To blatantly piggy-bag on Bears, I will note that GenSec aren't chosen for their legislative prowess or enthusiasm, but rather their ability to adjudicate and develop the rules in a way that promotes engagement while not disrupting established precedent too much. Ability to write legal resolutions is not the same as ability to adjudicate and develop the rules. I would prefer new GenSec members to be clearly invested in the rules, whether as proponent or opponent of specific rules and rulings. This means placing emphasis on their activity when it concerns legality in drafts and in challenges, rather than how many resolutions or drafts they have authored. With that in mind, I think some diligence is due for the people who nominate: Would you trust your nominee to interpret, help with, adjudicate, and develop, the rule-set, in an impartial and engaging manner? What evidence can you point to, if you should convince someone who knows nothing of your nominee that this is the case? If you search the GA forum for a player name and "challenge" or "legality", what comes up?
As such there are several nominees who could be considered nominated for the wrong reasons; The number of resolutions they have gotten passed, the number of drafts they have posted, or how popular they are in general. A legislative record, enthusiasm for the game, or likability, are generally good, admirable traits, but they are not, on their own, qualifying for GenSec. Nice to have, not need to have, in other words.
With that in mind, I will support Wallenburg's nomination. Wallenburg is sometimes direct (At times bordering on abrasive), but they honestly and diligently engage with the rules, and their command of the rules, precedent, and already-passed legislation is impressive. They're able to both work within the existing rule-set and challenge rules or rulings based on the effects they will have on the game. And I believe they're able to deal fairly and impartially in challenges.
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Postby Elyreia » Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:54 pm

Greater North-America wrote:I nominate Wallenburg. If Wally is still considered persona non grata, I nominate Elyreia.


I have willingness and time but less confidence about my ability to interpret rules and law, especially given how I've only done one resolution to quorum, and no legality challenges of any sort.
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The Ice States
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Postby The Ice States » Thu Sep 05, 2024 9:57 pm

Elyreia wrote:
Greater North-America wrote:I nominate Wallenburg. If Wally is still considered persona non grata, I nominate Elyreia.


I have willingness and time but less confidence about my ability to interpret rules and law, especially given how I've only done one resolution to quorum, and no legality challenges of any sort.

To confirm, is this an acceptance of the nomination such that you are fine with being considered by Gensec for the role?
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Postby Elyreia » Thu Sep 05, 2024 10:02 pm

The Ice States wrote:
Elyreia wrote:
I have willingness and time but less confidence about my ability to interpret rules and law, especially given how I've only done one resolution to quorum, and no legality challenges of any sort.

To confirm, is this an acceptance of the nomination such that you are fine with being considered by Gensec for the role?


I will accept the nomination. Worst that happens is I don't get it.
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Tinhampton
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Postby Tinhampton » Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:00 pm

Namwenia wrote:I nominate... Tinhampton

I ACCEPT THIS NOMINATION.
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Quintessence of Dust
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Postby Quintessence of Dust » Fri Sep 06, 2024 10:50 am

Nominate Wallenburg.
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Imperium Anglorum
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Fri Sep 06, 2024 2:26 pm

Quintessence of Dust wrote:Nominate Wallenburg.

I nominate Gruenberg.

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Yelda
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Postby Yelda » Fri Sep 06, 2024 7:00 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:What do community members think of this? The main objection internally to moving back to five has been the belief that GenSec with five members is less productive and less active. In light of this year's heavy case load – with 10 cases, where only one actively involved all six members, – does the community believe this to be true?


Some of you are attorneys, right? Just have one of your paralegals deal with GenSec stuff two or three days a week. No need for 6 members! :p
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Imperium Anglorum
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:34 pm

Yelda wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:What do community members think of this? The main objection internally to moving back to five has been the belief that GenSec with five members is less productive and less active. In light of this year's heavy case load – with 10 cases, where only one actively involved all six members, – does the community believe this to be true?

Some of you are attorneys, right? Just have one of your paralegals deal with GenSec stuff two or three days a week. No need for 6 members! :p

I think this hugely overestimates the number of GenSec members that are in positions to tell paralegals what to do with their time. IANAL.

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Varanius
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Postby Varanius » Sat Sep 07, 2024 4:04 pm

Wallenburg wrote:This isn't a popularity contest where we reward players for successfully breaking onto the scene.
Not a popularity contest? Someone should tell your 37th nomination, clearly one should’ve sufficed :P

Big ups for Haymarket Riot of course. Not convinced by the inexperienced complaints given other recent appointments either.
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The Overmind
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Postby The Overmind » Sat Sep 07, 2024 11:45 pm

Varanius wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:This isn't a popularity contest where we reward players for successfully breaking onto the scene.
Not a popularity contest? Someone should tell your 37th nomination, clearly one should’ve sufficed :P

Big ups for Haymarket Riot of course. Not convinced by the inexperienced complaints given other recent appointments either.

You forgot to actually nominate someone, Vara. Unfortunately, snipes don't count.
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Sierra Lyricalia
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Sun Sep 08, 2024 2:54 pm

To the extent that my name is in serious consideration for reinstatement, I politely decline. To the extent that the name of November Lyricalia could be shitpostily bandied about to militate against the most recently released ruling on names of months, this would be quite droll in some other thread, forum, or server.
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Neo-Hermitius
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Postby Neo-Hermitius » Mon Sep 09, 2024 10:23 am

this neo-hermitius fella seems like a good gensec.

but seriously wallenburg should be gensec
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Halsoni
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Postby Halsoni » Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:47 am

I nominate Varanius
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Kinqueven
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Kinqueven » Tue Sep 10, 2024 12:28 pm

I am also nominating Naivetry
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