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Bananaistan
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[CHALLENGE] Freedom Of Opinion And Belief

Postby Bananaistan » Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:42 pm

Public challenge thread

Debate thread

Freedom Of Opinion And Belief
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Civil Rights

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: Tinhampton

Whereas brainwashing is bad and wrong, the General Assembly hereby:

forbids member states from:

criminalising the holding of any opinion, even when the expression of that opinion would constitute a crime,

criminalising the status of possessing or lacking any arbitrary or reductive characteristic, and

requiring any of their inhabitants to affirm, express, retract or reject any opinion or belief, even if those inhabitants sincerely hold those opinions or beliefs,

prohibits the World Assembly and its agents from discriminating against:

any person or group due to their holding (not necessarily expression) of any opinions or beliefs, nor any arbitrary and reductive characteristics they may possess, and

any government due to any of their actions (except where necessary, or otherwise required by resolution, to ensure that said member complies with international law) or their beliefs,

requires members to permit the holding and expression of facts, however inconvenient, by their inhabitants, and

clarifies that no part of this resolution other than Article a(iii) directly regulates the actual expression of opinions or other speech.


This seems open and shut to me. The challenged proposal requires that member states permit the "expression of facts, however inconvenient". GAR#330 explicitly requires member states to prevent the expression of fact in certain cases.

I vote to hear.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sat Aug 07, 2021 12:01 pm

Seconded.

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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:59 pm

Agreed on both "yes there's a case here" and "yes, the challenge is correct."
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Postby Bananaistan » Sun Aug 08, 2021 1:00 am

There's prolly no need to hang around on this?

I vote illegal.
Delegation of the People's Republic of Bananaistan to the World Assembly
Head of delegation and the Permanent Representative: Comrade Ambassador Theodorus "Ted" Hornwood
General Assistant and Head of Security: Comrade Watchman Brian of Tarth
There was the Pope and John F. Kennedy and Jack Charlton and the three of them were staring me in the face.
Ideological Bulwark #281
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Postby Bears Armed » Sun Aug 08, 2021 2:06 pm

Illegal.
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(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Sun Aug 08, 2021 4:57 pm

I'll vote illegal, too.

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Sierra Lyricalia
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:12 pm

That's a majority for Illegal, then.

I already marked it so in the queue. Thankfully no mod discard this time.
Principal-Agent, Anarchy; Squadron Admiral, The Red Fleet
The Semi-Honorable Leonid Berkman Pavonis
Author: 354 GA / Issues 436, 451, 724
Ambassador Pro Tem
Tech Level: Complicated (or not: 7/0/6 i.e. 12) / RP Details
.
Jerk, Ideological Deviant, Roach, MT Army stooge, & "red [who] do[es]n't read" (various)
.
Illustrious Bum #279


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Postby Bananaistan » Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:56 am

The challenged proposal requires that member states permit the "expression of facts, however inconvenient". GAR#330 explicitly requires member states to prevent the expression of fact in certain cases. Thus we find the challenged proposal illegal under the contradiction rule.


Shorter and sweeter but it was straightforward.
Delegation of the People's Republic of Bananaistan to the World Assembly
Head of delegation and the Permanent Representative: Comrade Ambassador Theodorus "Ted" Hornwood
General Assistant and Head of Security: Comrade Watchman Brian of Tarth
There was the Pope and John F. Kennedy and Jack Charlton and the three of them were staring me in the face.
Ideological Bulwark #281
THIS

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Bears Armed
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Postby Bears Armed » Sun Sep 19, 2021 8:24 am

Bananaistan wrote:
The challenged proposal requires that member states permit the "expression of facts, however inconvenient". GAR#330 explicitly requires member states to prevent the expression of fact in certain cases. Thus we find the challenged proposal illegal under the contradiction rule.


Shorter and sweeter but it was straightforward.

I sign.
The Confrederated Clans (and other Confrederated Bodys) of the Free Bears of Bears Armed
(includes The Ursine NorthLands) Demonym = Bear[s]; adjective = ‘Urrsish’.
Population = just under 20 million. Economy = only Thriving. Average Life expectancy = c.60 years. If the nation is classified as 'Anarchy' there still is a [strictly limited] national government... and those aren't "biker gangs", they're traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies', generally respected rather than feared.
Author of some GA Resolutions, via Bears Armed Mission; subject of an SC resolution.
Factbook. We have more than 70 MAPS. Visitors' Guide.
The IDU's WA Drafting Room is open to help you.
Author of issues #429, 712, 729, 934, 1120, 1152, 1474.

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Sierra Lyricalia
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:47 pm

Bears Armed wrote:
Bananaistan wrote:
The challenged proposal requires that member states permit the "expression of facts, however inconvenient". GAR#330 explicitly requires member states to prevent the expression of fact in certain cases. Thus we find the challenged proposal illegal under the contradiction rule.


Shorter and sweeter but it was straightforward.

I sign.


Ditto
Principal-Agent, Anarchy; Squadron Admiral, The Red Fleet
The Semi-Honorable Leonid Berkman Pavonis
Author: 354 GA / Issues 436, 451, 724
Ambassador Pro Tem
Tech Level: Complicated (or not: 7/0/6 i.e. 12) / RP Details
.
Jerk, Ideological Deviant, Roach, MT Army stooge, & "red [who] do[es]n't read" (various)
.
Illustrious Bum #279


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Separatist Peoples
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:11 pm

I forgot but I sign.

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Sierra Lyricalia
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:24 am

Posted.
Principal-Agent, Anarchy; Squadron Admiral, The Red Fleet
The Semi-Honorable Leonid Berkman Pavonis
Author: 354 GA / Issues 436, 451, 724
Ambassador Pro Tem
Tech Level: Complicated (or not: 7/0/6 i.e. 12) / RP Details
.
Jerk, Ideological Deviant, Roach, MT Army stooge, & "red [who] do[es]n't read" (various)
.
Illustrious Bum #279



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