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Finland6
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Postby Finland6 » Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:45 pm

Here In Finland6 Crime is at a all time low we have only had 1 or 2 crimes in this whole year thanks to our police force.

My topic is self defense, If someone is attacked by someone else do they have the right to defend themself?

In Finland6 you have the right to defend yourself in a situation where you are under attack
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Re: Self Defense

Postby Delaclava » Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:36 pm

In Delaclava, self defense is allowed. It's a tricky topic because there's not always a clear line on what's self-defense and what's assault, but normally the justice system gets it right.
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Re: Self Defense

Postby Fatatatutti » Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:26 pm

In Fatatatutti, self-defense would not be an excuse for hurting somebody. We have a saying that it is better to "turn the other cheek".

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Postby Bergnovinaia » Sun Jul 26, 2009 5:55 pm

Fatatatutti wrote:In Fatatatutti, self-defense would not be an excuse for hurting somebody. We have a saying that it is better to "turn the other cheek".
I have to agree that if possible you should turn the other cheek. However, if someone threatens your life you have the right in my country to defend yourself.
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Re: Self Defense

Postby Mexar » Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:44 pm

Sadly, the Mexar police have trouble keeping up with the crime. Self-defense is not only allowed but expected.

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Postby Unilisia » Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:49 pm

We have not had crime since the regime change that brought me into power. However, self defense is allowed, and so are melee weapons (guns are not allowed out of the house)
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Postby L3 Communications » Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:06 pm

Self-defence is allowed, expected and encouraged. While ownership of automatic and semi-automatic rifles is entirely illegal (and usually punishable by street execution), the ownership of pistols and small-calibre bolt-action rifles is completely legal.
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Re: Self Defense

Postby Maraque » Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:30 pm

Self-defense against a target that is threatening your life is legal. Killing an intruder on your property with intent to cause you physical harm is also legal.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Jul 26, 2009 8:48 pm

We Moralites are confused that you treat this as an issue, even. If a man has his life threatened, he has every right to pull out his/her gun and blow the fucker down. Not the obligation, but the right.
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Re: Self Defense

Postby Liberty Coalition » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:24 am

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Postby Goias » Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:24 am

Self-defense is allowed in Goias, but given the massive police presence in the country, it's usually easier to just run for a bit 'til you bump into an officer.
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Postby Ostronopolis » Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:37 am

Conserative Morality wrote:We Moralites are confused that you treat this as an issue, even. If a man has his life threatened, he has every right to pull out his/her gun and blow the fucker down. Not the obligation, but the right.


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Postby The Valepian Lands » Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:44 am

Self defence is allowed but killing is not recommended and it usually can be a hard situation to sort out. Recommended: A swift kick the balls.
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Re: Self Defense

Postby KiloMikeAlpha » Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:46 am

In KiloMikeAlpha, all law abiding citizens have the right to a concealed handgun. All citizens have a mandatory military service obligation, where they learn to use the gun as well as un-armed self defense techniques.

Wo be unto the criminal who attacks another in KMA. The right to defend yourself is an absolute right, and shall not be infringed.

Some may say, why does the person getting attacked get to determine if someone lives or dies? They don't, the attacker allready made that decision.
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Postby Fatatatutti » Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:49 am

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Some may say, why does the person getting attacked get to determine if someone lives or dies? They don't, the attacker allready made that decision.

The thing is that the "defender" is as likely to kill one of his own children as he is to kill the attacker. There's no escaping responsibility.

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Postby Kagetora » Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:57 am

Self defense is legal, but odds are, a police officer is in visual range of the assault and will step in and stop it.
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Re: Self Defense

Postby KiloMikeAlpha » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:05 am

Fatatatutti wrote:
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Some may say, why does the person getting attacked get to determine if someone lives or dies? They don't, the attacker allready made that decision.

The thing is that the "defender" is as likely to kill one of his own children as he is to kill the attacker. There's no escaping responsibility.


Not if they are properly trained. Thats like saying Cops are more likely to kill each other in a raid then the bad guy.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:08 am

Fatatatutti wrote:The thing is that the "defender" is as likely to kill one of his own children as he is to kill the attacker. There's no escaping responsibility.

Only if he's using some sort of explosive weapon inside a narrow hallway and/or his children are standing right in front of the attacker, and jumping up and down on a caffeine rush.
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Postby KiloMikeAlpha » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:11 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
Fatatatutti wrote:The thing is that the "defender" is as likely to kill one of his own children as he is to kill the attacker. There's no escaping responsibility.

Only if he's using some sort of explosive weapon inside a narrow hallway and/or his children are standing right in front of the attacker, and jumping up and down on a caffeine rush.


Heh or an Ar15 inside the building. Or 12GA shotgun slugs... Those things penetrate most walls. A lot of weapons people use for selfdefense can penetrate walls, inside ones at least. One missed shot could penetrate a wall and hit someone in another room.

That's why you train to not miss. And use weapons with HIGH knockdown, low penetration (like hollopoint .45)
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:15 am

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Heh or an Ar15 inside the building. Or 12GA shotgun slugs... Those things penetrate most walls. A lot of weapons people use for selfdefense can penetrate walls, inside ones at least. One missed shot could penetrate a wall and hit someone in another room.

That's why you train to not miss. And use weapons with HIGH knockdown, low penetration (like hollopoint .45)

I'm speaking of someone without horrible aim, shotgun, fully automatic weapon without single-shot capabilities, or having a Western style gunfight from twenty feet away.

That and CM has a noted lack of wooden walls.
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Re: Self Defense

Postby Freepaxia » Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:30 am

Feepaxia has a "Clear and Present Danger" law, the simple way to explain it is that if you feel a realistic danger to to you, your family, or your stuff you can shot, stab, or beat the aggressor, but you must have the weapon on you you can't go get it and track them down later

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Postby Fatatatutti » Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:16 am

Conserative Morality wrote:Only if he's using some sort of explosive weapon inside a narrow hallway and/or his children are standing right in front of the attacker, and jumping up and down on a caffeine rush.

Or if he doesn't see his kid standing behind the attacker. Or if his kid is sneaking in late at night. Or if he's a typical gun owner who doesn't know what he's doing.

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Re: Self Defense

Postby Seculartopia » Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:20 am

Self-Defense in Seculartopia is only legal in dire situations, and only legal if it is a defense taking the suspect's ability to fight back out, like stunning him or knocking him out. Killing is not allowed.
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Postby KiloMikeAlpha » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:12 am

Seculartopia wrote:Self-Defense in Seculartopia is only legal in dire situations, and only legal if it is a defense taking the suspect's ability to fight back out, like stunning him or knocking him out. Killing is not allowed.


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Re: Self Defense

Postby Tiesa » Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:38 am

With Tiesa's Crime Rate literally at 0% the Topic of Self Defence isn't really an issue, but in Tiesa it is justified for someone to strike another out of self defence.

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