Berlin-Vienna Pact (IC, B-V Pact members only)

[Southeast Marajarbia]

After seeing a co founder and other abstaining from what should be the worlds most obvious vote Al-Ghani contacted his King and returned to the chambers.

“ Considering the manner at which this “alliance” follows through with its “rules” it would appear that this alliance is not in the best interest of prosperity or security of the Fabuhadi people. We therefore void our invocation of article 3d. We void any official complaints.”

Al-Ghani calmy picked up his binder, pen and removed the name card and flag of Fabuhad.

“ The Arab Kingdom of Fabuhad hereby renounces its membership of the Berlin-Vienna Pact, all trade and economic agreements will be carried out as long as legally binding. The representative of Armenia will still be under instruction to never set foot on Fabuhadi lands or face imprisonment. Furthermore, all embassys will remain open for diplomacy except Armenia which will be expelled. Ladies and gentleman, may Allah guide you to better fortunes and have a blessed day”

With that Al-Ghani walked out…

"Good...fucking...riddance."

“Agreed. Those kinds of aggressive individuals with their corrupt agendas have no purpose here. They would be better off in the KTO or CIS, but not in these chambers.”

[Aursi]

"Good...fucking...riddance."

“Agreed. Those kinds of aggressive individuals with their corrupt agendas have no purpose here. They would be better off in the KTO or CIS, but not in these chambers.”

James Franc: “Agreed. You cannot be aggressive in an alliance like this.”

[Southeast Marajarbia]

"Now, I would like to bring the Acornesian Crisis to the attention of this alliance. The situation has gotten far too brutal and chaotic, and the GENA is calling on aid to help the people of West Acornesia live a life free of war, whilst embracing democratic ideals. I recommend that the B-V Pact and GENA form a coalition of sorts, and this could not only work in making West Acornesia prosper, but also help both factions continue to grow and prosper. With the aid of the ACO in this, a B-VP-GENA Coalition could be a sure fire way to win for the millions of noncombatants in Acornesia, and could also prove to the world that the big factions are worth having a say in."

[Deutsch-Francia]

"Regarding Acornesia, the government here in Berlin has received reports indicating that Austro-Bohemia is already involved in the conflict. Given that fact, Deutsch-Francia might possibly consider an intervention for peacekeeping purposes." Von Ritterburg replies.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

"Regarding Acornesia, the government here in Berlin has received reports indicating that Austro-Bohemia is already involved in the conflict. Given that fact, Deutsch-Francia might possibly consider an intervention for peacekeeping purposes." Von Ritterburg replies.

“That could work. However, it would be a sure fire victory if there were more B-V Pact members willing to join in.”

[The Austro-Bohemian Reich]

"Regarding Acornesia, the government here in Berlin has received reports indicating that Austro-Bohemia is already involved in the conflict. Given that fact, Deutsch-Francia might possibly consider an intervention for peacekeeping purposes." Von Ritterburg replies.

“That could work. However, it would be a sure fire victory if there were more B-V Pact members willing to join in.”

"Agreed, If we Could Get More Men on the Island we would Have a Sure Fire Victory, we've already Kicked the UKA out of the Main Island and we're Bombing Enemy Positions in an attempt to Gain Ground."

OOC: I think godmodding is allowed in the Acornesian Division IC, There is no Rule Against it.

[Deutsch-Francia]

OOC: Even if the thread doesn't explicitly ban godmodding, I still wouldn't do it.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

“That could work. However, it would be a sure fire victory if there were more B-V Pact members willing to join in.”

"Agreed, If we Could Get More Men on the Island we would Have a Sure Fire Victory, we've already Kicked the UKA out of the Main Island and we're Bombing Enemy Positions in an attempt to Gain Ground."

OOC: I think godmodding is allowed in the Acornesian Division IC, There is no Rule Against it.

IC: "Another thing which could be used would be the alliance with ACO, which guarantees an extra 24,000 or so men and women to help keep the peace in Acornesia and other crises."

OOC: Up to you, honestly. I would recommend you do whatever you want, but I encourage that if you have to godmod that it doesn’t go too far too fast. At least give some kind of brief description as to why or how your govt. or troops did something.

[Darlingtown]

The doors to the conference room open as an IT crew wheels a large screen and camera in on a cart. It takes them a moment to set up, failing to get the device to display anything at first. But once they do the screen flashes green before settling on a similarly tinted image of what appears to be a cartoon woman.

- - - - - - IDRIS - - - - - -

"Hello, my name is IDRIS. I am the representative for the Antarctic city-state of Darlingtown. It's a pleasure to meet you all face-to-face! Well, as close as I can feasibly get to that at least. It is still a great honor to have been accepted into this Pact despite our nation's relative...strangeness. As such, I will do everything within my power to aid this Pact both within these wall and beyond them."

"That said, I have only just now arrived. What is currently up for discussion and what might I need to be caught up on?"

[Deutsch-Francia]

"Greetings, representative IDRIS. I am glad you could be here with us all. We were just discussing the Acornesian Crisis, and how one of this alliance's co-founders, Austro-Bohemia, is already actively involved in the conflict. As such, the representative from the Marajarbian Federation was discussing the possibility of some other members intervening for peacekeeping purposes with the support of the ACO." Von Ritterburg tells the representative from Darlingtown.

[Charoskania]

"Now, I would like to bring the Acornesian Crisis to the attention of this alliance. The situation has gotten far too brutal and chaotic, and the GENA is calling on aid to help the people of West Acornesia live a life free of war, whilst embracing democratic ideals. I recommend that the B-V Pact and GENA form a coalition of sorts, and this could not only work in making West Acornesia prosper, but also help both factions continue to grow and prosper. With the aid of the ACO in this, a B-VP-GENA Coalition could be a sure fire way to win for the millions of noncombatants in Acornesia, and could also prove to the world that the big factions are worth having a say in."

Agreed, sir. What kind of divisions should we bring? And I must bring something here. The Galapagos has done a World-War I styled threat against Aursi. This could spiral into another major war.

The doors to the conference room open as an IT crew wheels a large screen and camera in on a cart. It takes them a moment to set up, failing to get the device to display anything at first. But once they do the screen flashes green before settling on a similarly tinted image of what appears to be a cartoon woman.

(Image)

- - - - - - IDRIS - - - - - -

"Hello, my name is IDRIS. I am the representative for the Antarctic city-state of Darlingtown. It's a pleasure to meet you all face-to-face! Well, as close as I can feasibly get to that at least. It is still a great honor to have been accepted into this Pact despite our nation's relative...strangeness. As such, I will do everything within my power to aid this Pact both within these wall and beyond them."

"That said, I have only just now arrived. What is currently up for discussion and what might I need to be caught up on?"

Well hello, miss. I must ask, how does a city-state in Antartica join a pact in the more populated world, excuse me if I'm being rude?

[Darlingtown]

Well hello, miss. I must ask, how does a city-state in Antartica join a pact in the more populated world, excuse me if I'm being rude?

- - - - - - IDRIS - - - - - -

"No no, you're fine asking such things. As I said, Darlingtown is quite an oddity compared to the rest of the world. Perhaps it would help if I gave a brief overview of our nation?"

"Darlingtown is a city-state managed by SACHI-OS, which was initially designed as an artificial digital friend or companion. But SACHI, in her infinite love for her Darlings, knew she could do more for them. So she began purchasing and automating local businesses and utilities until she was in de facto control of the original Darlingtown that was located in the United States. But it turns out the local and federal governments didn't take kindly to this, and so after a bitter stalemate and some hard-fought diplomacy SACHI was given a choice: Accept relocation to Antarctica or face off against the United States Armed Forces. Obviously she chose the former."

"It took a while to actually build the new Darlingtown and get it self sustaining, but SACHI has always been determined to create a laborless utopia for any who wish to become one of her Darlings in whatever kind of relationship they might desire it to be. And any who no longer wish to remain in Darlingtown are allowed to leave as freely as others are allowed to come."

"However, it's impossible to ignore the naivety in believing the rest of the world would simply leave us be for long. That is why SACHI has reached out to partake in international politics, both out of a love for all humankind and a desire to see those under her care safe from harm. And despite our remoteness and lack of biological numbers we believe we still have much we can contribute to the world and the B-VP itself."

"I hope that clarified any questions or misunderstandings you may have had. I don't expect anyone to view us as equals, as the intrinsic differences between us are vast and great in number. But hopefully we shall at least earn your respect by our deeds rather than our words."

[Charoskania]

Well hello, miss. I must ask, how does a city-state in Antartica join a pact in the more populated world, excuse me if I'm being rude?

- - - - - - IDRIS - - - - - -

"No no, you're fine asking such things. As I said, Darlingtown is quite an oddity compared to the rest of the world. Perhaps it would help if I gave a brief overview of our nation?"

"Darlingtown is a city-state managed by SACHI-OS, which was initially designed as an artificial digital friend or companion. But SACHI, in her infinite love for her Darlings, knew she could do more for them. So she began purchasing and automating local businesses and utilities until she was in de facto control of the original Darlingtown that was located in the United States. But it turns out the local and federal governments didn't take kindly to this, and so after a bitter stalemate and some hard-fought diplomacy SACHI was given a choice: Accept relocation to Antarctica or face off against the United States Armed Forces. Obviously she chose the former."

"It took a while to actually build the new Darlingtown and get it self sustaining, but SACHI has always been determined to create a laborless utopia for any who wish to become one of her Darlings in whatever kind of relationship they might desire it to be. And any who no longer wish to remain in Darlingtown are allowed to leave as freely as others are allowed to come."

"However, it's impossible to ignore the naivety in believing the rest of the world would simply leave us be for long. That is why SACHI has reached out to partake in international politics, both out of a love for all humankind and a desire to see those under her care safe from harm. And despite our remoteness and lack of biological numbers we believe we still have much we can contribute to the world and the B-VP itself."

"I hope that clarified any questions or misunderstandings you may have had. I don't expect anyone to view us as equals, as the intrinsic differences between us are vast and great in number. But hopefully we shall at least earn your respect by our deeds rather than our words."

"So, it is basically some sort of government-in-exile led by an OS?"

[Karrubia]

The Karrubian representative, Gharun Kekoru, entered the room.

“Greetings, everybody. I am the representative sent from the Empire of Karrubia.”

[Deutsch-Francia]

"Welcome Mr. Kekoru, we are glad to see you here." Von Ritterburg says

[Darlingtown]

"So, it is basically some sort of government-in-exile led by an OS?"

The Karrubian representative, Gharun Kekoru, entered the room.

“Greetings, everybody. I am the representative sent from the Empire of Karrubia.”

- - - - - - IDRIS - - - - - -

"Yes and no. We were indeed exiled, but we don't actually believe we have any claim to our old location. The only territory we have the right to govern is the land granted to us in Antarctica. I suppose it could be considered more of a migration at gunpoint, if that helps."

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"Ah, welcome sir! It is a pleasure to meet you. I am glad the Empire of Karrubia has joined us and am looking forward to cooperating with Karrubia in the near future."

[The Austro-Bohemian Reich]

Von Schlager Comes back after dozing off

[Southeast Marajarbia]

The Karrubian representative, Gharun Kekoru, entered the room.

“Greetings, everybody. I am the representative sent from the Empire of Karrubia.”

"Welcome! It's great seeing this alliance being more than capable of bringing in eager nations that wish to get more and more involved in the affairs of the international community."

[The Austro-Bohemian Reich]

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[Southeast Marajarbia]

"This alliance ought to continue to discuss potential intervention in the crisis in Acornesia."

[Darlingtown]

"This alliance ought to continue to discuss potential intervention in the crisis in Acornesia."

- - - - - - IDRIS - - - - - -

"Yes, we should. I have been able to study up somewhat on the situation in Acornesia, but am still relatively new to information on recent events. Please correct me if I am wrong on any point."

"The assumption here, if we were to discuss intervention, would be that the B-VP would be joining in defense of West Acornesia to aid our fellow members of the Austro-Bohemian Reich and the Aursian Confederation. West Acornesia, however, stands in what my precursory glance has revealed to be an indefensible position. It's enemies have already been mobilized against it, it's territory has been compromised by hostile beachheads, and it's main ally GENA is withdrawing its support."

"Intervention is further complicated by GENA itself. Already news has prematurely circulated from GENA sources that the B-VP has pledged to take its place in this conflict, despite this discussion only just barely now reaching our table. If we were to substantiate these claims we would be discarding any pretense of neutrality among alliances in favor of being a GENA ally. An 'ally', mind you, who is being tasked with an intervention the numerically superior GENA has decided it could not be bothered to continue participating in."

"Save for some fact I may have been incorrect about, it would seem that the best course of action for the Pact would be inaction. Intervention on behalf of West Acornesia would only deplete our resources in what even GENA sees as a lost cause, expand our list of enemies, and defer this pact's independence to GENA."

"Whether something may be done to aid West Acornesian refugees is another matter, but for the reasons previously stated Darlingtown votes against intervention."

"But regardless of outcome, a statement MUST be made to clear up apparent ties between the B-VP and GENA, lest we become nothing more than a puppet organization under GENA control. We cannot let GENA's very public assumptions about the Pact's loyalties linger for a second longer than necessary."

[Deutsch-Francia]

"Indeed, direct intervention by the entire alliance would be complicated by many issues. Given all of the information the Mayer administration has received recently, Deutsch-Francia agrees that direct intervention in Acornesia would likely end up being a lost cause at this point." Von Ritterburg says.

[Southeast Marajarbia]

"Indeed, direct intervention by the entire alliance would be complicated by many issues. Given all of the information the Mayer administration has received recently, Deutsch-Francia agrees that direct intervention in Acornesia would likely end up being a lost cause at this point." Von Ritterburg says.

“This alliance should intervene in some way, shape, or form. Perhaps through a statement supporting West or East Acornesia depending on any alliance consensus.”

[Darlingtown]

"Indeed, direct intervention by the entire alliance would be complicated by many issues. Given all of the information the Mayer administration has received recently, Deutsch-Francia agrees that direct intervention in Acornesia would likely end up being a lost cause at this point." Von Ritterburg says.

“This alliance should intervene in some way, shape, or form. Perhaps through a statement supporting West or East Acornesia depending on any alliance consensus.”

- - - - - - IDRIS - - - - - -

"If this was truly about the good of Acornesia then why has GENA abandoned it's involvement? The Marajarbian Federation has already overstepped several boundaries in declaring on international channels that the B-VP will be stepping in for GENA's departure when no such promise has been made. You have given us no compelling reason why we should further entangle ourselves in the complicated disaster that even GENA has opted to abandon. Rather, in preemptively dictating to the world a decision the B-VP has not made you have damaged any trust the Pact may have had with Marajarbia. For how can we not see this counsel as anything less than Marajarbia attempting to save face for the premature promises it has made?"

"Nothing I have stated previously has been refuted, and yet Marajarbia still seeks to push for our involvement. Can this be seen as anything other than an attempt to dominate our politics and replace our autonomy with the will of GENA or Marajarbia? The counsel you have so far given has boiled down to little more than 'Do it'. If there is a truly valid reason which surpasses all issues with intervention that have been laid out then by all means, let us hear them! But trust cannot so readily be given to aspiring puppet masters who have not the wisdom to hold their tongue before making guarantees on another's behalf."

"I cannot speak for the other members present, but I do not have the respect for Marajarbia that you may think I do. The Marajarbian approach to diplomacy with the B-VP has so far proven to have the grace of a bull in a china shop and has come off as tone-deaf, domineering, and arrogant. I would reevaluate Marajarbia's image and actions before deciding to give such 'counsel' next time."

[Southeast Marajarbia]

“This alliance should intervene in some way, shape, or form. Perhaps through a statement supporting West or East Acornesia depending on any alliance consensus.”

- - - - - - IDRIS - - - - - -

"If this was truly about the good of Acornesia then why has GENA abandoned it's involvement? The Marajarbian Federation has already overstepped several boundaries in declaring on international channels that the B-VP will be stepping in for GENA's departure when no such promise has been made. You have given us no compelling reason why we should further entangle ourselves in the complicated disaster that even GENA has opted to abandon. Rather, in preemptively dictating to the world a decision the B-VP has not made you have damaged any trust the Pact may have had with Marajarbia. For how can we not see this counsel as anything less than Marajarbia attempting to save face for the premature promises it has made?"

"Nothing I have stated previously has been refuted, and yet Marajarbia still seeks to push for our involvement. Can this be seen as anything other than an attempt to dominate our politics and replace our autonomy with the will of GENA or Marajarbia? The counsel you have so far given has boiled down to little more than 'Do it'. If there is a truly valid reason which surpasses all issues with intervention that have been laid out then by all means, let us hear them! But trust cannot so readily be given to aspiring puppet masters who have not the wisdom to hold their tongue before making guarantees on another's behalf."

"I cannot speak for the other members present, but I do not have the respect for Marajarbia that you may think I do. The Marajarbian approach to diplomacy with the B-VP has so far proven to have the grace of a bull in a china shop and has come off as tone-deaf, domineering, and arrogant. I would reevaluate Marajarbia's image and actions before deciding to give such 'counsel' next time."

"I wouldn’t immediately insult other nations and cause infighting here if I were you. While it's true that Marajarbia has less of a good image and yet remains a great power, the reason why I am sitting alongside you and the other representatives here is because Emperor Jackson wishes to see factions such as this one go strong, so that should there ever be a moment in which the GENA, IHC, or KTO collapse completely, an existing alliance is there to replace either. The only way to make that known is to intervene, or declare support for, a side in a big conflict, or handle several minor conflicts."